GDT: NY Rangers 2018 Development Camp Thread

[FIRE DRURY]

Chytil Kravtsov and Pajuniemi were the best line, Pajuniemi was a pretty good line rider, made some things happen on his own though. Keane and Miller as a pairing is unfair. Barron and Ronning have been great. Gettinger and Hajek seemed to be just strolling along, i feel like Hajek doesn't take this camp seriously because he just wants to be with the big boys already. That kid is gonna be working his butt off at TC. I liked Lindgren and Fontaine. Fontaine has grown SO much. Hughes scored twice has a nose for the puck. Andersson and Howden were noticeable on the ice every time as was Lundkvist. I think Rangnarsson plays an incredibly steady game. All in all a very fun morning, lots of great things to say.

Nice of you to share this incredibly delicious info

 

[Pizza]

Came late to this.

Was the scrimmage streamed?

Will we be able to watch that again?

 

[BringBackLibertys]

Came late to this.

Was the scrimmage streamed?

Will we be able to watch that again?

Yea, on NY Rangers facebook

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Can you give me more info on him?

Here’s a good write up about him before this season:
Men’s Hockey Incoming Freshman Selected By New York Rangers in NHL Draft

I don’t remember if he was a ranked prospect or not, but no one really had any sort of real information on him when he was drafted. He’s a bigger two-way center (6’3” 200+lbs) who started off his Cornell season red hot offensively, but cooled off production wise and ended up at a little over .5ppg.

I watched him a few times this year and a few of the games he was one of, if not, Cornell’s best players, sound defensively, making things happen in the offense zone, winning puck battles, etc. I’m not sure if he has any super stand out A+ level skill, but he’s pretty well rounded for as raw of a prospect he is/was going into the season, and he thinks the game really well. He’s good defensively to the point that his coach was putting him out at the end of the game to protect a lead or tie pretty early in the season.

His ceiling is probably a second line/middle six center at the NHL level, but I can’t really nail down that good of a comparison style wise. I don’t really have that many negative things to say about him other than he needs to just generally improve and prove what he is against better competition than Canadian prep school for a longer period of time. Kid could end up being a real steal of a pick in just a few years

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Here’s a good write up about him before this season:
Men’s Hockey Incoming Freshman Selected By New York Rangers in NHL Draft

I don’t remember if he was a ranked prospect or not, but no one really had any sort of real information on him when he was drafted. He’s a bigger two-way center (6’3” 200+lbs) who started off his Cornell season red hot offensively, but cooled off production wise and ended up at a little over .5ppg.

I watched him a few times this year and a few of the games he was one of, if not, Cornell’s best players, sound defensively, making things happen in the offense zone, winning puck battles, etc. I’m not sure if he has any super stand out A+ level skill, but he’s pretty well rounded for as raw of a prospect he is/was going into the season, and he thinks the game really well. He’s good defensively to the point that his coach was putting him out at the end of the game to protect a lead or tie pretty early in the season.

His ceiling is probably a second line/middle six center at the NHL level, but I can’t really nail down that good of a comparison style wise. I don’t really have that many negative things to say about him other than he needs to just generally improve and prove what he is against better competition than Canadian prep school for a longer period of time. Kid could end up being a real steal of a pick in just a few years

Thanks for the write up.

 

[cozandeffect]

Here’s a good write up about him before this season:
Men’s Hockey Incoming Freshman Selected By New York Rangers in NHL Draft

I don’t remember if he was a ranked prospect or not, but no one really had any sort of real information on him when he was drafted. He’s a bigger two-way center (6’3” 200+lbs) who started off his Cornell season red hot offensively, but cooled off production wise and ended up at a little over .5ppg.

I watched him a few times this year and a few of the games he was one of, if not, Cornell’s best players, sound defensively, making things happen in the offense zone, winning puck battles, etc. I’m not sure if he has any super stand out A+ level skill, but he’s pretty well rounded for as raw of a prospect he is/was going into the season, and he thinks the game really well. He’s good defensively to the point that his coach was putting him out at the end of the game to protect a lead or tie pretty early in the season.

His ceiling is probably a second line/middle six center at the NHL level, but I can’t really nail down that good of a comparison style wise. I don’t really have that many negative things to say about him other than he needs to just generally improve and prove what he is against better competition than Canadian prep school for a longer period of time. Kid could end up being a real steal of a pick in just a few years

All true except that he's not a center.

