Speculation: Nylander XI - All rumors, proposals, discussion, etc. HERE

[Taluss]

He's worth a second round pick at best being unsigned and that price is dropping daily

Okay... That’s slightly harsh. A second and Pesce for Nyl and a 3rd or 4th at least rn. Yes as days go by it drops by not down to something as low as a second lol

 

[34]

No team is trading for an unsigned Nylander, they will have a contract worked out prior, or at the very least a good basis to start discussions.

Exactly, and Toronto is not going to trade him unsigned for A low return. Toronto will want to maximize the return, meaning a contract will have to be negotiated with the new team.

 

[Brobust]

I wonder why Drouin for Sergachev is never brought up as a comparable trade on here.

Drouin was actually under contract and walked away. He's a lesser player than Nylander. And the Lightning for a stud 20 year old for him.

 

[34]

Okay... That’s slightly harsh. A second and Pesce for Nyl and a 3rd or 4th at least rn. Yes as days go by it drops by not down to something as low as a second lol

lol, Toronto is not the one adding here. Nylander has absolutely no leverage, Toronto owns his rights until he is 27. He is restricted, he is going nowhere. So these lowball garbage trade offers are not going to cut it.

 

[Romang67]

This is an exact replica of the Kessel scenario, coming off a ELC, the star winger who could be a center wants money traded in the fall.

Eventually he was traded for two 1sts and a 2nd.

He was traded for what was expected to be two late first rounders and a late second rounder.

As it turned out, the trade has been universally panned as one of the worst trades in recent memory.

What gives you the idea that any GM would be willing to risk a similar trade?

 

[boredmale]

I wonder why Drouin for Sergachev is never brought up as a comparable trade on here.

Drouin was actually under contract and walked away. He's a lesser player than Nylander. And the Lightning for a stud 20 year old for him.

Drouin underachieved his first couple of years while Nylander has two 60 points seasons so I probably would put Nylander's value slightly higher

 

[Brock Radunske]

He's worth a second round pick at best being unsigned and that price is dropping daily

I thought people in Boston understood hockey.
I guess not

 

[Taluss]

lol, Toronto is not the one adding here. Nylander has absolutely no leverage, Toronto owns his rights until he is 27. He is restricted, he is going nowhere. So these lowball garbage trade offers are not going to cut it.

You seriously think Canes would add much? Lol. Tor is in no position to expect them to.

 

[capfit9]

Aho, Hurricanes working on long-term contract: report

This will very well affect Nylander

 

[34]

You seriously think Canes would add much? Lol. Tor is in no position to expect them to.

Ok, but the other teams in the NHL can not expect Toronto to do them any favors. I mean, Nylander is a young elite player that every team would like on their roster.


The Leafs are in full control. If Willy wants be Stubborn, no prob...sit out until you are 27.

 

[Taluss]

Ok, but the other teams in the NHL can not expect Toronto to do them any favors. I mean, Nylander is a young elite player that every team would like on their roster.


The Leafs are in full control. If Willy wants be Stubborn, no prob...sit out until you are 27.

Of course not, and obviously they wouldn’t. No team will overpay for someone holding out though. If a trade comes I think it will be very very even.

I feel as if every day Leafs gain leverage on signing Nyl but at the same time if they wait until a week before Dec to trade him I don’t think at that point that they will be the ones in full control. Why over pay for Toronto’s problem? If they don’t want to take what you have to offer then fine like you said let him sit out but at the same time loose an asset that can help you with a cup run.

 

[A1LeafNation]

He was traded for what was expected to be two late first rounders and a late second rounder.

As it turned out, the trade has been universally panned as one of the worst trades in recent memory.

What gives you the idea that any GM would be willing to risk a similar trade?

Lottery protect the picks

 

[613Leafer]

He was traded for what was expected to be two late first rounders and a late second rounder.

As it turned out, the trade has been universally panned as one of the worst trades in recent memory.

What gives you the idea that any GM would be willing to risk a similar trade?

Why would you expect late 1sts on a team that had Stajan as a #1C, Toskala as a #1G, no #1D, and weak depth?

Leafs were projected bottom feeders by most at the time, and rightly so. Kessel at the time was only a ~60 point forward, not exactly a guy to carry a bottom feeder.

 

[34]

Of course not, and obviously they wouldn’t. No team will overpay for someone holding out though. If a trade comes I think it will be very very even.

