Confirmed with Link: [NYR/CAR] Joey Keane for Julien Gauthier

[FIRE DRURY]

Gauthier is probably Kreider's replacement too in Gorton's mind except the only thing thing they have in common is size

Keane had no future here with the logjam we have at RD. Use some common sense.

 

[LokiDog]

Love it. Wanted Gauthier as part of a return for Kreider, got him for a prospect I think is inferior to him and added to a position of weakness from a position of strength. Gauthier should get opportunity right away and has speed, size and is a goal scorer. Could be a Kreider type but even if he’s just a diet Kreider that’s a good get for this team considering how stacked we are on D and thin on forward prospects.

 

[JT Kreider]

People who thought that are out of their mind

Right, so maybe I'm right to not just go with the status quo of every move is fine especially when this organization doesn't necessarily have the best track record when it comes to the handling of prospects

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If you look back to our drafting the last few years since we started accumulating picks, outside of Lias we did a pretty good job drafting. Hopefully we can move some d pieces to help with the forward depth much like we did here.

 

[Squarp]

20 year old rookies dont force trades.
My hunch on how this came down was Gorts inquiring about Gauthier, and Keane being the cost

Asking does not necessarily mean forcing.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Dobson >>> Kravstov ATM, ignoring position of strength. But when you are drafting that high you ignore that and go for the highest upside or else you end up with another McIlrath

I must have missed the Kravtsov not having a sky high upside thing at the draft then. Also around the time of the draft there was a lot of noise about Dobson’s ceiling being a good second pairing guy/a guy who you’d like playing with someone better than him on the first pair

 

[Harbour Dog]

Very happy with this trade!

I wasn't that high on Keane anyway, and Gauthier has improved his way up to some gawdy AHL numbers as a 22-year old.

Also, taking one of Charlotte's best players is a small bonus.

 

[bl02]

Size, can hopefully add to our biggest weakness (bottom 6) and best part is that he has been getting better every year (even if it's "only" in the AHL). Kid was drafted in the first round so there is some pedigree. He is on pace for over 40 goals this season. and is really only behind Josh Norris in goal scoring for younger players in the AHL.
Sucks to see Keane go of course especially since he's had such a great season.
One question I have is could have JG used Keane as part of a trade to bring in even a better prospect/pick?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Have we given up on Kravtsov already? I still feel he should be a good player as we inch along. I wonder what is gonna happen with Andersson? Has anyone noticed how he has played in Sweden?

 

[JT Kreider]

I must have missed the Kravtsov not having a sky high upside thing at the draft then. Also around the time of the draft there was a lot of noise about Dobson’s ceiling being a good second pairing guy/a guy who you’d like playing with someone better than him on the first pair

Highest upside according to Gordie Clark, who also thought McIlrath and Andersson were good ideas so yeah I dont have unblinding trust in this management when it comes to prospects. Even worse they viewed Howden as the crown jewel of the McDonagh return.

When they actually draft a high end elite player of their own then they'll have my undying loyalty.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Very happy with this trade!

I wasn't that high on Keane anyway, and Gauthier has improved his way up to some gawdy AHL numbers as a 22-year old.

Also, taking one of Charlotte's best players is a small bonus.

Gauthier won a Calder Cup as a leader with the Checkers, good to add winners from any level.

 

[bl02]

I would let him continue in the AHL. If this kid scores 40-45 goals this year at 6'4" should we not be a bit excited?

 

[SA16]

Dominoes?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Size, can hopefully add to our biggest weakness (bottom 6) and best part is that he has been getting better every year (even if it's "only" in the AHL). Kid was drafted in the first round so there is some pedigree. He is on pace for over 40 goals this season. and is really only behind Josh Norris in goal scoring for younger players in the AHL.
Sucks to see Keane go of course especially since he's had such a great season.
One question I have is could have JG used Keane as part of a trade to bring in even a better prospect/pick?

I think Gorton might have timed this perfectly. I was wondering why they recalled keane and then put Smith back on D, this makes sense now because maybe they got him at practice and felt that if he played right now in the nhl he might lower his value? Or maybe the deal got made as he was recalled? Just spitballin

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I would let him continue in the AHL. If this kid scores 40-45 goals this year at 6'4" should we not be a bit excited?

That's fair too, but I'd say he will be up after the deadline at the very least or a cup of tea.

 

[JT Kreider]

I would let him continue in the AHL. If this kid scores 40-45 goals this year at 6'4" should we not be a bit excited?

At that point he will be 23 with 5 total NHL games to his resume. That hampers my excitement quite a bit.

And yes 23 is borderline ancient for a prospect with that little NHL experience

 

[Thirty One]

I would let him continue in the AHL. If this kid scores 40-45 goals this year at 6'4" should we not be a bit excited?

I would call him up but let him play in the AHL playoffs when the Rangers' season is done.

 

[bl02]

Just food for thought but at about the same age Kreider wasn't putting up the stats Gauthier was putting up in the AHL. I know hard to compare but just worth mentioning

 

[bobbop]

I regret getting that Keane #44 jersey.

Gauthier wore #44 in Carolina

 

[GAGLine]

I would let him continue in the AHL. If this kid scores 40-45 goals this year at 6'4" should we not be a bit excited?

Bring him up after the trade deadline. He'll count as 1 or our 4 callups, but he'll be able to play in the AHL playoffs.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

At that point he will be 23 with 5 total NHL games to his resume. That hampers my excitement quite a bit.

And yes 23 is borderline ancient for a prospect with that little NHL experience

If he was in our organization he would have been in the league for atleast a full year now, Carolina has a lot up front.

 

[eco's bones]

I like it. Worse case scenario is he's a 3rd line winger with size who plunks in goals now and again. He's a little older than Keane but he's definitely closer to making it too.

 

[Joey Bones]

Have we given up on Kravtsov already? I still feel he should be a good player as we inch along. I wonder what is gonna happen with Andersson? Has anyone noticed how he has played in Sweden?

Kravtsov is fine. Besides he and Gauthier are two completely different players.

Andersson is a goner....

 

[Crease]

I like the strength for weakness trade although I'm a little nervous by the fact that Gauthier has essentially zero NHL experience to date. Yes I know power forwards take longer.

 

[Trxjw]

After not having a pick until the 3rd round in 2016, the Rangers have now picked up 3 guys who went in the top-40.