I'll add that he dominated the non-conference schedule which was admittedly pretty weak and fell off once league play started. You can chalk that up to playing in a very physical defensive system and league. Cornell was also incredibly deep and balanced their lines so that the top-9 was basically interchangeable. With Yates and Rauter graduating and Angello signing early he's probably between 2-4 in terms of forwards depending how you feel about Mallot (who's a 23 year old junior) and Cam Donaldson.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

All true except that he's not a center.

I'll add that he dominated the non-conference schedule which was admittedly pretty weak and fell off once league play started. You can chalk that up to playing in a very physical defensive system and league. Cornell was also incredibly deep and balanced their lines so that the top-9 was basically interchangeable. With Yates and Rauter graduating and Angello signing early he's probably between 2-4 in terms of forwards depending how you feel about Mallot (who's a 23 year old junior) and Cam Donaldson.

Thanks, I could’ve sworn I saw him play center at some point last season, but I’m not all that surprised I’m misremembering that, the things that stand out at the front of my mind are mostly plays from along the boards. Either way he did better than I expected him to do for such a big jump up in competition, so I’m also not surprised to hear he did better against the weaker teams. All of this is just a cherry on top of a sixth round pick, and I’m excited to see what he does next season

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I know he (Barron) was drafted as a center. For those who watched today: did he play C, LW, or RW?

 

[bobbop]

This is a key point. However it shakes out, we already have 3 picks in the 1st 2 rounds and are likely to add at least 1 more. That's a lot of high picks in a 3 year span and one of the biggest differences between our rebuild and teams like Buffalo and Edmonton. Those teams had nothing but their own 1st round picks to build around. Instead of limping along and trying to retool every year, we sold off our valuable older players. That has given us a huge jump start on the rebuild. Boston did the same thing and look how it has worked out for them.

Teams that wait to bottom out are going to have that much harder of a time to get back into contention.

We had more to sell. Similar to what the Chicago White Sox have done/are doing.

 

[Pizza]

I was being facetious for the most part, but, people are acting as if the Rangers brought in minimal talent this past draft. This team is likely missing two pieces from their prospect pool, a bona fide 1C and 1D. It’s tiresome seeing ‘uh, the Rangers are going to draft someone with character over Hughes if they get the first pick’. ‘ How could they not pick Wahlstrom, since he’s the player I know because that’s what I was spoon fed .’ Or, ‘why did they pass on Joe Veleno?’ (That was for all my fans.). I understand some skepticism, but some of this is just downright silly.

Could not agree more.

Of the two players, the Rangers had Kravstov as having the more complete game, self-starter profile that made him their pick over Wahlstrom. Then there is the time he spent in a men's league. You can disagree with that, but it seems there was a fair amount of data and tape to back it up. And the Rangers spent considerable time doing boots on the ground due diligence in Russia to check this prospect out thoroughly.

On Veleno. It was mentioned not once but several times during the Draft Telecast that many teams(GM's, staffs, scouts) did not see top-six potential with him. A solid bottom six but w/all the "better" talent available it was very likely he would drop a bit....and he did.

The Rangers fan base, maybe this is true of all fan bases have become.....perhaps a bit over-reactive when the names they are used to hearing don't show up as the pick. There is no way any "normal" person with bills to pay can watch the amount of live and tape games that these guys get paid to sit through to narrow down to the best choices.

 

[cozandeffect]

Thanks, I could’ve sworn I saw him play center at some point last season, but I’m not all that surprised I’m misremembering that, the things that stand out at the front of my mind are mostly plays from along the boards. Either way he did better than I expected him to do for such a big jump up in competition, so I’m also not surprised to hear he did better against the weaker teams. All of this is just a cherry on top of a sixth round pick, and I’m excited to see what he does next season

I'm not going to say breakout year but I think he'll be a lot closer to ppg this year. Cornell's centers are the big question but if he plays with Donaldson or Vanderlaan (best skater on the team) who are both wingers he'll do well. Both are excellent playmakers for college. My hope is that he starts to get more aggressive going to net because he doesn't have an outstanding shot and he has the ability to be a dominant net front presence at this level.

I know he (Barron) was drafted as a center. For those who watched today: did he play C, LW, or RW?

LW on a line with Trevor Yates and Cam Donaldson.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I'm not going to say breakout year but I think he'll be a lot closer to ppg this year. Cornell's centers are the big question but if he plays with Donaldson or Vanderlaan (best skater on the team) who are both wingers he'll do well. Both are excellent playmakers for college. My hope is that he starts to get more aggressive going to net because he doesn't have an outstanding shot and he has the ability to be a dominant net front presence at this level.




