Obscure hockey facts/stats (Part 2)
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The Panther
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Do let me know if I missed anyone on the list that follows...
400 Goals by the Player's 30th Birthday:
709 - W. Gretzky 0.791 GPG
564 - M. Bossy 0.773 GPG
494 - M. Lemieux 0.825 GPG
481 - S. Yzerman 0.558 GPG
475 - A. Ovechkin 0.625 GPG
474 - J. Kurri 0.629 GPG
460 - M. Goulet 0.560 GPG
457 - J. Jagr 0.535 GPG
449 - D. Hawerchuk 0.475 GPG
439 - Bobby Hull 0.564 GPG
438 - M. Dionne 0.562 GPG
434 - L. Robitaille 0.587 GPG
432 - G. Lafleur 0.593 GPG
418 - S. Stamkos 0.524 GPG
417 - Ilya Kovalchuk 0.511 GPG
417 - B. Trottier 0.500 GPG
413 - Brett Hull 0.765 GPG
411 - M. Gartner 0.526 GPG
Pat Lafontaine (391), Glenn Anderson (389), Gordie Howe (385), Pavel Bure (383), Sidney Crosby (382), Joe Sakic (375), Teemu Selanne (346), and Phil Esposito (328) all don't make it, btw.
I don't think anybody who emerged prior to the late-1950s would have a chance, would they? (The seasons were too short.) M. Richard and Beliveau don't make it, for example.
Anyone else score 400 by the day of their 30th birthday?
By the way, if I re-rank those 400-by-30th-birthday by goals per game, it comes out:
0.825 M. Lemieux
0.791 W. Gretzky
0.773 M. Bossy
0.765 Brett Hull
0.629 J. Kurri
0.625 A. Ovechkin
400 Goals by the Player's 30th Birthday:
709 - W. Gretzky 0.791 GPG
564 - M. Bossy 0.773 GPG
494 - M. Lemieux 0.825 GPG
481 - S. Yzerman 0.558 GPG
475 - A. Ovechkin 0.625 GPG
474 - J. Kurri 0.629 GPG
460 - M. Goulet 0.560 GPG
457 - J. Jagr 0.535 GPG
449 - D. Hawerchuk 0.475 GPG
439 - Bobby Hull 0.564 GPG
438 - M. Dionne 0.562 GPG
434 - L. Robitaille 0.587 GPG
432 - G. Lafleur 0.593 GPG
418 - S. Stamkos 0.524 GPG
417 - Ilya Kovalchuk 0.511 GPG
417 - B. Trottier 0.500 GPG
413 - Brett Hull 0.765 GPG
411 - M. Gartner 0.526 GPG
Pat Lafontaine (391), Glenn Anderson (389), Gordie Howe (385), Pavel Bure (383), Sidney Crosby (382), Joe Sakic (375), Teemu Selanne (346), and Phil Esposito (328) all don't make it, btw.
I don't think anybody who emerged prior to the late-1950s would have a chance, would they? (The seasons were too short.) M. Richard and Beliveau don't make it, for example.
Anyone else score 400 by the day of their 30th birthday?
By the way, if I re-rank those 400-by-30th-birthday by goals per game, it comes out:
0.825 M. Lemieux
0.791 W. Gretzky
0.773 M. Bossy
0.765 Brett Hull
0.629 J. Kurri
0.625 A. Ovechkin
Big Phil
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Matthew Tkachuk has a 100 point season in the NHL and his father never did.
frisco
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Phil Housley (31--1983-84) is the only teenage defenseman to score 30+ goals in a season. He's also the only teenage d-man to score 20+ in a season.
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Scotty Bowman converted Hiuslet to Centre I believe estarting his 3rd season which lasted a few years If I recall correctly
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Number of 50-goal / player-seasons per franchise (re-located franchises' ex-cities / goal-totals in bold):
0 x Colorado Rockies / New Jersey (most is 48)
0 x Columbus (most is 41)
0 x Minnesota (most is 47)
0 x Nashville (most is 43)
0 x Seattle (most is 27)
0 x Vegas (most is 43)
1 x San Jose (56)
2 x Atlanta Thrashers / Winnipeg 2.0 (52, 52)
2 x Florida (59, 58)
2 x Hartford / Carolina (56, 52)
2 x Ottawa (50, 50)
3 x Tampa Bay (60, 52, 51)
4 x Anaheim (52, 51, 50, 50)
4 x Minnesota North Stars / Dallas (55, 55, 52, 50)
4 x NY Rangers (54, 52, 52, 50)
4 x Winnipeg 1.0 / Arizona (76, 53, 52, 50)
4 x Vancouver (60, 60, 55, 51)
6 x Buffalo (76, 56, 53, 52, 52, 50)
6 x Toronto (60, 54, 53, 52, 51, 51)
8 x Chicago (58, 54, 54, 53, 52, 50, 50, 50)
8 x Quebec / Colorado (57, 56, 55, 54, 53, 52, 51, 50)
8 x St. Louis (86, 72, 70, 57, 54, 54, 52, 51)
10 x Atlanta Flames / Calgary (66, 53, 52, 51, 51, 51, 51, 50, 50, 50)
11 x Boston (78, 68, 66, 61, 55, 55, 51, 51, 51, 50, 50)
11 x Detroit (65, 62, 58, 56, 55, 52, 52, 51, 51, 50, 50)
12 x Montréal (60, 60, 56, 56, 53, 52, 51, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50)
12 x NY Islanders (69, 68, 64, 61, 60, 58, 58, 54, 53, 51, 51, 50)
12 x Philadelphia (61, 58, 58, 54, 54, 53, 51, 51, 50, 50, 50, 50)
14 x Los Angeles (70, 63, 59, 58, 56, 56, 56, 55, 54, 53, 53, 53, 52, 50)
15 x Washington (65, 60, 56, 53, 53, 52, 52, 52, 51, 51, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50)
16 x Pittsburgh (85, 70, 69, 69, 62, 55, 55, 54, 54, 53, 52, 52, 51, 51, 50, 50)
17 x Edmonton (92, 87, 73, 71, 71, 68, 62, 55, 55, 54, 54, 54, 52, 52, 51, 50, 50)
NOTES:
-- Montréal and Washington have each had 5 player-seasons where the player hit exactly 50 goals (Maurice Richard being the first of them all, of course).
