Value of: Nugent-Hopkins & Yakupov to Vancouver

[Canuck86]

What kind of value does RNH and Yak hold? I assume if they were to move them a good D man and 2 way forward would be the wanted return? With McDavid the clear #1 and Leon a good #2 is there room for RNH and his cap hit?

I like the idea of the Canucks targeting an offensive C as Henrik is getting older and Sutter is at best a #2 or good #3. Horvat is still young and can hopefully continue to grow offensively but hoping he can be a #1 might be asking too much, a solid #2 would be good though. Yakupov could use a fresh start I think he could play well with Horvat.

Bringing RNH back home would be nice, him on a line with Virtanen could be a good combo.

RNH has a 6m cap hit, Yak 2.5m

To Vancouver

RNH 6m
Yakupov 2.5m
8.5m total

To Edmonton

Tanev 4.45m
Plus what?

In doing this I see the Canucks signing Russell to a 2 yr deal to be a 2nd pairing guy leaving Edler and Gudbranson on the top pair.

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[Finnish your Czech]

1) Edmonton needs an offensive defenceman RD
2) Tanev has more value than RNH

 

[Gaunce4gm]

I'd do Edler for Nuge as a Canucks fan.

Yak I'd value at a 3rd or equivalent


So Edler+3rd for Nuge+Yak?

 

[Maukkis]

I'd do Edler for Nuge as a Canucks fan.

Yak I'd value at a 3rd or equivalent


So Edler+3rd for Nuge+Yak?

Looks like a no from Edmonton. They are much better off keeping their three-headed monster at C for the time being and possibly strengthening their RHD, if possible.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

The Edmonton Oilers want to make the playoffs sometime within the next year or two, if they trade Nugent-Hopkins and Yakupov, that puts Edmonton's playoff aspirations in jeopardy.

 

[A91]

Tanev + Sutter(retained) would be fair imo but. I'd want an overpay considering the rivalry and Schneider trade.

 

[PG Canuck]

The Edmonton Oilers want to make the playoffs sometime within the next year or two, if they trade Nugent-Hopkins and Yakupov, that puts Edmonton's playoff aspirations in jeopardy.

Not if they trade for an offensive defensemen like they need.

 

[Canuck86]

Tanev + Sutter(retained) would be fair imo but. I'd want an overpay considering the rivalry and Schneider trade.

Schneider trade was from prior GM's, doubt owners would still make a fuss about it but ya never know.

Don't know how willing Sutter would be to waiving his NTC, maybe he sees a brighter future in Edm and waives. I am not opposed to that, although he is a right shot C and the only one the Canucks have.

Edler I doubt waives to go their and unlikely Edm would want him as they have lots of lefties.

Tanev and Sutter is an overpayment from the Canucks unless Edm was adding something.

I also dont think that trading RNH and Yak decreases EDM chances of making the playoffs if they are upgrading in other areas of need. Last I checked the Oilers still would have some good scoring depth upfront with those two substractions.

 

[MikeModano9]

As an Oiler fan I would never want to see this happen. Regardless of return.

 

[Elite Grinder]

What about Tanev and Sutter/Hansen for RNH and Nurse. Picks and pluses to even out the small disparity.

 

[TheGhost]

What about Tanev and Sutter/Hansen for RNH and Nurse. Picks and pluses to even out the small disparity.

Not really of interest to me as an Oiler fan. I'd rather keep our three centers unless the RHD coming in is an offensive/PP specialist. Also, no interest in trading Nurse within the division.

 

[The Cheez]

Let's just agree that these two teams probably aren't the best trade partners

 

[Jumptheshark]

Nuge ain going anywhere for atleast two years

 

[Homesick]

Not if they trade for an offensive defensemen like they need.

Neither Tanev or Edler are offensive RHD

 

[PG Canuck]

Neither Tanev or Edler are offensive RHD

I wasn't talking about this deal specifically.

 

[DraberlyakMcHallkins*]

I'd do Edler for Nuge as a Canucks fan.

