Proposal: Nyr-cgy

[Walkingthroughforest]

Dennis Wideman
3rd Round Pick 2017


Rick Nash

NYR get out of Nash's contract and have Dennis Wideman's 5.5 mil caphit only for this season, the Flames get a talented, big winger to play in their top 6.

Thoughts?

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[Savant]

Nash will veto this and the Rangers would want a higher pick.

 

[smoneil]

Dennis Wideman
3rd Round Pick 2017


Rick Nash

NYR get out of Nash's contract and have Dennis Wideman's 5.5 mil caphit only for this season, the Flames get a talented, big winger to play in their top 6.

Thoughts?

The Rangers don't need to "get out of Nash's contract." They are well below the salary cap right now, and they really only have one expensive-ish raise to dish out next offseason (an offseason where Glass comes off the books and they lose another salary to the expansion draft).

If they can get value for Nash (more likely at the trade deadline), then I can see him being traded. Otherwise, there's just no need.

 

[Johnnybegood13]

Nash will veto this and the Rangers would want a higher pick.

Good. Nash isn't worth a pick, an extra $10.2 million(real money) and a year of valuable cap space to Calgary.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Dennis Wideman
3rd Round Pick 2017


Rick Nash

NYR get out of Nash's contract and have Dennis Wideman's 5.5 mil caphit only for this season, the Flames get a talented, big winger to play in their top 6.

Thoughts?

A. Nash has already vetoed any trade to a Canadian team. B. We aren't looking to dump his contract. He will be back to a 25-30g scorer this year. He has some value at 7.8 and if we retain say 1.8, at 6 million he has good value. He isn't a Bolland or Girardi. He has value.

 

[Machinehead]

Rangers fans would be jumping out windows.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Dennis Wideman
3rd Round Pick 2017


Rick Nash

NYR get out of Nash's contract and have Dennis Wideman's 5.5 mil caphit only for this season, the Flames get a talented, big winger to play in their top 6.

Thoughts?

Flames can't afford this and also since Nash is a left shot he adds further redundancy to a left shot heavy power play of ours. If we are pulling out the Brinks truck it better be for a player who makes Troy Brouwer expendable and tradeable.

Adding a 7.8 million dollar cap hit for 2016-17 likely makes it very difficult or even impossible to sign Sam Bennett and Brian Elliott. Two pieces who are more important than a 33 year old Rick Nash.

Only way this trade makes any sense is if you're sending Michael Frolik's 4 million the other way. But since Frolik has positive value there are other trades to explore for him.

 

[NateB19]

The Rangers get screwed by the refs enough already.

 

[Savant]

Good. Nash isn't worth a pick, an extra $10.2 million(real money) and a year of valuable cap space to Calgary.

And I assure you the Rangers are just as enthused about Wideman

 

[One Winged Angel]

Flames can't afford this and also since Nash is a left shot he adds further redundancy to a left shot heavy power play of ours. If we are pulling out the Brinks truck it better be for a player who makes Troy Brouwer expendable and tradeable.

Adding a 7.8 million dollar cap hit for 2016-17 likely makes it very difficult or even impossible to sign Sam Bennett and Brian Elliott. Two pieces who are more important than a 33 year old Rick Nash.

Only way this trade makes any sense is if you're sending Michael Frolik's 4 million the other way. But since Frolik has positive value there are other trades to explore for him.

Rick Nash doesn't have negative value.

 

[Raspewtin]

Good god no.

Good. Nash isn't worth a pick, an extra $10.2 million(real money) and a year of valuable cap space to Calgary.

lol jesus christ.

 

[Johnnybegood13]

Rick Nash doesn't have negative value.

Exactly what do you think an oft injured 32 year old making $8m for the next 2 years is worth?

Good god no.



lol jesus christ.

I haven't read the good book for a while so maybe you can explain?

Never mind, I'll explain, Calgary wouldn't/couldn't take on his contract.