-- San Jose is the only NHL franchise to have exactly one 50-goal scorer in history.
-- Chicago and Quebec/Colorado are the only franchises to have had six or more 50+ goal scorers but never a 60+ goal scorer.
-- In 46 years, the Rockies/Devils franchise has had zero 50-goal scorers; while in fewer years the Oilers franchise has had 17.
-- Montréal's first and last 50-goal scorers are 45 years apart.
-- Mike Bossy accounts for 75% of the NY Islanders' 50-goal seasons.
-- Alex Ovechkin accounts for 60% of the Capitals' 50-goal seasons.
0 x Colorado Rockies / New Jersey (most is 48)
0 x Columbus (most is 41)
0 x Minnesota (most is 47)
0 x Nashville (most is 43)
0 x Seattle (most is 27)
0 x Vegas (most is 43)
1 x San Jose (56)
2 x Atlanta Thrashers / Winnipeg 2.0 (52, 52)
2 x Florida (59, 58)
2 x Hartford / Carolina (56, 52)
2 x Ottawa (50, 50)
3 x Tampa Bay (60, 52, 51)
4 x Anaheim (52, 51, 50, 50)
4 x Minnesota North Stars / Dallas (55, 55, 52, 50)
4 x NY Rangers (54, 52, 52, 50)
4 x Winnipeg 1.0 / Arizona (76, 53, 52, 50)
4 x Vancouver (60, 60, 55, 51)
6 x Buffalo (76, 56, 53, 52, 52, 50)
6 x Toronto (60, 54, 53, 52, 51, 51)
8 x Chicago (58, 54, 54, 53, 52, 50, 50, 50)
8 x Quebec / Colorado (57, 56, 55, 54, 53, 52, 51, 50)
8 x St. Louis (86, 72, 70, 57, 54, 54, 52, 51)
10 x Atlanta Flames / Calgary (66, 53, 52, 51, 51, 51, 51, 50, 50, 50)
11 x Boston (78, 68, 66, 61, 55, 55, 51, 51, 51, 50, 50)
11 x Detroit (65, 62, 58, 56, 55, 52, 52, 51, 51, 50, 50)
12 x Montréal (60, 60, 56, 56, 53, 52, 51, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50)
12 x NY Islanders (69, 68, 64, 61, 60, 58, 58, 54, 53, 51, 51, 50)
12 x Philadelphia (61, 58, 58, 54, 54, 53, 51, 51, 50, 50, 50, 50)
14 x Los Angeles (70, 63, 59, 58, 56, 56, 56, 55, 54, 53, 53, 53, 52, 50)
15 x Washington (65, 60, 56, 53, 53, 52, 52, 52, 51, 51, 50, 50, 50, 50, 50)
16 x Pittsburgh (85, 70, 69, 69, 62, 55, 55, 54, 54, 53, 52, 52, 51, 51, 50, 50)
17 x Edmonton (92, 87, 73, 71, 71, 68, 62, 55, 55, 54, 54, 54, 52, 52, 51, 50, 50)
NOTES:
-- Montréal and Washington have each had 5 player-seasons where the player hit exactly 50 goals (Maurice Richard being the first of them all, of course).
-- San Jose is the only NHL franchise to have exactly one 50-goal scorer in history.
-- Chicago and Quebec/Colorado are the only franchises to have had six or more 50+ goal scorers but never a 60+ goal scorer.
-- In 46 years, the Rockies/Devils franchise has had zero 50-goal scorers; while in fewer years the Oilers franchise has had 17.
-- Montréal's first and last 50-goal scorers are 45 years apart.
-- Mike Bossy accounts for 75% of the NY Islanders' 50-goal seasons.
