3 teams! The Warriors moved from Oakland to San Francisco; not a big move but in the Bay Area it kind of is as East Bay folks don't necesarily like San Francisco.
Oakland Athletics relocation to Las Vegas thread: Move to Vegas approved by MLB owners - Will play in Sacramento for 3-4 years
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it is more complicated than that--I watch a doc on this subject a year ago---it is not just about the owner not willing to spend money but the local different municipalities not willing to rezone certain areas and wanting the owner to pay for stuff that has nothing to do with baseball
The A's situation is not the usually cut and dry stuff that comes with teams wanting new arenas or stadiums
It is also complicated by what the Raiders did in both LA and Oakland--The area is feeling burned
The doc was on youtube and if I find it I will post it. It was about 2 hours long and was interesting
Quid Pro Clowe
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John Fisher also doesn’t want to pay for his contractually-obligated portions of the project. He’s trying to weasel out of his portion of the surrounding area which includes a percentage of the affordable housing units.
I don’t need a documentary to tell me what I see right in front of me. Just look at how Fisher has run his mls franchise into the ground since getting a new stadium. The guy only sees sports teams as a source of revenue and to raise his personal wealth. He’s a cheap scumbag.
I don’t need a documentary to tell me what I see right in front of me. Just look at how Fisher has run his mls franchise into the ground since getting a new stadium. The guy only sees sports teams as a source of revenue and to raise his personal wealth. He’s a cheap scumbag.
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Especially now because Oakland residents will now cost them money just to get across the Bay Bridge going to SF. But going back to Oakland is free.
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KevFu
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The only thing I disagree with in that tweet is the word "arguably."
I've been to like 19 MLB stadiums. The Oakland Coliseum is by far the worst. Plenty of cookie-cutter stadiums that have since been torn down - Shea, the Vet, Riverfont, Busch to mention only those I've been to -- were better than the Coliseum. They had scoreboards INSIDE the stadium, not on top of it.
Here's how bad the Coliseum is... living 90 minutes from it...
- my best friend was an A's fan who watched them on TV constantly. He only went to an A's game when his friends had their teams in town to play the A's. He never asked us to go. But if someone wanted to go, he was in.
- My girlfriend went with me to Mets at Giants after I specifically said I was going to go, and she could seize the opportunity to do whatever she wanted for 8 hours. And when her Twins were in town and she asked me and others in a group if we wanted to go to the Coliseum for Twins/As, I said "of course I will go" and when everyone else said they didn't want to go, she mentioned she REALLY wanted to see the Twins at San Diego in three weeks, but it's seven hours away, not 90 minutes." And we all instantly exclaimed "Yes! Let's go to San Diego!"
Because none of us had been to Petco Park. So then we talked about other parks we hadn't been to, and none of us had been to Anaheim, so we added an Angels game to the itinerary. Then I answered "are there any other nearby parks we haven't seen?" with "Grand Canyon National Park." We took a week off from work, spent like $1000 each and did three games, two stadiums and a trip to the Grand Canyon, instead of the $25 dollars in tickets and parking it would have cost to go to one A's game, because Oakland Coliseum is just not fun at all.
Tampa designed the Trop in 1986, 25 years into the cookie-cutter stadium era. And because they didn't have a team at the time, they did it on the cheap. In 1989, Baltimore built Camden Yards, which changed the stadium game. And since then, every team with a cookie-cutter has gotten a new stadium. Wrigley, Fenway are TIMELESS stadiums. Dodger, Kaufmann and Anaheim have adapted with the times and are viable even if they're not state of the art. The soulless cookie-cutters have all been torn down. Except Oakland and Tampa.
So when Tampa fans say "arguably the worst" I don't know what they are talking about. Zero people would argue that someone has a worse stadium than Oakland and Tampa.
I would like to watch that doc, because I am a huge nerd.
/\ Similar experience for me. I go to Berkeley for work frequently and the people I'm with are East Bay folks. In my trips and the Giants are in town, 100% of the time we go. In my trips and the As are in town, I've gone there once 12 years ago. Even when the Sharks are in town we make that trek semi-regularly too; literally passing the Oakland stadiums on the way.
Quid Pro Clowe
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Well yeah, that’s what happens when you bend over backwards for a football team that will just leave again. The city of Oakland is STILL paying for things the Raiders wanted in the 90’s to come back to Oakland (mt Davis for one). They shouldn’t be responsible to keep the current stadium nice. The A’s franchise hasn’t done anything since Fisher bought the team 20 years ago besides hold their hands out to the city and taxpayers.
I’m not going to another home game until Fisher is gone, not because I dislike the coliseum, but because the owner is scum that has only inherited everything he has in life.
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the coliseum was a beautifull ballpark before the raiders destroyed it
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Saw an A's game 8 years ago. Only place I've been worse was the Metrodome.
Unfortunately, COVID killed my chance to see The Trop. We were going to go there before a wedding weekend in Anna Maria in May 2020.
Unfortunately, COVID killed my chance to see The Trop. We were going to go there before a wedding weekend in Anna Maria in May 2020.
KevFu
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I agree. Big vote to rezone the Howard Terminal site on Thursday.
MLB came out today and said there would NOT be a relocation fee to go to Las Vegas (some sabre-rattling to try and to goose the skids for the vote).
Quid Pro Clowe
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Exactly. This statement by mlb is completely political and meant to put the board on notice. Par the course for a Manfred-ran league.
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Sigh,.....I'm ready to move the team........to Fremont yo!!!!
The Cisco Field site is Fremont is still unused. I've never been there though, and it might possibly smell pretty bad since it's near the landfill in Milpitas.
The Cisco Field site is Fremont is still unused. I've never been there though, and it might possibly smell pretty bad since it's near the landfill in Milpitas.
KevFu
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As long as they stay in the Bay Area, close enough to remain the Oakland A's.
The primary concern is that if they move out of the the Bay Area, then the what is basically the 4th biggest market/territory in the league becomes a one-bid market permanently.
It's virtually impossible to put a second team in a market in the modern sports era; because territorial rights basically double the buy-in price, so it's more cost efficient for the potential owner to just pick a different market.
The primary concern is that if they move out of the the Bay Area, then the what is basically the 4th biggest market/territory in the league becomes a one-bid market permanently.
It's virtually impossible to put a second team in a market in the modern sports era; because territorial rights basically double the buy-in price, so it's more cost efficient for the potential owner to just pick a different market.
Quid Pro Clowe
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With critical ballpark vote ahead for A’s, a convenient ‘leaving for Las Vegas’ leak
The bay-development commission vote Thursday could advance the Oakland Athletics’...
Quid Pro Clowe
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Vote is in; A’s needed 2/3 majority of 25 voters and it passed 23-2. A good metaphor for this would be the A’s are now on 2nd base of the stadium project.
A no vote would have meant an announcement to Vegas was imminent. Now it’s looking like it’ll be the Rays or expansion. Hopefully it’s expansion.
A no vote would have meant an announcement to Vegas was imminent. Now it’s looking like it’ll be the Rays or expansion. Hopefully it’s expansion.
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Yeah I've always liked the look of it pre Mt. Davis. But with the Raiders gone, has there been any contemplation of removing Mt. Davis? Or do other factors make it too complicated a move?the coliseum was a beautifull ballpark before the raiders destroyed it
Quid Pro Clowe
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It’s not practical at this point for many reasons. The city is also still paying for it despite the Raiders being gone for years.