Yak I'd value at a 3rd or equivalent


So Edler+3rd for Nuge+Yak?

one second, barfed just a little bit on my shirt

 

[DraberlyakMcHallkins*]

What about Tanev and Sutter/Hansen for RNH and Nurse. Picks and pluses to even out the small disparity.

ok so we are seeing

Tanev=RNH, then Nurse=Hansen. Fan tastic deal

EDM just got a defence first, first pairing right shot D. I'd have traded RNH for Tanev in June but it's not their need anymore, they need a 2nd pairing right shot D with some offence

 

[McWeber]

Vancouver doesn't have the pieces to interest me in moving RNH.

 

[Archangel]

What kind of value does RNH and Yak hold? I assume if they were to move them a good D man and 2 way forward would be the wanted return? With McDavid the clear #1 and Leon a good #2 is there room for RNH and his cap hit?

I like the idea of the Canucks targeting an offensive C as Henrik is getting older and Sutter is at best a #2 or good #3. Horvat is still young and can hopefully continue to grow offensively but hoping he can be a #1 might be asking too much, a solid #2 would be good though. Yakupov could use a fresh start I think he could play well with Horvat.

Bringing RNH back home would be nice, him on a line with Virtanen could be a good combo.

RNH has a 6m cap hit, Yak 2.5m

To Vancouver

RNH 6m
Yakupov 2.5m
8.5m total

To Edmonton

Tanev 4.45m
Plus what?

In doing this I see the Canucks signing Russell to a 2 yr deal to be a 2nd pairing guy leaving Edler and Gudbranson on the top pair.

Take RNH and Yak out and add 2017 1st and the fin they drafted this year and the nucks add a 5th

 

[Flamesjustwin]

Unless the Canucks are offering their 2017 first they simply don't have the assets to acquire RNH.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

As a Flames fan, I'd say Tanev, Virtanen for RNH and Yak is probably as fair as it would get.

 

[Scygen]

Canucks can not afford to trade Tanev, unless a similar dman comes back in return. They simply do not have the depth or the prospects to replace him.

I don't know why so many people insist on throwing him into trade proposals. it kind of shows lack of knowledge on the Canucks current situation.

 

[Canuck86]

As a Flames fan, I'd say Tanev, Virtanen for RNH and Yak is probably as fair as it would get.

Gonna have to say that is not fair. Yak has had how long to prove he is a top 6? Virtanen is 19 and plays a power forward game that the Canucks should not be looking to move.

I get Tanev plus but that additional piece should not be our best prospect. That is what he is, until Boeser signs an NHL deal and leaves College he hasn't proven he can play in the NHL like Virtanen.

Not hating on Boeser but Virtanen has the physical maturity to contribute now, just depends on how he is deployed and if he can improve his on ice hockey IQ

 

[Canuck86]

Canucks can not afford to trade Tanev, unless a similar dman comes back in return. They simply do not have the depth or the prospects to replace him.

I don't know why so many people insist on throwing him into trade proposals. it kind of shows lack of knowledge on the Canucks current situation.

You do have a valid point, we also need a higher end offensive C, Henrik will slow down and need to be deployed less and not against the top shutdown players each night.

You have to give something to get something, not always an easy move. We were one of the worst scoring teams last year, offense should be a priority to upgrade.

 

[McFlyingV]

Canucks can not afford to trade Tanev, unless a similar dman comes back in return. They simply do not have the depth or the prospects to replace him.

I don't know why so many people insist on throwing him into trade proposals. it kind of shows lack of knowledge on the Canucks current situation.

Probably depends on what people view Juolevi's potential as. I personally don't think he'll be a #1 or #2Dman, but a lot of people do. If you have confidence that he'll get there then maybe you can look at moving Tanev to get a young #1/#2C. The Canucks certainly need that player as I don't think there is any chance that Horvat ever becomes a #1C and thats really an area the Canucks will lack once Henrik retires.

Personally I'd try to move Edler and hang onto Tanev because he's a quality top pairing D who is still young enough that he'll still be in his prime when Vancouver is hopefully ready to compete again, but Edler's value has fallen off quite a bit in the past few years imo and I'm not sure he'd return the type of centre that Vancouver needs.

At this point I think Vancouver needs to hope that they win the draft lottery this year to snag Nolan Patrick.