LW on a line with Trevor Yates and Cam Donaldson.

Thanks!

But, um, I meant today during the scrimmage at development camp. Where did the Rangers have him playing?

 

[Chytilmania]

Ugh I wanted to do an internship with Ben Prentiss this summer but it was $3k. Would love to see all the Rangers there. Next year

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Ugh I wanted to do an internship with Ben Prentiss this summer but it was $3k. Would love to see all the Rangers there. Next year

You'd have to pay for an internship? Isn't an internship a job?

 

[Ola]

Pizza- Yeah, I wouldn’t be reading a ton into Veleno and even Wilde’s drafting position. I recon it remains to be seen what it amounts to in the NHL, but the big strength in this draft was 10-20, 5-25 or however you want to slice it. That spilled over into the late 20s and early 30s. I don’t think you got really special players after like 25, but kids who normally are first round talents dropped. I think you got the complete package you normally get like around 5-12 or whatever all the way into the 20s, as was evident from out pick of Miller.

In some draft you see the guys that went 25 to 40 go like 15-30 instead.

 

[Alluckks]

lias has made some nice plays as well. controls the play well and although he's supposedly not fast, he's fluid and confident when he's got the puck. he's one of those guys that plays faster with the puck.

and he plays with some swag.

When your legs are always moving because you always know where to go next it makes you faster, not because of straight line speed but because you are going to the right spots before others are

 

[cozandeffect]

I'm not going to say breakout year but I think he'll be a lot closer to ppg this year. Cornell's centers are the big question but if he plays with Donaldson or Vanderlaan (best skater on the team) who are both wingers he'll do well. Both are excellent playmakers for college. My hope is that he starts to get more aggressive going to net because he doesn't have an outstanding shot and he has the ability to be a dominant net front presence at this level.




LW on a line with Trevor Yates and Cam Donaldson.

My bad I missed that part.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

is the prospect camp over? Were there any big surprises or disappointments?

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

lias andersson oozes hockey smarts.

dude is always doing the right stuff.

hes one of those foundation players you build around.

Would Landeskog be a good comparison?

 

[bl02]

K'Andre Miller is going to be one fun prospect to see develop.

 

[Ola]

is the prospect camp over? Were there any big surprises or disappointments?

Nah, I don’t think so. This camp is what it is. It’s a 5 day camp in late June. Some guys haven’t been on skates since April, most players are junior players but many are coming from very different backgrounds and so forth. If you haven’t skated for two months, and then hit the ice and goes hard for 4-5 days, your legs will just go bum.

As a result, you can have a Joey Keane out there — who obviously has been skating right up to camp — looking twice as explosive as the next guy and you can have someone like Michael Lindqvist who really had no skating legs whatsoever in Day 4 at least.

We are keeping as many of these kids as we can in NY this summer, I think that is great. Get everyone ready for camp.

I have a few thoughts but will need to watch the scrimmages a few more times before I try to collect them.

 

[Chytilmania]

You'd have to pay for an internship? Isn't an internship a job?

Prentiss is one of the best in the business. You get to shadow him 1 on 1 while he works his NHL/NFL guys and learn from him.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Prentiss is one of the best in the business. You get to shadow him 1 on 1 while he works his NHL/NFL guys and learn from him.

I hear that, and i still don't quite understand. This guy charges 3k for you to have the opportunity to shadow him? Do you even submit a resume or do you just show him the money lmao.

 

[hi]

He should change his name to Ben 3k Aprentiss

 

[NernieBichols]

The thing is: Kravtsov has to do the buy out. He will have to pay money to sign a deal with the Rangers for a potential lower salary. The Rangers aren't allowed to pay the buy out. And there is no way around it. No under-the-table deals etc.

This guy just wants Kravtsov to play in Europe so he can take his trip from Vienna to go watch him. Do you realize it looks and feels that’s what your basing where The kid should pay. He just got drafted by the rangers, you know how easy it will be for him to get a loan, pays his buyout and he signs with the rangers and pays off the loan. It doesn’t have to be under the table. Best thing for this kid is the route Chytil took. No doubt. Developed and coached by the rangers and given all the ice-time he can handle. Not playing one last season in the khl before he bolts for the US. He won’t get coached or developed or played genuinely just bc of that. Totally the wrong move to leave him there