Well I was watching the Toronto game tonight and the announcers of the game said something to the affect "That if there were any scouts there they might not find much to Jokinen's game." Ouch.
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That's not true, there WAS a hearing set to see if the players would become UFAs and all players agreed to the deals prior to the hearing. It might be "pretty clear that it happened" in your opinion, but all I said is it was never proven. That's what allegedly means. HTH
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Yep.
And here
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articl...y-lose-three-to-unrestricted-free-agency.html
And here is the signings to avoid the hearing.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/puck-daddy/predators-kostitsyn-avoid-hearings-1-deal-170452089.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/pu...ur-RFA-problems-go-away-but-no?urn=nhl-wp8812
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Dont know if you guys watched the videos interviewing Cody and Mike on videos.predators.nhl.com but man are they ever excited to be a part of your organization. Good luck the rest of the way!
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I should amend to say the hearing never happened, but you are, IMO, very clearly burying your head in the sand.
No, I'm not. I don't deny that it happened, it probably did, but I really don't care either way. However, it is intellectually dishonest to say that it absolutely did happen. It was never proven, which is precisely what allegedly means. It appears that you tried to call me our for saying "allegedly" when the real problem is you didn't understand what allegedly actually means...
al·leg·ed·ly/əˈlejədlē/
adverb
Used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no concrete proof.
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I knew/figured Cody was, as he was more of a mainstay with the team even if only for a couple years. He's been pretty outspoken about being glad to come back here, but I hadn't heard as much from Santo. He didn't do a ton when he was here and he's had more stops along the way than Franson, so I figured he may have just been looking at it as just another team.
I'd like to see us sign Santorelli, he fits like a glove IMHO. I like his grit and hustle on the 3rd line, he adds finish to that line too.
Going from the Leafs to the Predators no matter who you are would make you excited. 6 points ahead of any other team in the NHL in the standing. Yeh, I would be really happy.
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Enoch
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I know what allegedly means, and you are correct. It is alleged. I should just say that this was all but confirmed to have happened. We were just awaiting the hearings. That would end the "alleged" portion. This only didn't become a huge black eye because we signed the players we wanted quickly prior to the hearing.
I would say there is probably a ZERO percent chance that this didn't take place. Why on earth would it even come to light otherwise?
But blah, it doesn't matter regardless.
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I still like the trade. Franson will not be the next coming of Weber but he will gel and all will be fine.
Santo exactly as described so far.
Santo exactly as described so far.
The more I look at it, the more I think these guys are in our long term plans. It's tough to post this in a good format (RIP capgeek), but there's some good info here
Even assuming the cap doesn't go up, we have $32,644,523 in space right now. Jokinen is already gone, obviously, and I don't see us keeping Cullen or Volch (and if we do, they'll be very cheap). So factor in over-guesses like:
Ribiero: 5M
Fisher: 5M
Smith: 4M
Wilson: 4M
Jarnkrok: 2M
Bourque+Beck: 2M combined
That's all our UFAs except Franson and Santo, and even with those high guesses, we're at 10.64M, plus however much the cap increases by. We could give Franson a high 4.5M and Santo a high 3.5M easily, and then have 2.5M, plus increases to cap, plus whoever leaves our roster to make room for them.
If we want to keep them, there is plenty of cap space, so we might as well. Especially Santo.
Even assuming the cap doesn't go up, we have $32,644,523 in space right now. Jokinen is already gone, obviously, and I don't see us keeping Cullen or Volch (and if we do, they'll be very cheap). So factor in over-guesses like:
Ribiero: 5M
Fisher: 5M
Smith: 4M
Wilson: 4M
Jarnkrok: 2M
Bourque+Beck: 2M combined
That's all our UFAs except Franson and Santo, and even with those high guesses, we're at 10.64M, plus however much the cap increases by. We could give Franson a high 4.5M and Santo a high 3.5M easily, and then have 2.5M, plus increases to cap, plus whoever leaves our roster to make room for them.
If we want to keep them, there is plenty of cap space, so we might as well. Especially Santo.
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Keep in mind whatever we do, Jones, Forsberg and Ekholm are up next year, we can't handicap ourselves too much.
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