Proposal: NYR 2017 1st Rounder for your available DMan

[Savant]

Title says it all.

Rangers are a little weird asset wise as their best "trade chips", (Miller, Skjei, Hayes, etc) have become very indisposable. NYR is still in win-now mode so I think this pick could certainly be in play for the right dman, especially with the Rangers inclination of signing NCAA or Euro players as an alternative.

Other assets can be involved as well, depending on who would be available but the the Rangers probably aren't going to get crazy. They didn't get crazy for Trouba so they aren't necessarily going to go crazy here.

I'm not trying to attach any bad contracts here and want to keep this as minimalist as possible. I am moreso curious of teams that are willing to sell and who would be available for a 1st.

I have a long car ride coming up today, so keep me entertained

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[Pavel Buchnevich]

We don't need to trade any more draft picks. Our defense is good enough, look at our goals against per game. People are just complaining because of bad advanced stats the last few games. You don't make trades because of advanced stats when the real stats are good.

 

[RangerRick61]

Let's try and keep a first round pick for once in 4 years. Thanks.

 

[donut]

Do the Rangers even have their 1st round pick? Honestly feels like the team doesn't own draft picks

 

[Habs Halifax]

What kind of guy you expecting? Top 2D, Top 4D, or bottom pairing? The rangers 1st round pick will be a mid to later pick range guaranteed (20-30 range IMO). That might get you an expiring UFA or a guy with 2 years left.

 

[WesMcCauley]

We don't need to trade any more draft picks. Our defense is good enough, look at our goals against per game. People are just complaining because of bad advanced stats the last few games. You don't make trades because of advanced stats when the real stats are good.

Im not for making another trade for a rental but i also think our defense goes from bad to pretty good by just taking Girardi out of the lineup and play Clendening instead

 

[GAGLine]

Do the Rangers even have their 1st round pick? Honestly feels like the team doesn't own draft picks

We haven't had a 1st round pick since 2012, but we've had some success with mid round picks (Duclair, Buchnevich, Shesterkin, Graves). Adding Hayes and Vesey for free certainly helps.

Our last 4 1st round picks were Kreider, McIlrath, Miller and Skjei. We whiffed on McIlrath, but the rest are contributing at a high level right now.

I'm really looking forward to drafting on day 1 again lol.

 

[Savant]

Rangers draft pick is going to be late. This is a win now team that has found success in later rounds. I'd rather have the player I could get in a trade than a 1st, and take my chances in FA and try to get a Vesey/Hayes/Zuccarello.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

You can have Sekera for a 1st.

We need the assets for a true power play quarterback type.

 

[Savant]

What kind of guy you expecting? Top 2D, Top 4D, or bottom pairing? The rangers 1st round pick will be a mid to later pick range guaranteed (20-30 range IMO). That might get you an expiring UFA or a guy with 2 years left.

Mid to high pairing. Preferably RH. I have no expectations. Like obviously I'm expecting something in between like Wideman and Shattenkirk. Someone that AV wont bury for being weak on the boards, but has some offensive ability and can eat minutes.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Rangers look fine right now.

Burning another 1st would be a mistake. Also, a late 1st rarely brings back a serious impact dman anymore, especially a rental

in addition that not all dmen adjust to different systems well

 

[Savant]

We don't need to trade any more draft picks. Our defense is good enough, look at our goals against per game. People are just complaining because of bad advanced stats the last few games. You don't make trades because of advanced stats when the real stats are good.

You also don't rest on the laurels of an obviously flawed defense just because you are doing well in autumn. especially knowing that the Rangers made a Trouba run.

 

[Savant]

You can have Sekera for a 1st.

We need the assets for a true power play quarterback type.

Don't think the Rangers can take Sekera's contract. Also wouldn't give a First for him.

 

[Savant]

Im not for making another trade for a rental but i also think our defense goes from bad to pretty good by just taking Girardi out of the lineup and play Clendening instead

Vigneault has proven that he won't do that unless he is on he second leg of a back to back.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Don't think the Rangers can take Sekera's contract. Also wouldn't give a First for him.

LAK sure regret that

 

[Trxjw]

How about we try that whole "draft a guy" thing this time around?

 

[Gm0ney]

Do the Rangers have room to protect another D for expansion or is this guy going to be exposed? Staal and Girardi have NMCs and I assume you'll be protecting McDonagh. So you'll either need to protect 4 D and 4 F (and I think you've got more than 4 forwards you'd want to protect) or expose this guy you just acquired for a 1st rounder to the expansion draft. Worth it?

 

[Savant]

LAK sure regret that

If they would have won the cup with he they wouldn't regret it though. Sometimes you need to be aggressive and make move. Sekera actually played very well for LA if I remember correctly. He just hasn't played as well since he left.

 

[Savant]

Do the Rangers have room to protect another D for expansion or is this guy going to be exposed? Staal and Girardi have NMCs and I assume you'll be protecting McDonagh. So you'll either need to protect 4 D and 4 F (and I think you've got more than 4 forwards you'd want to protect) or expose this guy you just acquired for a 1st rounder to the expansion draft. Worth it?

Fair point, but I think the Rangers are gunning for a cup and worrying about the rest later. Or they can just get a rental.

 

[Savant]

How about we try that whole "draft a guy" thing this time around?

Because the Rangers are cup contenders right now and who knows when the mystery box that they draft will be able to contribute while the window is still open.

Also the Rangers have the clout to attract the top NCAA and Euro guys. Those are their first round pick equivalents.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

If they would have won the cup with he they wouldn't regret it though. Sometimes you need to be aggressive and make move. Sekera actually played very well for LA if I remember correctly. He just hasn't played as well since he left.

I recall the opposite, he really was out of place and didnt gel with their system. Then he got hurt was pretty useless.

Sure, you cant fault for taking a big swing, but Sekera really didnt fit their system and many speculated that while LAK was in market for a top 4D, LAK made the deal to prevent CHI from getting him (who he would have been a much better fit for) because they were hot after him

 

[Savant]

I recall the opposite, he really was out of place and didnt gel with their system. Then he got hurt was pretty useless.

Sure, you cant fault for taking a big swing, but Sekera really didnt fit their system and many speculated that while LAK was in market for a top 4D, LAK made the deal to prevent CHI from getting him (who he would have been a much better fit for) because they were hot after him

Someone get a Kings fan in here!

I thought they wanted him back but couldn't afford.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Someone get a Kings fan in here!

I thought they wanted him back but couldn't afford.

I have the feeling the need to bring him back was due to the ransom they paid for him then got virtually nothing from him when he got injured and hoped re-signing him would lessen the blow of the price they paid and hoped he would grow on the team

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

The quality of defenceman we could get for a 20-30 range 1st is not worth trading yet another 1st round pick. I think if they decide to go for it, they trade some of that insane winger depth at the deadline. Probably Zuccarello

 

[Savant]

The quality of defenceman we could get for a 20-30 range 1st is not worth trading yet another 1st round pick. I think if they decide to go for it, they trade some of that insane winger depth at the deadline. Probably Zuccarello

I would much rather trade a first than Zuccarello.