Never say never. Something like Rags 1st round pick for Devils 3rd round pick seems fine.
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Never say never. Something like Rags 1st round pick for Devils 3rd round pick seems fine.
Zippy316
aka Zippo
I don't think there's any deal here that makes sense.
First off, I think Staal unfairly gets some of the Girardi treatment around here. He's not the defender he was but he also isn't the complete shell of himself that Girardi has become. He's also on a contract that is a couple years shorter as well.
That being said, Staal at his current contract isn't going anywhere and the Devils are the last team that would help out the Rangers to take that contract at full value. At half value, Staal at 3 million could still be a valuable player over the duration of his contract, but I wouldn't pay much of value for that maybe the same as the Devils pieces in the OP.
I doubt there is anything that makes sense for the Devils to acquire Staal. Then when you add the team that they would be Staal from is the Rangers, I don't see a deal ever being made.
First off, I think Staal unfairly gets some of the Girardi treatment around here. He's not the defender he was but he also isn't the complete shell of himself that Girardi has become. He's also on a contract that is a couple years shorter as well.
That being said, Staal at his current contract isn't going anywhere and the Devils are the last team that would help out the Rangers to take that contract at full value. At half value, Staal at 3 million could still be a valuable player over the duration of his contract, but I wouldn't pay much of value for that maybe the same as the Devils pieces in the OP.
I doubt there is anything that makes sense for the Devils to acquire Staal. Then when you add the team that they would be Staal from is the Rangers, I don't see a deal ever being made.
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So Lovejoy + Santini > Larsson + Schlemko?
If the young guys improve and Greene doesn't decline I'd say the defence could be on par with last year. But on paper it sure isn't better.
VoidCreature
Before you see the light, you must die.
The second pair is stronger than last year from a shutdown perspective. Shero has talked about trying to get Andy Greene onto the power play, so if Lovejoy and Santini can kill penalties we'll probably get more offense out of the D, as well.
Andy Greene is continually underrated on these boards. Severson has played his best hockey next to him. As did Fayne, Merrill, even Larsson.
Long term we need to upgrade it, especially once Andy Greene declines. But for now it shouldn't be that much weaker than last year.
Stephen Gionta
Boston College > Boston University
As of right now, the Devils defense is worse than last season. We lost arguably our best defenseman. and we lost our #4D in Schlemko.
Last year the Devils D was this:
#1 - Greene/Larsson
#3 - Moore
#4 - Schlemko
#5 - Severson
#6 - Merrill
If everything works out as planned this year, the Devils D would look like this:
#1 - Greene
#2 - Severson
#3 - Lovejoy
#4 - Moore
#5 - Santini
#6 - Merrill
But thats a lot of hope for Severson to move from the #5 to the #2.
Last year the Devils D was this:
#1 - Greene/Larsson
#3 - Moore
#4 - Schlemko
#5 - Severson
#6 - Merrill
If everything works out as planned this year, the Devils D would look like this:
#1 - Greene
#2 - Severson
#3 - Lovejoy
#4 - Moore
#5 - Santini
#6 - Merrill
But thats a lot of hope for Severson to move from the #5 to the #2.
Lol no way NJ does this. I would love for this to happen same way I would love to win the lottery.
With a mobile defender is.
Staal with approx 1.2M retained for a 4.5M cap-hit paired with a mobile defender is definitely still a top-4 defender. His stick work, board work, and hockey IQ is still extremely high even if he doesn't provide much offense and isn't the most mobile skater; he can still make a good first pass. 3.5-4.5M on a shorter term deal is likely what he would've got on the open market this offseason.
go4hockey
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The Devils would be one of the last teams to help the Rangers out of bad players with crappy contracts. Come one why would they help a hated rival unless it was a huge help to their team. Staal is not a big help for any team. Good luck moving that contract.
Stephen Gionta
Boston College > Boston University
Everyone knows the Devils will struggle at times on D this year. They are counting on a lot of younger D-Men stepping up. Throwing Staal into the mix will only stunt their development. You need to let the young D play all year, learn from their mistakes and evaluate what you have.
