Claimed off Waivers: [NYR] Rangers claim F Arthur Kaliyev off waivers from the Kings

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That tweet was from March 27th, 2023. It is January 1st, 2025.

Yes, and the only thing that's transpired since is him getting dicked around by the Kings.

Much like Spence getting 28 minutes then getting sent to the AHL

Or like Clarke being the best player on the ice for 9 games and then getting sent down to the AHL to NOT PLAY for an entire month before going back to juniors

Or Byfield not even being used in 3v3 or PP so they can double shift Fiala

I can go on for days

Kaliyev obviously needs 'conditions' to work/be right but there's a skilled player in there. His biggest 'problem' with the org was being probably the only kid with balls enough to ask for a trade, that's when he got Robidas Islanded.
 

FlyguyOX

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Not surprising, Kaliyev was an obvious guy as a "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" waiver claim.

It's just more wild to me that the Rangers stink so much that they're sitting 7th in the waiver claim priority list.



Define "good"
Winning lotteries. Players only willing to sign/be traded to NY
 

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Yes, and the only thing that's transpired since is him getting dicked around by the Kings.

Much like Spence getting 28 minutes then getting sent to the AHL

Or like Clarke being the best player on the ice for 9 games and then getting sent down to the AHL to NOT PLAY for an entire month before going back to juniors

Or Byfield not even being used in 3v3 or PP so they can double shift Fiala

I can go on for days

Kaliyev obviously needs 'conditions' to work/be right but there's a skilled player in there.

A guy who needs 'conditions' to work with an upside of 0.5 PPG isn't what I'd call a "good" player.

Could he be a good player? I guess, there is some offensive talent there. But he kinda can't skate, is pretty bad defensively and doesn't really offer anything outside of his offense. He's more likely in that Daniel Sprong territory of players, who I also wouldn't call a "good" player.
 

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Yes, and the only thing that's transpired since is him getting dicked around by the Kings.

Much like Spence getting 28 minutes then getting sent to the AHL

Or like Clarke being the best player on the ice for 9 games and then getting sent down to the AHL to NOT PLAY for an entire month before going back to juniors

Or Byfield not even being used in 3v3 or PP so they can double shift Fiala

I can go on for days

Kaliyev obviously needs 'conditions' to work/be right but there's a skilled player in there.
He's an offensive guy that has 46 ES points in 188 NHL games ...
 

Raccoon Jesus

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A guy who needs 'conditions' to work with an upside of 0.5 PPG isn't what I'd call a "good" player.

Could he be a good player? I guess, there is some offensive talent there. But he kinda can't skate, is pretty bad defensively and doesn't really offer anything outside of his offense. He's more likely in that Daniel Sprong territory of players, who I also wouldn't call a "good" player.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree that potentially picking up a 40 point player on waivers is good, especially when much of that production came from a depth slot and limited minutes.
 

Empoleon8771

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I guess we'll just agree to disagree that potentially picking up a 40 point player on waivers is good.

I didn't say claiming him off waivers isn't good, I said he's probably not a good player like how I don't consider Daniel Sprong a "good" player.

An offense-only guy needs to be producing more than 40 points with PP time to be someone I'd call a "good" player. Even in his good year where he had 28 points in 56 game, pretty much half of his production (8 goals and 12 points) were PP points.
 

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