Need to get Stauber some starts in the AHL before, to decide if Stauber's a future back up, and if so, get him re-signed 1st.
Official 2024-25 Utah HC Season Discussion.
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Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
That's funny. I predicted that you'd say something very similar to this before I even posted the link. I guess we both get to split time being Captain Obvious.
Still waiting for you to share something that supports any of your arguments - that the rebuild should be going faster and also what set standard you're using when you say BA needs to be held accountable. What and who are you comparing to come to your conclusions? Some examples of it being done better or something.
Don't just keep telling us, show us! Otherwise you'll keep on sounding like Charlie Brown's teacher.
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That's funny. I predicted that you'd say something very similar to this before I even posted the link. I guess we both get to split time being Captain Obvious.
Still waiting for you to share something that supports any of your arguments - that the rebuild should be going faster and also what set standard you're using when you say BA needs to be held accountable. What and who are you comparing to come to your conclusions? Some examples of it being done better or something.
Don't just keep telling us, show us! Otherwise you'll keep on sounding like Charlie Brown's teacher.
Listen to the podcast, outside of vets helping young guys and 1 point in or out of the playoffs, My advance take was spot on! I loved the TDL comment, "its up to the players", so if they play well he gets help, if not trade away.....
I hope we are 1 point in or out, we only need to be a top 8 club to do that rest of the way, Go BA
Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
Listen to the podcast, outside of vets helping young guys and 1 point in or out of the playoffs, My advance take was spot on! I loved the TDL comment, "its up to the players", so if they play well he gets help, if not trade away.....
I hope we are 1 point in or out, we only need to be a top 8 club to do that rest of the way, Go BA
Don't make me post Charlie Brown's Teacher Speaking again!
And how do you know that BA is not working the phones to gauge trade posibilities - including with Buffalo?
Maybe the asking prices are too high, maybe it's like the Sergachev Situation where interesting players just aren't available and BA can't do anything more than sewing seeds for future trades right now?
Armchair GMing is easy...
Time to judge, criticise or give out compliments are at years end, not every five game span. The NHL season is long, it's a marathon not a sprint.
12th longest tenured GM and 5th longest tenured coach, year 5 of no playoffs unless we start killing it quickly, seems normal to meDon't make me post Charlie Brown's Teacher Speaking again!
Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
12th longest tenured GM and 5th longest tenured coach, year 5 of no playoffs unless we start killing it quickly, seems normal to me
Well, 5.5 years is the average lifespan of a GM in the NHL.
I can't see another GM coming in and doing anything differently than I expect BA to do over the next two seasons. We've got a prospect pipeline like we've never had before and an absolute arsenal of trade capital (also like we've never had before.) I think he'd just end up getting credit for all the things BA has set in motion.
Playoffs right now or not, this team has never been in such good shape. Any GM would have a wet dream over finishing what BA has started, so I'd rather just give him more time to see it through himself.
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If GMBA's rebuild a bust, then UtHC should start trading away their recent top picks? 21 yo Dylan Guenther, consider GMBA's 1st pick in which he had to trade for? Logan Cooley, the actual awarded franchise 1st? Rebuilding through the draft and evaluating before your 1st top draft picks aren't out of their ELCs yet and their other recent top draft prospects that are not currently under contract.
I rather see how Tij, Dan, Dmitri, as well as others, progress in the NHL before evaluating GMBA! (Looking forward to a Simashev/Lamoureux 3rd pairing).Will those 3 make Utah contenders? What needs to be added to next season's roster to make them contenders? Ironically I would say filling in Geekie's and Moser's hypothetical spots. Another question is who needs to be replaced (currently 6 UFAs)?
I rather see how Tij, Dan, Dmitri, as well as others, progress in the NHL before evaluating GMBA! (Looking forward to a Simashev/Lamoureux 3rd pairing).Will those 3 make Utah contenders? What needs to be added to next season's roster to make them contenders? Ironically I would say filling in Geekie's and Moser's hypothetical spots. Another question is who needs to be replaced (currently 6 UFAs)?
Half Clapper
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The team is improving year over year. I don't know what some of you guys expect? This team is exactly where most people predicted them to be at this point.
You are right when you say this team has never been in such good shape, that we are use to at least. Coyote fans have been beaten down so hard over the years we really didn't have much to cheer for over the years and had gotten use to bad management, ownership, players etc. We have gone this far with BA and most things seem to be going in the right direction, and BA like Bear, and I think ownership likes both. I believe BA has earned the trust from most, so I think it would be wise to let the season play out and then judge.
For me, this team is a bit behind where I expected them to be in the rebuild, but there are many reasons why I could be wrong.
I'm really interested how this team ends up this year and what happens in the offseason. Failure to produce is getting less acceptable every year. IF BA says one time next year that he doesn't expect his team to be a playoff team will drive me to the loony bin.Last year the Yote's had 77 pts., this year as of today, we are on track for 84 pts. Would most be happy with that?
Coyotedroppings
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Here I thought you were already CEO of the loony bin!For me, this team is a bit behind where I expected them to be in the rebuild, but there are many reasons why I could be wrong.
Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
I would, knowing that we've lost somewhere around 12 games by just one point.
How many more of those close games would we have won if we didn't have so many injuries to our D group? I'd bet about half of them. Would another 12 points be realistic with Durzi and Marino? I think so!
Could've projected to be a 95point season with them in the lineup. The team should be quite a bit better next season just from getting them back.
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A new GM would make changes, they all do, and he wouldn't wait a year to do it. I do agree that a new GM would love this position because he is starting with a low 80 point team with young players coming. The bar is low. Lets see where we finish this year and then see what the ownership group has in mind. Its not a given that BA or Bear will both be with us at the start of next season. I think it is 70/30 they stay if I had to guess today.
That is a 10% improvement, so not bad at all. But in the context of a 5th year in a GMs rebuild, and 4th year with same coach, and missing playoffs by 14 points, no, I don't think most would be happy with that.
All teams lose games by a goal, and believe it or not, they have injuries too.
Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
This is the final stage of the rebuild. Any GM that takes over this team would do exactly what I think BA will do over the next two off seasons - Figure out what they have, what they weren't able to get through the draft, and go shopping with all those assets to build the best roster they can.
A new GM isn't going to do anything different because that's what the logical next step is.
Just for fun, I think both will be back next season.
Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
This team is better with both Marino and Durzi on it and we would have fewer one goal losses and more points.
It is not common for a team to lose both their number 2 and 3 d-men for most of the season, believe it or not. Young teams are going to be affected more by injury than a contender is.
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Its not a fact, we haven't seen them play on this team together, I do "think" the team will be better with them but neither is a defensive stopper we really need.
Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
Just saying that the team as BA constructed it has more points this season and shows good growth if it weren't for injury IMO. Our injuries on D this season are excessive.
It is hoped that Simashev turns into that defensive stopper we really need. As soon as next season. I don't think Sim or But spend 1 second in the AHL.
I hope you are right, keep in mind it takes time for D to develop, its a way harder transition to the NHL, its much easier for wingers.
You could probably say that about a lot of teams. Winning is all that matters.
