Not What You WANT to Happen, What Do You THINK Will Happen With Marner?

[thusk]

M Chucky didn't find his game in Florida, he just kept going and reached more success with a better team. Willy and Hubes are very different players. Hubes is closer to Mitch, but even then its a very different story.

before florida 0.55 pts game
in florida 1,1 pts/ game

a better team, we talked about a team who was 1 game lost by pittsburgh vs chicago away to be out of playoff.

The biggest difference between calgary and florida or florida before maurice/ after is how he get his d more involve in the offensive end to create space for every foward in front. The foward are able to recognize the situation when a D step in and take his place in the defensive end and when they get caught out of position, they've got a goalie able to make key save. And they are more agressive on the forecheck too. It's the reason why their offensive move from 2.35 2020 to 2022 and raise at 3,07 since Maurice. That's create more space for everybody including depht player and everybody get involve vs leafs offensive who turn 3 guy who played most of the time at 3v5 because d stay static at the blue line or off the rush and pratically never involve ( except when they trailing late and absolutly need a goal)

huberdeau outside he's a better playmaker than shooter have nothing to compare with Marner. He's a pure offensive player who's care about 1 sideydyw2! of the ice, pretty inconsistant and taking a lot of shift off in the defensive. That's why he didn't had a pretty good relationship with Sutter who didn't really this. That part of huberdeau is much more closer of Nylander than Marner and it's not even close.

M Chucky didn't find his game in Florida, he just kept going and reached more success with a better team. Willy and Hubes are very different players. Hubes is closer to Mitch, but even then its a very different story.

before florida 0.55 pts game
in florida 1,1 pts/ game

a better team, we talked about a team who was 1 game lost by pittsburgh vs chicago away to be out of playoff. Maurice just find a way to get the best of his player come playoff and the biggest change he did is to get his d more involve in the offensive end. The foward are able to recognize the situation when a D step in and take his place in the defensive end and when they get caught out of position, they've got a goalie able to make key save. And they are more agressive on the forecheck too and the biggest reason why their offensive move from 2.35 2020 to 2022 and raise at 3,07 since Maurice. This way of playing don't only help panther core player to have succes but also help depht to produce and the pressure

huberdeau outside he's a better playmaker than shooter have nothing to compare with Marner. He's a pure offensive player who's care about 1 sideydyw2! of the ice, pretty inconsistant and taking a lot of shift off in the defensive. That's why he didn't had a pretty good relationship with Sutter who didn't really this. That part of huberdeau is much more closer of Nylander than Marner.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Id take just about any outcome other than running this back. I used to absolutely loathe Boston and Tampa and feel disdain towards the refs for not calling a clean enough game.

I've had a complete change of heart. This team can either become the bully, or continue to be the highest paid victims of the league. The core specifically have bad body language and have sad puppy dog eyes. I'm over it, no more excuses. If Marner is extended that is the most Corporate, soul-less, cowardly, gutless transaction.

"Oh so you're saying you can't win with Marner? How about Kadri/Kessel/Bozak?"

Yes I am saying that we can't win with Marner on this leafs core. Who cares what ex leafs are up to? How is Jack Campbell, Kapenan, Johnsson, Freddy Andersen, Bunting, Ritchie, Ilya Mikheyev, Engvall, etc.

 

[Notsince67]

I vote, leave this one and close the other.

Perhaps people have changed their minds?

So we're giving muligans now? Probably a good idea. Some Millennials needs a safe space to edit the certainty of their world view. Lets forget the implications that some were stupid for thinking that Marner could be back.

 

[Gary Nylund]

So we're giving muligans now? Probably a good idea. Some Millennials needs a safe space to edit the certainty of their world view. Lets forget the implications that some were stupid for thinking that Marner could be back.

And while we're at it, let's forget the implications that some were stupid for thinking that Marner could be traded despite having an NMC. Pretty weird calling people stupid for thinking that something that has happened many times before could possibly happen again but what can I say, Marner is like a holy relic to some people and common sense goes out the window.

Oh wait, I'm responding to one of them ... never mind.

 

[Notsince67]

And while we're at it, let's forget the implications that some were stupid for thinking that Marner could be traded despite having an NMC. Pretty weird calling people stupid for thinking that something that has happened many times before could possibly happen again but what can I say, Marner is like a holy relic to some people and common sense goes out the window.

Oh wait, I'm responding to one of them ... never mind.

I dont follow your logic. It is stupid to suggest a trade on the last year of a NMC entering into a UFA contract if the player wants to stay

 

[ACC1224]

So we're giving muligans now? Probably a good idea. Some Millennials needs a safe space to edit the certainty of their world view. Lets forget the implications that some were stupid for thinking that Marner could be back.

People are allowed to change their minds, nothing wrong with that.
Other thread is mostly just a bunch of childish, repetitive garbage.
I'm not hopeful but perhaps this thread won't evolve to that.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I dont follow your logic. It is stupid to suggest a trade on the last year of a NMC entering into a UFA contract if the player wants to stay

Try thinking about it for a little bit then. It's super simple and I'm sure you can figure out.

