Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 10th: Melk Man Edition

[fourofakindfowl]

Ike Davis .902 OPS during away games last year

 

[Woodman19]

I'm usually huge on fake twitter accounts... never believe anything... don't follow any questionable folks or search "dickey trade" on twitter


But when Cormack retweets it... that got me.

God damn heart attack. Wouldn't mind adding Ike davis... TDA please don't leave

Same, Doubled checked it and saw what happened.

 

[weems]

If you go to the jays home page there's a picture of Dickey and an article talking about us being the front runners. Very surprised to see it on their home page.

Ya thats weird.
Its also weird how Dickey appeared on OTR just a few days ago and name dropped the jays over a week ago on some other interview......almost like he has first hand info that a trade to Toronto is going to get done.

 

[Shoeless Joe]

Well your half right.

That was sharp. Well done.

 

[p.l.f.]

There are
certainly
many players out
there who
would be great
fits for us.

yeah but a mid 20's LH 1B with 30+ hr

reyes
cabrera
bautista
encarnacion
davis
lawrie

 

[Epictetus]

I don't understand why AA would want to put himself at the level of Colleti, Towers, Wade, and Moore.

Hell, I don't even think Brian Burke would do this trade.

 

[Puckstuff]

I feel like there's already a deal struck between the Angels and Mets for Dickey involving Bourjos+, but Mets are trying to work a deal out with AA for Gose+/JPA+.

Is an even bigger deal possible for Niese AND Dickey make sense? Maybe Buerhle, Gose and JP and something else maybe? Our rotation would be filthy. I think switching contracts of Buerhle to Niese alone would be worth a top prospect.


Dickey - RHP
Morrow - RHP
Niese - LHP
Johnson RHP
Romero LHP

 

[Nasty Nazem]

I don't understand why AA would want to put himself at the level of Colleti, Towers, Wade, and Moore.

Hell, I don't even think Brian Burke would do this trade.

This deal is not done yet and we don't even know what the deal is yet. Let's not jump to conclusions.

 

[Stats01]

People saying AA won't trade D'Arnaud and Gose. How the hell do you know that? All the names being mentioned is just speculation at this point. None of it is official or concrete, so settle down. Everyone is jumping to conclusions..even myself

 

[Nasty Nazem]

People saying AA won't trade D'Arnaud and Gose. How the hell do you know that? All the names being mentioned is just speculation at this point. None of it is official or concrete, so settle down. Everyone is jumping to conclusions..even myself

He can... I just doubt it would be for Dickey (at least both of them). If you're talking David Price, everybody is on the table but for a 38 year old with one year left on his contract, you're not going to give up your best guy(s).

 

[dredeye]

Ya thats weird.
Its also weird how Dickey appeared on OTR just a few days ago and name dropped the jays over a week ago on some other interview......almost like he has first hand info that a trade to Toronto is going to get done.

That was on the Jon Stewart show I believe.

 

[darko]

He can... I just doubt it would be for Dickey (at least both of them). If you're talking David Price, everybody is on the table but for a 38 year old with one year left on his contract, you're not going to give up your best guy(s).

Agree with your point but on the flip side even an overpayment for a guy like Dickey makes Jays the team to beat in AL East. Front runners for the division title.

 

[Bjorn Le]

That was on the Jon Stewart show I believe.

It was Off the Record. Landsberg was talking to him about possibly being traded after he won his Cy Young and Dickey said something like "Yeah, a bunch of teams have an interest in me, may be coming to where you are next year, heard the Jays in a few rumours"

 

[dredeye]

It was Off the Record. Landsberg was talking to him about possibly being traded after he won his Cy Young and Dickey said something like "Yeah, a bunch of teams have an interest in me, may be coming to where you are next year, heard the Jays in a few rumours"

He said he said that on another show but couldn't remember which one. I was telling him the other show he mentioned the jays on.

 

[weems]

R.A. Dickey ?@RADickey43
Taking a break from the trade talks. Love me some Toby Mac. Great show. pic.twitter.com/oDWh6cUQ

 

[JAMmer124]

@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: D'Arnaud very much in play in Dickey talks between #BlueJays and #Mets. Deal would be bigger, multiple pieces going both ways.

 

[bigred50]

Imagine the deal is done and they are just trying to work out an extension for him?

That's what I'm thinking.

I think the only way AA gives up TDA is if Dickey signs an extension with Toronto.

 

[Scion]

Interesting. Did he make any sort of adjustment to his swing or anything? He was struggling a lot early on so maybe its regression to the mean but I dunno.

It's an interesting question, unfortunately I don't have an answer for you.

Hmm. Looking at his splits last season, they are huge. Hit .253/.345/.523/.868 last year against righties with a .271 BABIP, closer to what you would expect. Despite the low BA, he still had a solid OBP and power against righties but was abysmal against lefties. Hit .174/.225/.335/.560 against lefties with a .193 BABIP which is kinda what killed his BABIP last season. I don't think its all luck that he struggled, he is really bad against lefties but is a bit better over his career with a .217/.281/.361/.643 with .277 BABIP against lefties so maybe that will normalize. I don't think I would expect him to be a great hitter unless he improves against lefties a lot but should still be an above average hitter. Increase LD% and power is a good sign though.

I don't expect Ike Davis to develop into a great hitter either, but if his numbers against LHP normalize he is good enough against RHP to be a comfortably above average hitter at 1B, and a significant upgrade over Adam Lind.

A move away from Shea Stadium should help too, his road numbers were incredible last season. Davis posted a .380 wOBA on the road last season compared to a .275 wOBA at home, and over his career Davis has a wOBA that is 40 points higher than his rates at home.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: D'Arnaud very much in play in Dickey talks between #BlueJays and #Mets. Deal would be bigger, multiple pieces going both ways.

Wow. The don't really have much I want apart from Harv and Wheel

 

[Stats01]

@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: D'Arnaud very much in play in Dickey talks between #BlueJays and #Mets. Deal would be bigger, multiple pieces going both ways.

Whoa. So this definitely could get bigger.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

How come nobody talks about romero? They could view him as a reclamation project and we take niese-- the safer bet maybe?

 

[Stats01]

I bet Ike Davis comes along with Dickey.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal

Sources: D'Arnaud very much in play in Dickey talks between #BlueJays and #Mets. Deal would be bigger, multiple pieces going both ways.

Holy ****.

 

[Stats01]

This reminds me of the Marlins deal so much. It started with Johnson and Nicolino and just spiralled from there. I could see the same thing happening lol

 

[dredeye]

@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: D'Arnaud very much in play in Dickey talks between #BlueJays and #Mets. Deal would be bigger, multiple pieces going both ways.

****ing hell this is getting real interesting. AA is drunk with desire for big trades now.