Boston Bruins Off Season Roster/ Cap Discussion II

[KillerMillerTime]

What do you guys think? I used contract projections from AFP analytics. $334,000 left over cap space. Be gentle!!

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Thought Boston was retaining like 600K on Carlo?

 

[CellyHard]

I'd like to sign one of Fabbro or Jokiharju (I'm good either way) and also sign Perbix (if he is affordable) to also push Peeke as I think they need 4 right-shot D with basically nothing in the system coming up on that side.

My other move would be to sign Josh Mahura instead of Wotherspoon on the left side.

Lindholm - McAvoy

Zadorov - Fabbro OR Jokiharju

Lohrei - Peeke/Perbix

Mahura - Peeke/Perbix.

Honestly I think that is as much as Bruins can hope for when it comes to the D this off-season. Terrible UFA class for D-men.

Perbix is probably getting a multi year deal between 2-3 million. I don’t see why he would want to come here as a #7.

Don’t you think that’s a lot of money tied up between him, Lohrei and Peeke for your bottom pair?

 

[BruinDust]

Perbix is probably getting a multi year deal between 2-3 million. I don’t see why he would want to come here as a #7.

Don’t you think that’s a lot of money tied up between him, Lohrei and Peeke for your bottom pair?

Perbix is basically a No. 6-7 now in Tampa. I'm not sure why he'd get 2-3 million other than lack of options in free agency. Certainly he likely could find a better opportunity elsewhere.

I don't have an issue with the money they will have allocated for the 3rd pair next year after they bridge Lohrei where it's a transition year basically and Peeke is off the books next summer. Ownership can talk all they want about making the playoffs next year, but reality is next year is a transition year and the entire thing is a big work in progress.

I don't even expect them to spend to the cap as the opportunity to do so just won't be there. They aren't going out and signing 3 or 4 big name free agent forwards. Lots of competition and minimal supply it's just not realistic IMO.

I expect one solid forward to be pursued (like a Boeser or Ehlers) and maybe a Marchand return.

 

[Coach Parker]

Okay, this was a weird one that Canucks season ticket holders shared that I think could be relatable to the Bruins situation. Posted on the coach search to discuss the Tocchett rationale BUT wanted to have people chime in on the Pettersson talk on this thread:

1. Tocchett wanted Pettersson traded.
2. Alvin offered the 11.6 to Pettersson and then also recieved an offer for Pettersson from the Hurricanes.
3. The trade was for Necas, Kotkaniemi, Morrow and a 1st for Pettersson.
4. Management told Pettersson to sign the contract extension or he was traded.
5. Canucks OWNERSHIP stepped in and nixed the trade.
6. Pettersson was pissed but told by his agent to sign it and then he could be traded to wherever he wanted once his NTC kicks in and he has his guaranteed money.
7. Pettersson's play drops, divide in room continues and the rest falls apart.

Where the Bruins come in:
8. Bruins explore trade for Pettersson.
9. Bruins end up finding out Lindholm is done for the year and McAvoy is injured for the year. Season is done and no point in trading for help now.
10. Canucks give Petterson until the end of this past season to improve.
11. Canucks and Bruins both agree to revisit the trade when the season is over and the Bruins pick is solidified.
12. Tocchett becomes available as a head coach.
13. Both Boston and Tocchett know there is a real possibility that Pettersson would end up in Boston so Tocchett makes zero sense to explore for him or the Bruins.
14. 5th overall falls to 7th overall now putting that trade chip in play as Hagens, Misa, and the other top C prospect are now likely off the table.
15. Bruins and Canucks resume the January trade talks around Pettersson with the idea that the 7th overall will not be a Bruins ready prospect for a couple years while Pettersson is ready to step in now.

Again, the trade news and the ownership nixing it came up last night AFTER the draft lottery and that Tocchett wanted him gone so if there is any truth around the Canucks and Bruins talking Pettersson, Tocchett 100% will not be an option the Bruins are interested in.

 

[wintersej]

Okay, this was a weird one that Canucks season ticket holders shared that I think could be relatable to the Bruins situation. Posted on the coach search to discuss the Tocchett rationale BUT wanted to have people chime in on the Pettersson talk on this thread:

1. Tocchett wanted Pettersson traded.
2. Alvin offered the 11.6 to Pettersson and then also recieved an offer for Pettersson from the Hurricanes.
3. The trade was for Necas, Kotkaniemi, Morrow and a 1st for Pettersson.
4. Management told Pettersson to sign the contract extension or he was traded.
5. Canucks OWNERSHIP stepped in and nixed the trade.
6. Pettersson was pissed but told by his agent to sign it and then he could be traded to wherever he wanted once his NTC kicks in and he has his guaranteed money.
7. Pettersson's play drops, divide in room continues and the rest falls apart.

