Off-Season Roster Thread #2 -- Nothing to do but wait

[Jim Bob]

Quinn, 9th and 41st for Pasta?

That is a lot to give up for one year of Pastrnak.

 

[Dingo44]

Quinn, 9th and 41st for Pasta?

Definitely not. Pasta is amazing but I doubt he makes up for the production of both Quinn and 9th when we're in the championship window Boston is leaving.

 

[Jacob582]

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It won't happen. But, the vibes would be immaculate.

The goalies don't make the correct salary. Should be:

Anderson $750,000
Subban $750,000
MAF $7.50,000M (seeing if we can slide this past the owners)

I'd rather ride it out and not give him a QO.

There would be no reason to create future dead cap.

You're worried about a $300,000 cap hit in 2023-2024 for a Bjork buyout?

 

[brian_griffin]

Using LTIR to go over the cap floor (again) would be unacceptable. Spend real dollars to get to the floor. If you want to get paid by Tampa to take on the LTIR after that’s fine. But using it to circumvent the cap floor is giving a middle finger to the fans (again)

Conversely, spending real dollars to acquire dis-interested do-nothing mercenaries or "talents" a la Ville Leino and Taylor Hall is a double-middle-finger to the fans.

 

[Fjordsen]

I'd better target DeBrincat then, he's an RFA and he's 24 years old, would be a good fit for our core. Although I don't want to trade Quinn anyway.

 

[Jim Bob]

The goalies don't make the correct salary. Should be:

Anderson $750,000
Subban $750,000
MAF $7.50,000M (seeing if we can slide this past the owners)


You're worried about a $300,000 cap hit in 2023-2024 for a Bjork buyout?

You are worried about giving Anderson a bump above the minimum...

I just don't see the point of dragging things out with Bjork. Just waive him to Rochester if you want the roster spot.

 

[Zach716]

You are worried about giving Anderson a bump above the minimum...

I just don't see the point of dragging things out with Bjork. Just waive him to Rochester if you want the roster spot.

I think he was making a joke that if we made the goalies all have 750k Pegula wouldn't notice the extra 0 for Fleury

 

[Chainshot]

I'd better target DeBrincat then, he's an RFA and he's 24 years old, would be a good fit for our core. Although I don't want to trade Quinn anyway.

Then don't offer Quinn.

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

I don't have much faith in Adams being able to sign any of the better goalies in UFA. When was the last time the Sabres actually signed a UFA goalie that wasn't from the scrap heap or a career back-up?

 

[Chainshot]

I don't have much faith in Adams being able to sign any of the better goalies in UFA. When was the last time the Sabres actually signed a UFA goalie that wasn't from the scrap heap or a career back-up?

He never has so his first will be groundbreaking.

 

[Dingo44]

He never has so his first will be groundbreaking.

Has the team, though? Ever? All our good goalies were drafted or acquired via trade.

 

[Ace]

They haven’t often been in position to go after a top ufa goalie. Most of their history they had a quality starter…and a few years lately they haven’t even wanted to be good at the position. Last year they went super cheap which is the concern now…because you can sell me once on it being a development year and there was no value in paying for it. But not twice.

 

[boots electric]

I'm warming to the idea of making an offer for Puljujärvi. 24 years old, RFA, extremely snakebitten as a finisher but seems to do a great job of driving the play based on underlying numbers, and playing for a team that's gonna be in real cap trouble soon.

 

[TehDoak]

Has the team, though? Ever? All our good goalies were drafted or acquired via trade.

Going back to Fuhr you are correct.

Fuhr -> Trade
Hasek -> Trade
Biron -> Draft
Miller -> Draft
2015 -> Yikes
Lehner -> Draft
Ullmark -> Draft
Hutton and Anderson were both UFA signings, but you specified GOOD goalies.

 

[Jim Bob]

He never has so his first will be groundbreaking.

You say that like he’s been the Sabres GM for a decade.

 

[jc17]

I'm warming to the idea of making an offer for Puljujärvi. 24 years old, RFA, extremely snakebitten as a finisher but seems to do a great job of driving the play based on underlying numbers, and playing for a team that's gonna be in real cap trouble soon.

I do think there's always potential in those types of guys, but it does concern me that his even strength production was on par with Hinostroza's, while playing most of his minutes with McDavid, Draisaitl

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

I do think there's always potential in those types of guys, but it does concern me that his even strength production was on par with Hinostroza's, while playing most of his minutes with McDavid, Draisaitl

Career highs of 15G (covid-shortened season) and 36 points during 4 full seasons as a top-6 Oilers forward don't exactly scream "offer sheet" to me.

 

[Chainshot]

You say that like he’s been the Sabres GM for a decade.

It's not like it's a strength either.

 

[start winnin]

If we could get either 1 of Fleury or Letang, I would be ecstatic. Having just 1 signed from FA could expedite this rebuild so much.

 

[Fezzy126]

I'm warming to the idea of making an offer for Puljujärvi. 24 years old, RFA, extremely snakebitten as a finisher but seems to do a great job of driving the play based on underlying numbers, and playing for a team that's gonna be in real cap trouble soon.

There seems to be a Nichushkin comparison brewing online, I think this line of thought will grow exponentially this offseason

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

There seems to be a Nichushkin comparison brewing online, I think this line of thought will grow exponentially this offseason

It's interesting that he's so weak on the PP given how good Edmonton was this year. Though perhaps he wasn't out there with McDavid and Drai.

 

[Zman5778]

It's interesting that he's so weak on the PP given how good Edmonton was this year. Though perhaps he wasn't out there with McDavid and Drai.

Their main PP was McDrai/Hyman/Nuge/Dman (Bouchard or Nurse)

 

[WhereAreTheCookies]

Their main PP was McDrai/Hyman/Nuge/Dman (Bouchard or Nurse)

Makes sense then, he was stuck on PP2 with the sloppy seconds lol

 

[TehDoak]

Conversely, spending real dollars to acquire dis-interested do-nothing mercenaries or "talents" a la Ville Leino and Taylor Hall is a double-middle-finger to the fans.

I mean, personally I'd be happy if they simply spent above the cap floor this year in real dollars, not LTIR dollars. That would mean, at the very minimum, they weaponized the cap space we have to acquire assets, something they failed to do last year.

 

[jc17]

Conversely, spending real dollars to acquire dis-interested do-nothing mercenaries or "talents" a la Ville Leino and Taylor Hall is a double-middle-finger to the fans.

Those ended up being awful, but I think its a little unfair to call that type of move a middle finger to fans. They were misguided honest attempts to improve