Proposal: NYI and EDM

SLAPSHOT723

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Leddy untouchable (#1 by on EDM), Pulock Allstar, Hamonic we all know.. Lets see how EDM survives going against this powerhouse team of NY.

I said Pulock is going to be an All Star, didn't say he was one now. Leddy is untouchable and top-pairing, but better than "an average #2". Hamonic is a #2/3. We do have a good defense.

Our forwards other than Tavares suck. I never said we were a powerhouse.
 

Roof Daddy

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I like Eberle and am interested, but not sure what to give up. Pulock and a cap dump for Eberle and something good isn't something I like, but I don't know. I'd hate to give up Pulock, he's going to be an all-star.

Maybe Eberle+Bear (best RHD prospect, Barzal's teammate in Seattle) for Pulock + Kulemin?
 

CodeE

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Isles need to hold onto their youth, we need a new coach and possibly a new general manager as well but destroying our prospect pool for more underperforming veterans is simply not the answer.

Boychuk for Eberle though? Sure, ya'll can deal with Johnny's contract. Boychuk/Bailey for Eberle/Fayne? I'd do that also. I doubt with so many teams needing top-4 defenseman that Boychuk is as utterly worthless as some Oiler fans believe, but he seems to like it on Long Island so waiving the ol' clause might not even be an option.
 

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Isles need to hold onto their youth, we need a new coach and possibly a new general manager as well but destroying our prospect pool for more underperforming veterans is simply not the answer.

Boychuk for Eberle though? Sure, ya'll can deal with Johnny's contract. Boychuk/Bailey for Eberle/Fayne? I'd do that also. I doubt with so many teams needing top-4 defenseman that Boychuk is as utterly worthless as some Oiler fans believe, but he seems to like it on Long Island so waiving the ol' clause might not even be an option.

No useless but not worth paying him until he's 38.

McDavid, Drai, Nurse, Pulju need raises down the road, it's about asset management.
 

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Leddy untouchable (#1 by on EDM), Pulock Allstar, Hamonic we all know.. Lets see how EDM survives going against this powerhouse team of NY.

You should reread what he said.

Also, absolutely Leddy is a #1D on your team. He's a quite a few teams. Yes, he's that good.

Pulock is projected as a top pairing defenseman who can run the PP, and I've seen nothing to show he won't be.

So how about we back away from the hyperbole and the coffee and relax?

As for the original proposal? Absolutely. But I doubt Edmonton does the trade. We need a 1st line RW, and Boychuk's contract will be ugly in a few years.
 

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entropism

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He just bought and renovated a really nice house on Long Island (I think in Roslyn?). He's not going to want to uproot his family so fast. I wonder where is wife is from.

Did some digging without crossing the creepy line. I'm going to assume she's from AB, but it doesn't really matter. They just bought a house, they were looking for long term. I doubt he waives, and I doubt Snow asks him to.
 

One Winged Angel

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Leddy's not happening.

I like Eberle and am interested, but not sure what to give up. Pulock and a cap dump for Eberle and something good isn't something I like, but I don't know. I'd hate to give up Pulock, he's going to be an all-star.



An average #2 at best?!?!?!?! Watch him play. Leddy would be your best defenseman by far. He's way better than Larsson and brings a different dimension than Klefbom, but is probably overall.

Agreed, Larsson is terribly overrated. Was never high on him and never saw why he was drafted as highly as he was.

The fact that Chiarelli gave up Hall for him makes it even worse.

Leddy would be the Oilers best defender by a landslide.
 

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So, Eberle for Hamonic straight up or what? :sarcasm:

Realistically nothing is available that both sides want from each other. Spinning tires that have been played out ad nauseum in the past year. No point revisiting it.
 

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Boychuk is overrated, old, and has a bad contract. That said, he'd bring everything Edmonton needs on the back-end and undeniably make the team better on the PP.

Eberle is overrated, small, and one-dimesional. That said, he's more valuable than Boychuk, IMO.

Also, Edmonton simply does not have the depth on RW to trade Eberle without more pieces coming back.

If I was an Edmonton fan, I'd ask to send Fayne along with Eberle and ask for a young forward to balance things out a bit.

Fayne + Eberle for Boychuk + Bailey.

I think I'd do that deal from both sides.

Give me facts; Evidence support it with game log Data.

EXPLAIN YOUR OPINION!

