Proposal: Nyr-ana

[Unknownbutfamous]

To Rangers: B. Montour

To Ducks: P. Buchnevich and a 2nd Rounder

NYR gets a much needed puck moving RHD. It sucks losing our best prospect, but with Vesey signed we have a log jam of wingers. You have to give to get. The second is added because RHDs are very, very in demand (Look at Hall for Larsson).

Ducks get a super skilled winger to slot on the 2/3 line. They have a log jam at RHD, so Montour would have been blocked.

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[Spazkat]

To Rangers: B. Montour

To Ducks: P. Buchnevich and a 2nd Rounder

NYR gets a much needed puck moving RHD. It sucks losing our best prospect, but with Vesey signed we have a log jam of wingers. You have to give to get. The second is added because RHDs are very, very in demand (Look at Hall for Larsson).

Ducks get a super skilled winger to slot on the 2/3 line. They have a log jam at RHD, so Montour would have been blocked.

I think maybe you're thinking of Winnepeg. Ducks have a lot of LHD - Jets have the extra RHD

 

[Savant]

Buchnevich automatic deal breaker. On HF and in real life. He was reported as one of the Rangers few untouchables earlier this summer.

 

[Hurricane Hugo]

No interest in moving Montour, pass.

 

[Irishguy42]

Rangers aren't moving Buchnevich. He, along with Skjei, were deemed untouchable by management.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

I don't see the Rangers trading Buchnevich.

 

[garyturner3]

Why exactly are the Rangers adding a pick when they're also giving up the best prospect in the deal? Any list you search has Buchnevich ranked higher than Montour. Just because RHD are in demand doesn't mean GM's are nuts. The Hall-Larsson deal is not the new benchmark despite what people on here think now.

 

[Unknownbutfamous]

I think maybe you're thinking of Winnepeg. Ducks have a lot of LHD - Jets have the extra RHD

I would think there Depth chart is;

Lindholm Vatanen
Fowler Bieska
Theodore Manson

Thats good depth on both sides

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Why exactly are the Rangers adding a pick when they're also giving up the best prospect in the deal? Any list you search has Buchnevich ranked higher than Montour.

Skilled RHD are more difficult to come by, supply and demand gives Montour more trade value.

 

[Unknownbutfamous]

Why exactly are the Rangers adding a pick when they're also giving up the best prospect in the deal? Any list you search has Buchnevich ranked higher than Montour.

Yes but he is a RHD. You know RHD are scarce when the NJD give up Adam freakin Larsson for Hall (a top 5 LW in the league).

No one is untouchable. What that really means is that it would take nothing short of an over payment to trade him. Montour is a stud. 22 years old and 57 points in 68 games in the AHL. Stud!

 

[mytduxfan*]

Yeah BM has never liked Russian players. Regardless, Montour is a keeper. Pass.

 

[garyturner3]

Yes but he is a RHD. You know RHD are scarce when the NJD give up Adam freakin Larsson for Hall (a top 5 LW in the league).

No one is untouchable. What that really means is that it would take nothing short of an over payment to trade him. Montour is a stud. 22 years old and 57 points in 68 games in the AHL. Stud!

Everyone loves to use that Larsson deal as the new benchmark in their lopsided proposals, but it's not. It was a single example of one team that knew they had to overpay and got screwed because of it. That sort of overpayment is not going to be the norm going forward. RHD aren't more rare than they were before the Larsson deal.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Posted this yesterday in another thread -

Montour + 2nd + Thompson (LTIR) for Miller

 

[Raspewtin]

Neither team does this.

Posted this yesterday in another thread -

Montour + 2nd + Thompson (LTIR) for Miller

I think I would do this.

 

[mytduxfan*]

Posted this yesterday in another thread -

Montour + 2nd + Thompson (LTIR) for Miller

I'd do it.

 

[Lundy HOF]

Buch is going nowhere outside of an absurd overpayment. We have been waiting for him to come over; he isn't going to move for anything close to fair value prior to seeing what he can do in NA (I suspect there will be an adjustment period).

The winger I would move for Montour as stated in another thread is Miller.

 

[Drew4u]

No way the rangers are moving Buchenvich. He's a top prospect, going to be an offensive force in the NHL. Just because he's a defencemen doesn't mean he had more value. Does this mean Trouba has more value than Laine? He's a right hand shot.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Ana & nyr

To NYR -

D Brandon Montour, OTT '17 2nd, F Nate Thompson (LTIR)

To ANA -

F JT Miller


It would seem Montour represents the biggest need in the Rangers system, a very talented RHD puck mover who could be ready to step in immediately. His stock has shot through the roof since being drafted due to his ability to put up great numbers at each level thus far. Thompson is merely a salary dump, he's out for most of the year and gives the Ducks some budget flexibility. The Ducks also add a 2nd to help make up for Miller being more proven, although it appears the Rangers should have a couple in house replacements in Vesey and Buch.

Miller provides the Ducks with some much needed affordable scoring. I'd like to see him and Rakell together to form a very dangerous second scoring line. It would be tough to part with such an impressive prospect like Montour, but Miller represents a much bigger current and future need.


Thoughts?

 

[Stephen Gionta]

This is a good deal.

 

[Exit Dose]

I'd rather have Montour. We're going to have to move out one of the more expensive defensemen in the near future, so I would rather use one of those to accomplish what this trade is trying to; most likely with Fowler(not saying that New York would be the destination).

 

[Trxjw]

As a Rangers fan I don't hate it, but I don't love it either. Basically forces us to play one of Vesey or Buchnevich in the top-six, even if they're not ready, or play a bottom six player in that role. Not that I'm overly worried about being a great team this year, but I'm not sure if a 2nd makes up the difference.

 

[pld459666]

Not a fan of moving JT Miller. But I understand the rationale

 

[Shootertooter]

I think Vesey and Buch make someone expendable and that looks more and more to be Miller every day.


Value is good, both teams get what they need and Ott's 2nd is likely to be a good pick. In a similar thread last night I said the Rangers should hold out for a Anh's first.......but Ott's 2nd would likely be a better pick than Anh's 2nd so it is closer. This is pretty good value.

I think I lean towards making this deal from the Rangers point of view.

This is the second time I've seen this exact deal though, not sure if it is the brainchild of this OP.

 

[caliamad]

As a ducks fan, I was initially worried we'd be adding too much salary.

Miller only makes 2.5,2.75 for 2 years and is an RFA. Only 23 yeard old. scored 20+ goals and 40 + points last year.

That is about 800k more than nate thompson.

Montour I think is going to be good, but is a deal I think is too good to pass up. I also think it addresses the other team needs, assuming they can wait 1 or 2 years on Montour.

NYR also cut salary and can put nate on LTIR. He'd be available for playoffs or they move him for another pick.

Good job OP.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I think Vesey and Buch make someone expendable and that looks more and more to be Miller every day.


Value is good, both teams get what they need and Ott's 2nd is likely to be a good pick. In a similar thread last night I said the Rangers should hold out for a Anh's first.......but Ott's 2nd would likely be a better pick than Anh's 2nd so it is closer. This is pretty good value.

I think I lean towards making this deal from the Rangers point of view.

This is the second time I've seen this exact deal though, not sure if it is the brainchild of this OP.

Yeah I've posted the idea a few times now just never in it's own thread.