Blue Jays Discussion: Off-season discussion: Two signings. Rinse, Repeat add 1.

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Now I'm not somebody who can see the future, but i feel like Bellinger waiting this long to get a deal has to be a bad omen. we've seen tons of free agents that that had red flags get deals quicker in the past too.

It's like everyone knows it's not worth it.
 
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He's going to be a plus defender and a high OBP guy. I also think he has 25 HR potential!
Hey, I've been a proponent of his too, but that's a risky contract for such an unproven guy. Hitters from the KBO have been hit or miss in the MLB. I also don't think his bat is geared for that kind of power in the MLB. I see him being more of a Steven Kwan type if his skills transfer.
 
Now I'm not somebody who can see the future, but i feel like Bellinger waiting this long to get a deal has to be a bad omen. we've seen tons of free agents that that had red flags get deals quicker in the past too.

It's like everyone knows it's not worth it.
The red flag is he's not any good lol, this is like the David Clarkson FA, one good year going into FA where everyone knew it was an awful contract the day it was signed.
 
I can't begin to tell you how much I don't want Bellinger on the team. I would rather have exercised Merrifields $14 team option over him.
 
Man, I realize there are red flags, but some of this anti-Bellinger sentiment here is crazy over-the-top.
I refuse to accept Bellinger as a consolation prize of the Dodgers and Yankees grabbing elite talent while I'm supposed to be happy we overpaid the best bronze medal because we are trying to save face. That's loser mentality, he's not even a fit here.
 
The red flag is he's not any good lol, this is like the David Clarkson FA, one good year going into FA where everyone knew it was an awful contract the day it was signed.

In Bellinger’s defence he’s been good in 5/7 years of his career. If his commitment could come down to 5-7 years it would look a lot more appealing than the 10 years floated around out there.
 
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We need a power middle of the order lefty bat and Cody fits that perfectly. I'll be really happy if we sign him but we will be runner ups.
 
In Bellinger’s defence he’s been good in 5/7 years of his career. If his commitment could come down to 5-7 years it would look a lot more appealing than the 10 years floated around out there.
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I refuse to accept Bellinger as a consolation prize of the Dodgers and Yankees grabbing elite talent while I'm supposed to be happy we overpaid the best bronze medal because we are trying to save face. That's loser mentality, he's not even a fit here.
Bellinger can be part of a really good offseason that significantly improves the team. I don't think anyone's suggesting you sign him and call it a day.

The Jays need an outfielder and a good bat from the left side. How is a solid defensive CF (who would move to LF) coming off a 134 wRC+ not a good fit?
 
Bellinger can be part of a really good offseason that significantly improves the team. I don't think anyone's suggesting you sign him and call it a day.

The Jays need an outfielder and a good bat from the left side. How is a solid defensive CF (who would move to LF) coming off a 134 wRC+ not a good fit?
Weak contact rates means that his season last year was a fluke and I believe hte 3 previous dogshit years are closer to his talent now, especially after landing a big contract.
 
Bellinger can be part of a really good offseason that significantly improves the team. I don't think anyone's suggesting you sign him and call it a day.

The Jays need an outfielder and a good bat from the left side. How is a solid defensive CF (who would move to LF) coming off a 134 wRC+ not a good fit?

Bellinger would be a great add for this team.
 
Get used to this, folks.
Tbf 5/119 for a guy who might not even be able to hit a major league level fastball is a ton of money. That's one time I don't mind them scoffing at a price.

The KBO is a significant step below NPB at this point. The Giants paid that because similarly to the Jays, they're sick of being the silver medal in the competition.
 
My offseaseon.

- Ryu 2 years
- Brandon Woodruff on the Chad Green deal.
- one of JD Martinez or Turner.
- Brantley, or similar.
Wish there was one more big lefty bat we could add in addition to Brantley. Might have to bite the bullet on Bellinger unless we want to trade for Kepler or Yellich.
 
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Yes but if we’re to believe that he focused more on his approach and contact skills vs just trying to murder the ball, perhaps there’s expectation for some growth in his expected numbers as well. 2023 Bellinger was a lot like Bo where he was not afraid to swing at any pitch (even at 2 strikes) because more often than not, he’ll hit that sweet spot and bloop it into the outfield.

Is there risk of a drop in production? Of course. But I don’t think it’s wise to suggest he’ll be as bad as 2021-2022 when he was dealing with significant injuries. He’d still be a solid addition but not at a projected 10+ 200m+ contract.
 
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