 

[5 4 Fighting]

42 goals and 70 points before last season and you aren't interested? Lol

 

[Johnnybegood13]

42 goals and 70 points before last season and you aren't interested? Lol

Did you sneak in the extra point to make it look good?

The answer is no, at 32,salary and his injury history he's not worth gutting the flames in order to fit him in.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Exactly what do you think an oft injured 32 year old making $8m for the next 2 years is worth?

I'm not a GM, I don't know what his exact value is, but take a look at all the players that it took giving up 1sts or top prospects to move.

Guys like Bickell, Bolland, etc. Nash could outproduce those guys in his sleep. Even in a year in which he missed 20 games, he still had better numbers than anything they've put up recently.

That's not even factoring in his 42 goal season from the year before, which you and every armchair general manager sitting on your xbox playing EA NHL seems to ignore.

Get real.

 

[Flamesjustwin]

42 goals and 70 points before last season and you aren't interested? Lol

Yes, because it makes no sense for the Flames.

 

[Shootertooter]

Calgary=Canada=no Nash

Wideman=Sean Avery's reputation with ref's=no deal

The Rangers get screwed enough by the officials, we don't need a player with a target on his back.

if this was a viable deal, the Rangers would require a better pick at least.

 

[DJJones]

Couldn't afford him and I don't see why NYR would do that. He's still Rick Nash

 

[rhinoshawarma]

Reasons this isn't going to happen:

1. Nash does not have a Canadian team in his list of teams to be traded to

2. Nash is worth more than this

3. Rangers dont need more overpaid defencemen

 

[InfinityIggy]

Well NYR wouldnt do this.

Calgary would have trouble fitting his cap without making other moves.

 

[HighLifeMan]

42 goals and 70 points before last season and you aren't interested? Lol

Wideman in that very same year had 15 goals, 56 points and was fourth in the NHL for defensemen scoring behind only Karlsson, Burns and Subban and you aren't interested?

Nash doesn't make sense for Calgary financially. It's that simple.

 

[Skobel24]

While I do think Nash would look awesome beside Gaudreau and Monahan, Calgary can't fit that caphit in next season.

Rangers also won't want Wideman, and they could get a better return. Both teams pass.

 

[Roughly6Owls]

Calgary's currently got 8.5m (and some change) in cap space.

Gaudreau still isn't signed.

It's pretty obvious that the Flames are not adding cap until that signing happens, which kills this deal in it's crib since Nash is making more than Wideman.

That ignores any motivation the Rangers have at all -- doesn't matter how good or bad the trade is, Calgary isn't going to risk being unable to pay Gaudreau.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Wideman in that very same year had 15 goals, 56 points and was fourth in the NHL for defensemen scoring behind only Karlsson, Burns and Subban and you aren't interested?

Nash doesn't make sense for Calgary financially. It's that simple.

While I do think Nash would look awesome beside Gaudreau and Monahan, Calgary can't fit that caphit in next season.

Rangers also won't want Wideman, and they could get a better return. Both teams pass.

Calgary's currently got 8.5m (and some change) in cap space.

Gaudreau still isn't signed.

It's pretty obvious that the Flames are not adding cap until that signing happens, which kills this deal in it's crib since Nash is making more than Wideman.

That ignores any motivation the Rangers have at all -- doesn't matter how good or bad the trade is, Calgary isn't going to risk being unable to pay Gaudreau.

The highlighted is completely understandable.

As for Wideman, he's not that good defensively, the Rangers need someone solid in his own zone and good at moving the puck out of it. Wideman can do latter, but isn't the greatest in his own zone.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

42 goals and 70 points before last season and you aren't interested? Lol

The last four years he's averaged about 65 games out of 82. His points average per season has been roughly 50. Goals: 25.

Why would a cap team be interested in paying eight million dollars for a guy who is most likely going to put up 25/25 and be injured for a chunk of the year? Not to mention the fact that he is officially at the age where you can expect him to continually decline.