Where the Bruins come in:
8. Bruins explore trade for Pettersson.
9. Bruins end up finding out Lindholm is done for the year and McAvoy is injured for the year. Season is done and no point in trading for help now.
10. Canucks give Petterson until the end of this past season to improve.
11. Canucks and Bruins both agree to revisit the trade when the season is over and the Bruins pick is solidified.
12. Tocchett becomes available as a head coach.
13. Both Boston and Tocchett know there is a real possibility that Pettersson would end up in Boston so Tocchett makes zero sense to explore for him or the Bruins.
14. 5th overall falls to 7th overall now putting that trade chip in play as Hagens, Misa, and the other top C prospect are now likely off the table.
15. Bruins and Canucks resume the January trade talks around Pettersson with the idea that the 7th overall will not be a Bruins ready prospect for a couple years while Pettersson is ready to step in now.

Again, the trade news and the ownership nixing it came up last night AFTER the draft lottery and that Tocchett wanted him gone so if there is any truth around the Canucks and Bruins talking Pettersson, Tocchett 100% will not be an option the Bruins are interested in.

I would package the pick for EP. Just no idea what the offer would be. 2025 1st + TOR 1st + Middelstadt + Poitras?

 

[Coach Parker]

I would package the pick for EP. Just no idea what the offer would be. 2025 1st + TOR 1st + Middelstadt + Poitras?

Again, I couldn't begin to get as to what the offer was (assume it's much less than what Carolina offered as he has dropped in play significantly since then, but it certainly connects a lot of dots that were there in January, at the deadline, then suddenly today.

I was just reading over Sweeney's comments as well from the post-lottery around trading the pick.

 

[Absurdity]

Okay, this was a weird one that Canucks season ticket holders shared that I think could be relatable to the Bruins situation. Posted on the coach search to discuss the Tocchett rationale BUT wanted to have people chime in on the Pettersson talk on this thread:

1. Tocchett wanted Pettersson traded.
2. Alvin offered the 11.6 to Pettersson and then also recieved an offer for Pettersson from the Hurricanes.
3. The trade was for Necas, Kotkaniemi, Morrow and a 1st for Pettersson.
4. Management told Pettersson to sign the contract extension or he was traded.
5. Canucks OWNERSHIP stepped in and nixed the trade.
6. Pettersson was pissed but told by his agent to sign it and then he could be traded to wherever he wanted once his NTC kicks in and he has his guaranteed money.
7. Pettersson's play drops, divide in room continues and the rest falls apart.

Where the Bruins come in:
8. Bruins explore trade for Pettersson.
9. Bruins end up finding out Lindholm is done for the year and McAvoy is injured for the year. Season is done and no point in trading for help now.
10. Canucks give Petterson until the end of this past season to improve.
11. Canucks and Bruins both agree to revisit the trade when the season is over and the Bruins pick is solidified.
12. Tocchett becomes available as a head coach.
13. Both Boston and Tocchett know there is a real possibility that Pettersson would end up in Boston so Tocchett makes zero sense to explore for him or the Bruins.
14. 5th overall falls to 7th overall now putting that trade chip in play as Hagens, Misa, and the other top C prospect are now likely off the table.
15. Bruins and Canucks resume the January trade talks around Pettersson with the idea that the 7th overall will not be a Bruins ready prospect for a couple years while Pettersson is ready to step in now.

Again, the trade news and the ownership nixing it came up last night AFTER the draft lottery and that Tocchett wanted him gone so if there is any truth around the Canucks and Bruins talking Pettersson, Tocchett 100% will not be an option the Bruins are interested in.

Interesting stuff. I wonder how Sweeney feels about this after Lindholm's performance with Geekie and Pastrnak at the end of the season. While the Bruins need a younger #1C, do they dedicate $11.6M of cap space to a center that has shown they can perform at a high level but has been struggling? Or do they look at upgrading at wing? If San Jose really wants to draft Eklunds' brother, I wonder if Sweeney can potentially try and move up at #2 to draft a center.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Again, I couldn't begin to get as to what the offer was (assume it's much less than what Carolina offered as he has dropped in play significantly since then, but it certainly connects a lot of dots that were there in January, at the deadline, then suddenly today.

I was just reading over Sweeney's comments as well from the post-lottery around trading the pick.

I’m not a big Pettersson fan but he’s a proven scorer. I’d ask that Vancouver takes back Mittlestadt in any deal.

 

[Coach Parker]

I’m not a big Pettersson fan but he’s a proven scorer. I’d ask that Vancouver takes back Mittlestadt in any deal.

I like that line of thinking of moving Mittelstadt or Zacha in the trade to give them a top 6 C and some cap going the other way.

 

[Patdud]

I would package the pick for EP. Just no idea what the offer would be. 2025 1st + TOR 1st + Middelstadt + Poitras?

I’m sure Van would want Zacha over Middlestadt. Might make more sense depending what else the Bs plan.