-- Alex Ovechkin accounts for 60% of the Capitals' 50-goal seasons.
frisco
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Correct to a degree. Housley at the most played 40 games total at C in his career. Mostly in his 3rd and 4th seasons as a 20 and 21 year-old. Even then, he manned the point on the power play full time. Not in his first two seasons where he scored 19 as an 18 year-old and 31 the next year.
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Patrick Sieloff was called up by Calgary for the final game of the 2016 season and scored a goal. Over the summer he was traded to Ottawa and was called up again a year later late in the season by Ottawa...and scored another goal.
Sieloff became the only player to score a goal in each of his first two games, with the first and second games being played for different teams. Those are also the only two games of his NHL career.
Sieloff became the only player to score a goal in each of his first two games, with the first and second games being played for different teams. Those are also the only two games of his NHL career.
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What do the following players all have in common:?
Stan Mikita
Ed Hospodar
Alexei Zhitnik
Glenn Anderson
Evgeni Malkin
Ching Johnson
Gordie Howe
Gord Lane
Maurice Richard
Paul Laus
Alex Killorn
Frank Mahovolich
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Stan Mikita
Ed Hospodar
Alexei Zhitnik
Glenn Anderson
Evgeni Malkin
Ching Johnson
Gordie Howe
Gord Lane
Maurice Richard
Paul Laus
Alex Killorn
Frank Mahovolich
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Connor McDavid: Accomplished 100 takeaways and 100 points in one season. I don’t think anyone since they kept track has accomplished that feat.
Leon Draisaitl achieved a 50 goal and 50 assist, 50% Face of win percentage and shooting over 20% season during the 2018-19 season.
Leon Draisaitl achieved a 50 goal and 50 assist, 50% Face of win percentage and shooting over 20% season during the 2018-19 season.
frisco
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The 1985 and 1988 Oilers' playoff teams each had five different players hit double-digits in goals:
1985
19 - Kurri
17 - Gretzky
12 - Coffey
12 - Messier
10 - Anderson
1988
14 - Kurri
13 - Simpson
12 - Gretzky
11 - Messier
10 - Tikkanen
The 1983, 1984, and 1987 Oiler-clubs had only three apiece.
But there were four in 1990:
16 - Simpson
13 - Tikkanen
10 - Kurri
10 - Anderson
Obviously, this is only going to be possible in the four-round era and not in the DPE, but after a quick look at a few other clubs I can't find any other playoff team that had even four double-digit goal scorers, let alone five.
Has any other playoff team had four?
1985
19 - Kurri
17 - Gretzky
12 - Coffey
12 - Messier
10 - Anderson
1988
14 - Kurri
13 - Simpson
12 - Gretzky
11 - Messier
10 - Tikkanen
The 1983, 1984, and 1987 Oiler-clubs had only three apiece.
But there were four in 1990:
16 - Simpson
13 - Tikkanen
10 - Kurri
10 - Anderson
Obviously, this is only going to be possible in the four-round era and not in the DPE, but after a quick look at a few other clubs I can't find any other playoff team that had even four double-digit goal scorers, let alone five.
Has any other playoff team had four?
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cupcrazyman
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The points differential between Gretzky & Jagr is 936pts
To find the same differential in points between Jagr & the next player,
You have to go all the way down to Dave Keon who is 91st in points with 985pts.
To find the same differential in points between Jagr & the next player,
You have to go all the way down to Dave Keon who is 91st in points with 985pts.
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The Penguins in their history are 6-0 in Game 7s, on the road. By far the best record in NHL history. It isn't even close otherwise. Yet they are 4-7 at home in Game 7s.
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This is the first series in Stanley Cup Playoffs history in which multiple games have opposing goaltenders each making their first career playoff start – Linus Ullmark (BOS) and Antti Raanta (CAR) each did so in Game 1, while Jeremy Swayman (BOS) and Pyotr Kochetkov (CAR) did so in Game 3.
Nicholas Paul and Max Domi both scored their first two career Stanley Cup Playoffs goals in their respective team's #Game7. First day in NHL history, that multiple players achieved that feat.
Nicholas Paul and Max Domi both scored their first two career Stanley Cup Playoffs goals in their respective team's #Game7. First day in NHL history, that multiple players achieved that feat.
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MAMA MIA!!!
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In 2001-02 and 2002-03 Slovakia had six 30-goal scorers in the NHL regular season. Second only to Canada on both occasions (USA also had six in 01-02).
On the other hand, Slovakia hasn't had a 30-goal scorer since 2013-14.
On the other hand, Slovakia hasn't had a 30-goal scorer since 2013-14.
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sorry but a basketball stat just blew my mind
Kareem Abdul jabbar is the NBA All time scoring leader over 23 seasons with 38.000 points
He only converted and made one Three point shot his entire career
Even Bryant reeves has 3
Kareem Abdul jabbar is the NBA All time scoring leader over 23 seasons with 38.000 points
He only converted and made one Three point shot his entire career
Even Bryant reeves has 3
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That’s gotta have an asterisk though. Wasn’t a portion of his career played without a three point line?
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frisco
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Nothing but net! BTW, obviously this was before the invention of the lightbulb. Looks like candles-only lighting in there.
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