I feel as if every day Leafs gain leverage on signing Nyl but at the same time if they wait until a week before Dec to trade him I don’t think at that point that they will be the ones in full control. Why over pay for Toronto’s problem? If they don’t want to take what you have to offer then fine like you said let him sit out but at the same time loose an asset that can help you with a cup run.

It is not a problem for Toronto. It costs the Leafs zero against the Cap. Willy can sit until he is 27 if he whats.

Nylander is a luxury, not a problem. Toronto has a ton of depth moving forward. They have no issues winning without him.

 

[Taluss]

It is not a problem for Toronto. It costs the Leafs zero against the Cap. Willy can sit until he is 27 if he whats.

Nylander is a luxury, not a problem. Toronto has a ton of depth moving forward. They have no issues winning without him.

I’d say having someone of his caliper sitting when he could be playing is a problem. Yes they have no issues winning cuz Tor is a damn good team, but they could be even better with him or with a trade. It would feel shitty to loose in 7 in the 3rd round knowing you could have had an extra player who makes impact

 

[MinJaBen]

Aho, Hurricanes working on long-term contract: report

This will very well affect Nylander

Probably won't be done before Nylander's deal. Dundon and Wadell said as much that they are sort of waiting to see what Willie gets as comparables.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

how is he not signed yet. so frustrating. it's obvious he wants alot more than he's worth. this has gone on long enough.
I'm losing hope Nylander will ever play for the blue and white again

 

[Syckle78]

I wonder why Drouin for Sergachev is never brought up as a comparable trade on here.

Drouin was actually under contract and walked away. He's a lesser player than Nylander. And the Lightning for a stud 20 year old for him.

Sergachev had yet to prove anything in the NHL. You want to trade nylander for a recent number 8ish draft pick that hasn't done anything? Didn't think so.

 

[AvatarAang]

It is not a problem for Toronto. It costs the Leafs zero against the Cap. Willy can sit until he is 27 if he whats.

Nylander is a luxury, not a problem. Toronto has a ton of depth moving forward. They have no issues winning without him.

Pretty sure your boys in blue are getting wrecked lately.

 

[Antropovsky]

Pretty sure your boys in blue are getting wrecked lately.

wrecked?

 

[TorontoTrades]

If I could have Ehlers at 6.75 or Nylander at 6.75 I'd choose Ehlers. So I guess that says something to me about his value.... Then again, if I was asked if I could have Bobby Ryan at his current cap hit or Nylanders at Ryans cap hit id take Nylander.....

I think Leafs basically are saying Ehlers and Pastrnak are on those deals so how are you worth more? They are limited with Matthews and Marner being more important contracts coming up. I think Nylander has to decide if a little money is worth a chance to win. If say they could settle on 6.5 on 7 years is it worth getting traded to make 7 somewhere that could be not a playoff team (not knowing the trading partner). 45.5 million vs. 49 million and being a part of the core of a bright future. Leafs aren't the only team that would say no to a blank check.

However, A bridge deal should have been completed a while ago. I cant see them actually losing the season.

 

[BM14]

I’d say having someone of his caliper sitting when he could be playing is a problem. Yes they have no issues winning cuz Tor is a damn good team, but they could be even better with him or with a trade. It would feel ****ty to loose in 7 in the 3rd round knowing you could have had an extra player who makes impact

lol watch him in the playoffs. He's not a playoff performer.

Toronto doesn't need him.

 

[Cor]

Pretty sure your boys in blue are getting wrecked lately.

8-4-0 and 2nd in the East.

#Wrecked

 

[37Bergenov14]

It is not a problem for Toronto. It costs the Leafs zero against the Cap. Willy can sit until he is 27 if he whats.

Nylander is a luxury, not a problem. Toronto has a ton of depth moving forward. They have no issues winning without him.

but him sitting out til he's 27 without being traded would also be terrible asset management by the leafs. Sure, he doesn't lose a ton of trade value over the short term, but as that time clicks past a few months/a year his value would take a major beating. so it's not really accurate to imply it's no sweat of the leafs' back letting him indefinitely sit out. it would be brutal to burn an asset of his value into the ground with little/nothing to show for it.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

It is not a problem for Toronto. It costs the Leafs zero against the Cap. Willy can sit until he is 27 if he whats.

Nylander is a luxury, not a problem. Toronto has a ton of depth moving forward. They have no issues winning without him.

Wow! You’ve sure changed your tune.
Yesterday you claimed the Leafs were worse than an AHL team with Matthews and Nylander our. Consistency is certainly not your trademark.