Post-Game Talk: Now THAT showed character... Jets win 4-3 in the SO!

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Anyone has a right to not be happy about the performance last night. A win is a win and I’ll gladly take it but I’d still rather see a performance that would give us some comfort that it would lead to future success. This team still gives up too many shots and while they have been capitalizing on their grade A chances, not enough of them are being generated. And any game that gives Maurice a reason to keep Morrow or Chiarot in the lineup is ultimately a bad thing for this team’s long term success.
 

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Saw a video of Ehlers at the mental health forum at Bell MTS and he appeared to have his right arm in a sling or something still, he wasn't using his right arm.

Wouldn't be surprised if he's not back until March.
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Not good to hear Ehlers has his arm in a sling --"bad news"--to me. He probably dislocated a shoulder, or maybe broke his collarbone in a collision with Crosby. He could have also torn a ligament. Doesn't sound good for a quick return --"too bad"-- we need him in the lineup quite badly.

Probably Ehlers has an injury like McDavid had a couple years ago-- collar bone or shoulder ??

Every team has their injuries though --we'll have to suck it up. We can win without him, and at least he'll be back for the playoffs --"hopefully."

I would think if he broke his arm--he's be in a cast ?? -- not sure on that. Hope no broken bone.
 
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I think we should put this into perspective here ffh -- Petan may have played 108 games-- but he was playing only 8 minutes per game, and playing with plugs like Thorburn and guys like him that cannot score. What good is that ??-Petan is a "playmaker." Appleton has had his chance, and both he and Copp can't hit the broad side of a barn with their shot, although very good defensively.

I'm sold on Copp as a hard working 2 way defensive guy, but not sold on Appleton --I guess we have different opinions. I do think Petan is way "underrated" on these boards, however time will tell. I do respect your opinions though.

EXAMPLE - Appleton had a wide open net against the Bruins, and missed, whereas a 10 year old kid would have scored --I'm not sold on this guy at all. Maybe he needs a little more time ??
So your sold on Appleton after 28 games in league but not on petan after 108 games. Ok . But petan will only play on 4th line with players like thorburn and Appleton. Petan has 10 assists 5on5 in 108 that's not being a playmaker. And sinse he wont get put higher in lineup because he isn't as good as the other choices and cant score and cant play with 4th liners what is there left but pb till they let him go in the summer. After 108 games on 4th line Appleton will be light years ahead of petan.
 

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Anyone has a right to not be happy about the performance last night. A win is a win and I’ll gladly take it but I’d still rather see a performance that would give us some comfort that it would lead to future success. This team still gives up too many shots and while they have been capitalizing on their grade A chances, not enough of them are being generated. And any game that gives Maurice a reason to keep Morrow or Chiarot in the lineup is ultimately a bad thing for this team’s long term success.
This. Although, you and me have different takes on this. For a long time what this team was lacking was great goaltending. This game showed that Helly is slowly rounding into last year's form. So now we just need a healthy Buff and Ehlers and this is a very positive sign.
 
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Invisible except for mostly on the PP is still not doing much. He can bring a lot more.
He can and he will

He was the 4th leading scoring at 19 years old with that intest series against Nashville.
He was behind The 3 leaders Schiefele Wheeler and Stastny in points.

He can say he moved that monkey off the franchise back by scoring that tying goal against Minnesota.
Everybody could feel the team was realing and choking before that.
I can say also all that free airspaxe for Scheifele on the power play was because of double coverage for Laine.

The concern i have is we crapped on Laine so much but not the others. Maybe reason why Laine fans come out to rebutt.
He is struggling now sure. But in the playoff he was key contributors at many key times.

Heck Stastny goal on that late game against the pred series was a Laine top corner shot that glanced of his glove..


Well for sure many wont be happy anyways if Laine puts in less than 44 goals this year :)

If going to enjoy all the Jets players while we have them. It beats cheering for the russian line or gst...
 
