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Confirmed with Link: NYR/VGK: Reilly Smith (50% Retained) for Brendan Brisson and SJS's 2025 3rd Round Pick

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I like the overall direction of the team’s moves this season, which I seldom say.

This team usually operates in a planless vacuum. Notably at the deadline, with moves that don’t push the needle much but do hurt long-term. This season’s moves look more big-picture and long-range focused, which is not very NYR-like.

I know some folks dislike certain moves. But overall, they’ve brought in a 1C, shored up the D, gotten rid of the people they were supposed to, did not sign any 300-year-old rentals, brought in no-risk former first-round reclamation guys, and replenished draft picks.

It could be a lot worse.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
Also I don’t get the thought process some are talking about with a 3rd being more value than the 2027 2nd

Like unless 2025 is some uber deep draft where the you can get a good player in the 3rd round, the 2nd round pick is objectively better lol
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On prosport draft charts current picks usually have a premium over future picks but I do not know the formula.

The second is San Jose's so that is almost a 2nd round pick plus we got a guy that may or may not pan out. I think it was a pretty fair return.
 
So Brisson last year had 8 points in 15 games playing about 12 minutes a game. As a 22 year old, if you finish the prior season playing that much and have pretty good stats like he did, you’re likely to believe you deserve a shot in the NHL the following year. Imagine if Othmann played 15 games and had 8 points and then coming in to training camp the following season and not being on the NHL roster.

Brisson probably was not enamored with not being provided with an opportunity. It appears, based on his stats, that he may have been sulking a bit in the AHL and I’m sure he’s ready for a change.
 
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NYR Viper said:
So Brisson last year had 8 points in 15 games playing about 12 minutes a game. As a 22 year old, if you finish the prior season playing that much and have pretty good stats like he did, you’re likely to believe you deserve a shot in the NHL the following year. Imagine if Othmann played 15 games and had 8 points and then coming in to training camp the following season and not being on the NHL roster.

Brisson probably was not enamored with not being provided with an opportunity. It appears, based on his stats, that he may have been sulking a bit in the AHL and I’m sure he’s ready for a change.
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Was he at wing or center for Vegas
 
Machinehead said:
Well we got a 3rd anyway.

The player is 23 and struggling in the AHL. 99 times out of 100, that's a non-asset.

So we traded a 2nd and a 5th for a 3rd, it's like... :dunno:
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Just as a VGK season ticket holder and I've seen him in Henderson, I won't comment on who won the trade, but I will say Brisson has been unimpressive even in Henderson, not to mention the games at the start of the year with the VGK. He's small, doesn't do much except for having a nice shot and I don't want to eat my words but he's likely only a fringe NHLer at best. I think we drafted him thinking he'd eventually replace Marchessault but he isn't likely to ever be that.
 
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azvgk said:
Just as a VGK season ticket holder and I've seen him in Henderson, I won't comment on who won the trade, but I will say Brisson has been unimpressive even in Henderson, not to mention the games at the start of the year with the VGK. He's small, doesn't do much except for having a nice shot and I don't want to eat my words but he's likely only a fringe NHLer at best. I think we drafted him thinking he'd eventually replace Marchessault but he isn't likely to ever be that.
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Thanks for the feedback. I used to go to Wranglers games when I lived there before there was a VGK team and I enjoyed the fans. I can remember nights when the ECHL Wranglers were putting more people in the seats than the pre-Crosby Pens.

I don't think the Rangers needed to win the trade per se. Smith will be 34 in less than a month and was not going to be re-signed here. He wasn't going to bring a notable return, but moving him was the right call. If he is a fit there this season, and possibly beyond, then it's likely just a scenario where both teams got what they wanted.
 
Brisson is added value. He helps Hartford and at worst will be one of their PP options. He’s a Korczak replacement and will push BMB and the others. Personally, I play him at center.

He was blocked in Vegas. All the draft are center and the big club’s set for several years as they’re locked in with term and all won the Cup two years ago. I know you guys ran to the stats and were like WTF, but there is real potential for a bottom-six NHLer. He works hard, has a big one-timer, and wears you down. He’s a multi-millionaire’s kid but he plays like he hates that label.
 