 

[Fenian24]

Ok. Upgraded Perbix to Fabbro, rescinded Cuylle trade (even though I really like him), traded away Korpisalo, signed Reimer cheap. Signed Victor Olofsson instead. Still not in love with Mantha but he's my bargain bin top 6 guy. Would be nice if Poitras and Lysell could make the jump next year. $385,000 in cap space.

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I love Cuylle and would love him here, just can't see Rangers letting him go. Also I know he will get 3M or more but Lohrei is not worth it, power play only Dman who is horrible in his own end and doesn't use his size.

 

[Patdud]

Interesting stuff. I wonder how Sweeney feels about this after Lindholm's performance with Geekie and Pastrnak at the end of the season. While the Bruins need a younger #1C, do they dedicate $11.6M of cap space to a center that has shown they can perform at a high level but has been struggling? Or do they look at upgrading at wing? If San Jose really wants to draft Eklunds' brother, I wonder if Sweeney can potentially try and move up at #2 to draft a center.

Would SJS take the pick for Will Smith knowing they may very well end up with Misa.?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Okay, this was a weird one that Canucks season ticket holders shared that I think could be relatable to the Bruins situation. Posted on the coach search to discuss the Tocchett rationale BUT wanted to have people chime in on the Pettersson talk on this thread:

1. Tocchett wanted Pettersson traded.
2. Alvin offered the 11.6 to Pettersson and then also recieved an offer for Pettersson from the Hurricanes.
3. The trade was for Necas, Kotkaniemi, Morrow and a 1st for Pettersson.
4. Management told Pettersson to sign the contract extension or he was traded.
5. Canucks OWNERSHIP stepped in and nixed the trade.
6. Pettersson was pissed but told by his agent to sign it and then he could be traded to wherever he wanted once his NTC kicks in and he has his guaranteed money.
7. Pettersson's play drops, divide in room continues and the rest falls apart.

Where the Bruins come in:
8. Bruins explore trade for Pettersson.
9. Bruins end up finding out Lindholm is done for the year and McAvoy is injured for the year. Season is done and no point in trading for help now.
10. Canucks give Petterson until the end of this past season to improve.
11. Canucks and Bruins both agree to revisit the trade when the season is over and the Bruins pick is solidified.
12. Tocchett becomes available as a head coach.
13. Both Boston and Tocchett know there is a real possibility that Pettersson would end up in Boston so Tocchett makes zero sense to explore for him or the Bruins.
14. 5th overall falls to 7th overall now putting that trade chip in play as Hagens, Misa, and the other top C prospect are now likely off the table.
15. Bruins and Canucks resume the January trade talks around Pettersson with the idea that the 7th overall will not be a Bruins ready prospect for a couple years while Pettersson is ready to step in now.

Again, the trade news and the ownership nixing it came up last night AFTER the draft lottery and that Tocchett wanted him gone so if there is any truth around the Canucks and Bruins talking Pettersson, Tocchett 100% will not be an option the Bruins are interested in.

This is very interesting.

Here’s the thing. Free agent market this year STINKS. So if we’re looking to seriously upgrade the top six, I think it’s going to have to come via trade.

Pettersson’s act this year doesn’t impress me, but his larger body of work is genuinely great. And he’s only 26. I think he’s almost everything you want in a 1C. Any time you can package pieces to go get a player of that caliber, I think you have to do it.

 

[Coach Parker]

Interesting stuff. I wonder how Sweeney feels about this after Lindholm's performance with Geekie and Pastrnak at the end of the season. While the Bruins need a younger #1C, do they dedicate $11.6M of cap space to a center that has shown they can perform at a high level but has been struggling? Or do they look at upgrading at wing? If San Jose really wants to draft Eklunds' brother, I wonder if Sweeney can potentially try and move up at #2 to draft a center.

Great line of thinking there. Didn't think of the SJ angle.

For me, Pettersson is this years' buy-low top line C that other teams seem to get so often. Look at Dallas' depth, Florida's and how those guys were acquired. Seguin, Duchene, Granlund, Tkachuk, Bennett, Marchand, Reinhart all traded for when their stock was low.

If Boston can turn the Zacha/Mittelstadt money + into Pettersson and have him locked in with Geekie and Pastrnak for the next 8 years while also pushing Lindholm down to the 2nd line, you suddenly have depth in the middle with an option of adding a 3rd line C via UFA to really round out this roster.

Sure, it'll cost but for the first time, the Bruins may have pieces that can make that happen.

 

[Coach Parker]

This is very interesting.

Here’s the thing. Free agent market this year STINKS. So if we’re looking to seriously upgrade the top six, I think it’s going to have to come via trade.

Pettersson’s act this year doesn’t impress me, but his larger body of work is genuinely great. And he’s only 26. I think he’s almost everything you want in a 1C. Any time you can package pieces to go get a player of that caliber, I think you have to do it.