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Even though i would like the Jets to play a complete game all the time , the fact that this team can still win games by only playing 1 good period is pretty good . No Ehlers , no Buff , back to back on the road in a barn we haven't had much success , and no Laine right now , pretty awesome we are still picking up wins . :thumbu:
 
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Sometimes I wonder if Laine scored a hat trick in every game and the Jets lost 5-4 ... would people be happier on HF?:huh:
Only Calgary has more wins (8) than the Jets (7) in the last 10 games and the Jets are in first place with 2 stars out of the lineup ... what's to complain about?

Matthews has only scored 2 goals in his last 14 games ... players go through slumps especially the young ones ... RELAX!
 

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I remember Wheeler going through some absolutely remarkable slumps a few years ago. And he wasn’t 20.
 

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Cold takes that will look hot to many:

26 is playing awful. Even when not gassed.

29 should get some time with 55. Just to see.

I missed 83 last night. Wish they’d sat 70.
 
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2/3 of that game were awful to watch. the 3rd had some good moments. OT was ok.
Helle had 2 or 3 highlight reel saves.

the Laine conundrum continues. the lack of desire to shuffle him with a different centre is really frustrating.
Here's how I think they should shuffle the lines right now...

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Copp-Roslovic
Perreault-Little-Appleton
Lemieux-Lowry-Tanev

It takes away Maurice's favorite shut-down line, but gives more balance across the line-up and maybe he won't need to bench his second line.

I've often thought that they should try Copp with Laine. Copp is very good defensively, and he's fast and aggressive in the offensive zone. Roslovic provides some creativity and more speed.

Perreault and Little are complementary.

Lemieux has played well enough to get a look with Lowry and Tanev. He's a net crasher with some hands and a shot, which is how that line scores anyway.
 

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Here's how I think they should shuffle the lines right now...

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Copp-Roslovic
Perreault-Little-Appleton
Lemieux-Lowry-Tanev

It takes away Maurice's favorite shut-down line, but gives more balance across the line-up and maybe he won't need to bench his second line.

I've often thought that they should try Copp with Laine. Copp is very good defensively, and he's fast and aggressive in the offensive zone. Roslovic provides some creativity and more speed.

Perreault and Little are complementary.

Lemieux has played well enough to get a look with Lowry and Tanev. He's a net crasher with some hands and a shot, which is how that line scores anyway.
This is an interesting thought. If Copp can pull it off I'll pull back from my belief we need to add a forward or 2 at the TD.
 

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Here's how I think they should shuffle the lines right now...

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Copp-Roslovic
Perreault-Little-Appleton
Lemieux-Lowry-Tanev

It takes away Maurice's favorite shut-down line, but gives more balance across the line-up and maybe he won't need to bench his second line.

I've often thought that they should try Copp with Laine. Copp is very good defensively, and he's fast and aggressive in the offensive zone. Roslovic provides some creativity and more speed.

Perreault and Little are complementary.

Lemieux has played well enough to get a look with Lowry and Tanev. He's a net crasher with some hands and a shot, which is how that line scores anyway.
How does the line up change once Ehlers gets back? Does it become PLR or does Roslo keep Petan company while they exchange stories about how unbelievable they were with the Moose.
 

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Anyone has a right to not be happy about the performance last night. A win is a win and I’ll gladly take it but I’d still rather see a performance that would give us some comfort that it would lead to future success. This team still gives up too many shots and while they have been capitalizing on their grade A chances, not enough of them are being generated. And any game that gives Maurice a reason to keep Morrow or Chiarot in the lineup is ultimately a bad thing for this team’s long term success.
The Jets are missing two of their most important players in zone exits, who are also key for generating offense. There's a reason that they are getting buried in their own zone at times and look a bit stale on offense. They've had to rely on good goaltending, and generally good defensive structure at times with two top players out.