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Good value for a 34 year old UFA who was mediocre at best on this team. We don't draft well but we usually do a good job with 1st round reclamation projects. Nothing to lose and everything to gain here. Time will tell if he is the next Alex Bourret or Derick Brassard. Chances are it is somewhere in the middle.
 
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Drury traded a 2nd in 2027 and a 5th in 2025 for Smith with 25% retention. Smith with 50% to Vegas for the Sharks 3rd and Brisson who is waiver eligible next season. The 2nd in 2027. The Rangers should still be a good team. Pick in the 50's. The Sharks pick will be a mid 60's pick. The Rangers swapped it to Vancouver for Soucy. What's Brisson worth? 4th? 5th? Unless Brisson has a great training camp, he will be assigned to the AHL and clear waivers in October.
 
A couple young forwards like Parssinen and Brisson, who play premium positions, further muddies Othmann's chances of breaking through the roster imo. He's blocked on the wings from in front and behind, and these guys are just further competition for him in the bottom 6. Would not be surprised to see him dealt today.
 
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It sure seems a bit 'crunched' in terms of borderline young forwards. Othmann. Berard. Brisson. Parsinnen. Perrault. This doesn't include guys like Laba, Chmelar or Sykora who could push as well. Lots of guys
 
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The Crypto Guy said:
www.mckeenshockey.com

MCKEEN’S 2024-25 NHL YEARBOOK – VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS – Top 15 Prospect Profiles – Organizational Rank #27

The McKeen’s scouting team ranks and profiles the top 15 Vegas Golden Knights prospects for the 2024-25 season.
www.mckeenshockey.com

Ranked their #3 prospect here. Not bad for a UFA. Along with the draft pick
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Is Brisson better than Berard?

I'd say so. Similar skill sets, but Brisson is a little bigger. (Who isnt)

I think the question here is can Brisson play wing effectively. I know they said hes a natural center (can never have too many centers) and thats likely where hell play with the Pack, but up with the big club it may be difficult to secure that role especially with the talk of Zacha and/or bringing in another established 3C.

I talked about Trevor Connelly. I wonder if they kicked the tires on him and Vegas said no, or if the Rangers never bothered considering the major baggage he comes with.
 
if Kreider remains a NYR, is the wolfpack roster loaded? or is it just othmann going back and brodz is 13th fwd

Cuylle JTM Zib
Bread Tro Laf
Kreider Parssinen Brisson
Rempe Carrick Berard
Brodz

Miller Borgen
Soucy Schneider
Vaak De Haan
Jones
 
NYR Viper said:
It sure seems a bit 'crunched' in terms of borderline young forwards. Othmann. Berard. Brisson. Parsinnen. Perrault. This doesn't include guys like Laba, Chmelar or Sykora who could push as well. Lots of guys
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The problem is that all these guys (besides Perrault) are, as you say, "borderline."

noncents said:
if Kreider remains a NYR, is the wolfpack roster loaded? or is it just othmann going back and brodz is 13th fwd

Cuylle JTM Zib
Bread Tro Laf
Kreider Parssinen Brisson
Rempe Carrick Berard
Brodz

Miller Borgen
Soucy Schneider
Vaak De Haan
Jones
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Kreider should not remain a NYR.

McRanger92 said:
Ammunition
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Yeah I don't like trading kids but if we flipped Othmann for Peterka that's the exact kind of thing we should be doing with our spare youth parts, youth for youth.
 
mas0764 said:
The problem is that all these guys (besides Perrault) are, as you say, "borderline."



Kreider should not remain a NYR.



Yeah I don't like trading kids but if we flipped Othmann for Peterka that's the exact kind of thing we should be doing with our spare youth parts, youth for youth.
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Not everyone can have a spot. if Drury is targeting 23 year old RFAs with top line potential, no one should be upset with that. Even if it has to wait until the summer because Buffalo is afraid to take a piss without shitting themselves.
 
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