100% agree.

The way it all went down and his injury suggests that this is a guy who would love the opportunity to prove everyone wrong while riding shotgun with Pastrnak.

The Canucks HAVE to move him IF they are going to move him befor July 1st. If not, his NMC kicks in and they are now only dealing him to where he wants to go on his terms.

 

[Coach Parker]

I’m sure Van would want Zacha over Middlestadt. Might make more sense depending what else the Bs plan.

And I would make that move. I have never liked playoff Zacha.

 

[CDJ]

I’ve 100% convinced myself we are trading the pick for EP

 

[dredeye]

Great line of thinking there. Didn't think of the SJ angle.

For me, Pettersson is this years' buy-low top line C that other teams seem to get so often. Look at Dallas' depth, Florida's and how those guys were acquired. Seguin, Duchene, Granlund, Tkachuk, Bennett, Marchand, Reinhart all traded for when their stock was low.

If Boston can turn the Zacha/Mittelstadt money + into Pettersson and have him locked in with Geekie and Pastrnak for the next 8 years while also pushing Lindholm down to the 2nd line, you suddenly have depth in the middle with an option of adding a 3rd line C via UFA to really round out this roster.

Sure, it'll cost but for the first time, the Bruins may have pieces that can make that happen.

Wouldn't the remaining Zacha/Mittlestadt be the 3rd line center?

 

[Absurdity]

Would SJS take the pick for Will Smith knowing they may very well end up with Misa.?

I was thinking Lohrei + #7 for Misa as a base if he's available at #2. San Jose could use a defenseman so it really depends who the Islanders draft at #1.

Unrelated to the draft, I think the Bruins should poke around Dallas to see what it would take to trade for Marchment.

 

[goldenblack]

Say it was YOU as GM.

Do you try to ice a 2025-2026 squad where you spend a bunch in free agency and try to fight for 11th to 8th (WC2)?

Or do you lead one more development year?

If it's ME, I do one more development year. I understand the risk to ticket sales. But I think the Mckenna equity plus all the ice time for the kids is just too important. So yeah you burn 1 year of Pasta's career. But intuitively I think it's correct.

Peeke would be a UFA contract to deal at that 2026 deadline. Probably Korpi too. Then I think you throw some serious money around in 2026 free agency (the Eichel year).

 

[Coach Parker]

This is very interesting.

Here’s the thing. Free agent market this year STINKS. So if we’re looking to seriously upgrade the top six, I think it’s going to have to come via trade.

Pettersson’s act this year doesn’t impress me, but his larger body of work is genuinely great. And he’s only 26. I think he’s almost everything you want in a 1C. Any time you can package pieces to go get a player of that caliber, I think you have to do

Wouldn't the remaining Zacha/Mittlestadt be the 3rd line center?

Yup! Or Zacha on the LW/RW with Lindholm on the 2nd line.

 

[goldenblack]

Btw if it's me and I don't spend this offseason (as per my last post), I weaponize my cap space to acquire more picks.

I think that's a perfectly viable strategy.

 

[Coach Parker]

Say it was YOU as GM.

Do you try to ice a 2025-2026 squad where you spend a bunch in free agency and try to fight for 11th to 8th (WC2)?

Or do you lead one more development year?

If it's ME, I do one more development year. I understand the risk to ticket sales. But I think the Mckenna equity plus all the ice time for the kids is just too important. So yeah you burn 1 year of Pasta's career. But intuitively I think it's correct.

Peeke would be a UFA contract to deal at that 2026 deadline. Probably Korpi too. Then I think you throw some serious money around in 2026 free agency (the Eichel year).

This year taught me that going for a 1st overall is useless. The Islanders just won it.

McKenna is AT best a 20% chance so that isn't worth tanking for or developing.

I'd be with you if Pastrnak, Lindholm, McAvoy, Lindholm and Swayman weren't all in their primes. Add in Geekie and Zadorov and you have a prime window roster missing 2-3 big pieces.

If it were ME, I'd be trading the 7OA+ for a top line C. Even the guys beyond 1-2 in this draft are widely considered 1-3 years away from the NHL.

This team has too much talent to bottom out and the culture was already fractured this year with the Swayman and Marchand drama. If they can get a top line C for current roster players and the 7OA I'd do it.

But I am with you in NOT spending on UFA's. If you cannot trade for a C, you continue this re-tool and draft the 7OA and draft low again next year and hope the guys in their prime don't decline while you wait a couple years for those picks to develop. Scary thought there.

 

[pucksindeep92]

Have to imagine Rossi gets moved after a comment like that, no?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

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Have to imagine Rossi gets moved after a comment like that, no?

He fell into that doghouse hard at the end of the year. I think they’re looking at moving him. Guerin doesn’t f*** around.