I do have concerns with the ineffectiveness of the Little/Laine combination. I think they need to come up with a new concept for their line combinations. To begin, I'd play Laine with Copp at C. I proposed that last season, too. I just think that Copp is more of a physical force with his size and speed, which creates more puck possession.
 

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This is an interesting thought. If Copp can pull it off I'll pull back from my belief we need to add a forward or 2 at the TD.
At the very least, I think Copp will be better at tilting the ice and getting the puck into the offensive zone. He's not terrible offensively, and Roslovic and Laine should have enough offensive talent between them to generate things. What's most frustrating is to watch shift after shift in the Jets' zone. Copp is our best C at defending and getting the puck moving the other way.

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How does the line up change once Ehlers gets back? Does it become PLR or does Roslo keep Petan company while they exchange stories about how unbelievable they were with the Moose.

Hmmm...

Maybe,

Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Little-Appleton
Laine-Copp-Roslovic
Perreault-Lowry-Tanev
 

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Its hard to criticize the Bruins because they're almost always a good team, but man, did they ever **** that draft up. Imagine adding Barzal and Connor to that team.

Some people say that contributors here on HFJets aren’t smarter than many scouts.
I also remember many people here rejoicing that the Bruins were so stupid! They were right.
 

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Some people say that contributors here on HFJets aren’t smarter than many scouts.
I also remember many people here rejoicing that the Bruins were so stupid! They were right.
That was brain dead simple, though. Everyone knew the Bruins' messed up, including every other teams' scouts. Can you imagine how the Jets', Isles' and Sens' scouts and GMs were feeling when they saw the Bruins make those three picks? :huh::nod::vhappy:
 
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FWIW out here Ferraro was on TSN 1040 talking about the Jets game last night and was discussing Laine's poor play and added he thought the jets weren't all that impressive in that game.

Couldn't disagree more, as I posted yesterday, no Buff and Ehlers on aback to back is still superior performance.

For some reason I sense a lot of haters emerging after the all star break.....feels odd.
 
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FWIW out here Ferraro was on TSN 1040 talking about the Jets game last night and was discussing line's poor play and added he thought the jets weren't all that impressive in that game.

Couldn't disagree more, as I posted yesterday, no Buff and Ehlers on aback to back is still superior performance.

For some reason I sense a lot of haters emerging after the all star break.....feels odd.
I think everyone forgot how the Jets took out Vegas and the Preds before the break, without Ehlers and Buff and at the tail end of a grueling schedule.

I think the Jets are in the doldrums. Young players are feeling tired and sluggish, and older players are trying to get motivated when they've basically already clinched home ice for the first playoff round already.

It's a long season and it would be a mistake to read too much into individual or team performance over a mid-season stretch like this.
 

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I think everyone forgot how the Jets took out Vegas and the Preds before the break, without Ehlers and Buff and at the tail end of a grueling schedule.

I think the Jets are in the doldrums. Young players are feeling tired and sluggish, and older players are trying to get motivated when they've basically already clinched home ice for the first playoff round already.

It's a long season and it would be a mistake to read too much into individual or team performance over a mid-season stretch like this.


I think your spot on, one useful thing Ferraro did say was about the sluggishness around coming back from a break. The Jets were experiencing that in Philly.

I think the emergence of a real fourth line and Niku in the back is quite encouraging.
 

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At the very least, I think Copp will be better at tilting the ice and getting the puck into the offensive zone. He's not terrible offensively, and Roslovic and Laine should have enough offensive talent between them to generate things. What's most frustrating is to watch shift after shift in the Jets' zone. Copp is our best C at defending and getting the puck moving the other way.

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You could be right but i don't see enough offensive talent from Copp to be a 2nd line center , Copp is a good defensive forward though . Copp is also playing against the other teams 3rd and 4th lines alot and Little is playing against teams #1 and #2 lines , i don't think it's really fair to compare Little's and Copp's numbers defensively because of that .
 
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