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What you are doing is guessing!
 

oilerbear

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Agreed, Larsson is terribly overrated. Was never high on him and never saw why he was drafted as highly as he was.

The fact that Chiarelli gave up Hall for him makes it even worse.

Leddy would be the Oilers best defender by a landslide.

the average Low danger shot goes in 5 times less than the average High danger shot.

Larsson was one of the 10 Best HD shot Dmen.
and
the best EV/PK GA D in the game the last 2 years.

since 94% of the top goal scorers in the game are Forwards.

I want my d to get the forwards the puck.
and
not abandon defence of HD area chasing goals they are not above average at getting.

Elite D.
Face 1st comp
top 40 EVA/60
Top 40 HD HSA/60
top 40 EVGA/60
Top 40 PKGA/60

Larsson 1st comp
top 40 EVA/60
top 10 HD HSA/60
#1 EVGA/60
Top 15 PKGA/60

I look forward to the game Tommorow!
 

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Supposedly JT and Boychuck very close, don't think that would be a wise move to trade him. But like someone else said, eberle and boychuck both one dimensional with bad contracts. Id take Eberle on age alone. Eberle needs a change of scenery already.Though its Scary that he was -4 last night on McDavids wing vs rangers last night.
 

CodeE

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the average Low danger shot goes in 5 times less than the average High danger shot.

Larsson was one of the 10 Best HD shot Dmen.
and
the best EV/PK GA D in the game the last 2 years.

since 94% of the top goal scorers in the game are Forwards.

I want my d to get the forwards the puck.
and
not abandon defence of HD area chasing goals they are not above average at getting.

Elite D.
Face 1st comp
top 40 EVA/60
Top 40 HD HSA/60
top 40 EVGA/60
Top 40 PKGA/60

Larsson 1st comp
top 40 EVA/60
top 10 HD HSA/60
#1 EVGA/60
Top 15 PKGA/60

I look forward to the game Tommorow!

It's just not a real NYI/EDM thread til Oilerbear comes along with obscure statistics that prove [random Oiler Player] is actually one of the best ice hockey players in the history of the sport.
 

ManofSteel55

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Nyi would not do this and in no way is Eberle your best scorer.

Yes he is. I would consider McDavid better (as he is more skilled) but he focusses more on playmaking most of the time, doesn't shoot enough yet.

And I don't really care if the Islanders would do it or not. Leddy, Hamonic and Tavares are literally the only three pieces the Islanders have that we could use if we are trading our best scorer (or 2nd best if you consider McDavid a better scorer).
 

ManofSteel55

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It's just not a real NYI/EDM thread til Oilerbear comes along with obscure statistics that prove [random Oiler Player] is actually one of the best ice hockey players in the history of the sport.

He tried to show that Dubnyk was better than Price if I remember right. Also that Martin Marincin was a true top pairing defender. I'd be offended if it wasn't so amusing. :laugh:
 

CupofOil

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Agreed, Larsson is terribly overrated. Was never high on him and never saw why he was drafted as highly as he was.

The fact that Chiarelli gave up Hall for him makes it even worse.

Leddy would be the Oilers best defender by a landslide.

Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't think that Eberle has much value but there's no freaking way that I touch that Boychuk contract so hard pass on that one. I'd like to get Pulock but I don't think Eberle gets it done.
 

SLAPSHOT723

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Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't think that Eberle has much value but there's no freaking way that I touch that Boychuk contract so hard pass on that one. I'd like to get Pulock but I don't think Eberle gets it done.

To be fair, most Islander fans have watched a lot of Larsson since he's made the NHL. We never thought he was Hall trade level. Oiler fans laughed at Hamonic for Hall. As someone who has watched Hamonic and Larsson regularly, Hamonic is better. Leddy is also better. I'm glad he's been good in Edmonton, but we do know what we're talking about.
 

Connor

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Oilers need a replacement if they traded Eberle AND Oilers cannot take on a contract like Boychuk's with McDavid and Draisaitl contracts coming soon.
 

PatrikOverAuston

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Oilers need a replacement if they traded Eberle AND Oilers cannot take on a contract like Boychuk's with McDavid and Draisaitl contracts coming soon.

Wait, so they if they can't sign McDavid and Draisaitl thanks to Boychuk, how are they going to do it with Eberle, who makes the same?

Something tells me you don't know a lick about the team's cap situation.
 

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