 

[thusk]

Watch how florida playing, watch how vegas, colorado, tampa played... All those team had something similar, their D are constantly involve in the offensive game.

The only time we saw Toronto playing with D involve is when they was trailing by couple of goal or trailing by 1 in 3 period. That's it.

You want to get the best of Marner, matthews and nylander, you need to find a way to create space and get d involve is one of the best way yo get it done. If you want to try playing with cycling at 3v5 all game long and taking shot from outside.. Will be hard to score whatever against who you're playing

fix the real problem if you want a real change.

 

[keonsbitterness]

I'm too important to vote in online polls, but I see it like this:

40% traded, 60% not traded. From the latter, 59% he gets extended, 1% he leaves for nothing.

 

[hullsy47]

Id take just about any outcome other than running this back. I used to absolutely loathe Boston and Tampa and feel disdain towards the refs for not calling a clean enough game.

I've had a complete change of heart. This team can either become the bully, or continue to be the highest paid victims of the league. The core specifically have bad body language and have sad puppy dog eyes. I'm over it, no more excuses. If Marner is extended that is the most Corporate, soul-less, cowardly, gutless transaction.

"Oh so you're saying you can't win with Marner? How about Kadri/Kessel/Bozak?"

Yes I am saying that we can't win with Marner on this leafs core. Who cares what ex leafs are up to? How is Jack Campbell, Kapenan, Johnsson, Freddy Andersen, Bunting, Ritchie, Ilya Mikheyev, Engvall, etc.

The problem now is ,how many free agents want to come here to be , "another savior ",,with the other 3 making more and havnt done jack shiti mean ,it's not my money just can't see this core ever duplicating mcdavid or hyman in their lives in the playoffs
We've seen this long enuff ,2 years from now their superstar status will be declining
Still stars but always in need of deadl8ne saviors or cheap bargain to come thru

 

[Steveei]

Cant see them walking away from Marner, too much talent. In my opinion he is re-signed and Tavares is not.

 

[Racer88]

They are paralyzed with fear about moving on from him so My gut feeling is they will sign him at some point.
The only thing I can hope is the team wait’s until after the playoffs next year. To sign him before that would be a major mistake and will screw this team for years to come

 

[LeafSteel]

They are paralyzed with fear about moving on from him so My gut feeling is they will sign him at some point.
The only thing I can hope is the team wait’s until after the playoffs next year. To sign him before that would be a major mistake and will screw this team for years to come

So, gutless management endorsing gutless players.

There’s a logic to it, but it’s pathetic and it’s why we will continue to achieve nothing with this group, from the top down.

 

[rumman]

So, gutless management endorsing gutless players.

There’s a logic to it, but it’s pathetic and it’s why we will continue to achieve nothing with this group, from the top down.

Jersey sales, Pelley was wrong, it actually is about jersey sales and season tickets..............

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Jersey sales, Pelley was wrong, it actually is about jersey sales and season tickets..............

Wrong is a polite way of saying lying.

 

[TGB]

He'll resign for big money because Toronto players always seem to find a way to wrangle the most money out of Maple Leafs GMs. Won't be paid more than Mathews.

 

[rumman]

Wrong is a polite way of saying lying.

We’ll soon find out if it was lip service or the truth, I’m heavily leaning towards lip service………

 

[PROUD PAPA]

He'll resign for big money because Toronto players always seem to find a way to wrangle the most money out of Maple Leafs GMs. Won't be paid more than Mathews.

Seems like they just have to ask politely.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Cant see them walking away from Marner, too much talent. In my opinion he is re-signed and Tavares is not.

Let’s see what kind of discount Tavares would be willing to take to keep his family here. If we can get him as low as 4 million sign me up. It’s not like we have a great new 2C waiting to replace him. People underestimate how hard it is to find good 2C’s, you often have to give up a bunch of great assets and 6+ million

 

[notDatsyuk]

Let’s see what kind of discount Tavares would be willing to take to keep his family here. If we can get him as low as 4 million sign me up. It’s not like we have a great new 2C waiting to replace him. People underestimate how hard it is to find good 2C’s, you often have to give up a bunch of great assets and 6+ million

We have what is probably a perfectly good 2C (40G, 58A) ready to play there when Tavares moves to 3C, either this year or next (if they re-sign him).

 

[Gilmour1996]

Summer training, Mitch-style vs. Max-style:

Max Domi not sipping mimosas on the beach, but in the gym, grinding this summer

Max Domi is displaying an incredible amount of work ethic and dedication this summer as he awaits a potential extension with the Maple Leafs.

www.mapleleafsdaily.com

 

[Byron Bitz]

We have what is probably a perfectly good 2C (40G, 58A) ready to play there when Tavares moves to 3C, either this year or next (if they re-sign him).

Right because Nylander has worked so well at center

 

[bax]

 

[notDatsyuk]

Right because Nylander has worked so well at center

He's never really been tried at centre with the Leafs because of Tavares, despite being drafted as a centre and playing everywhere else, including internationally, at centre.

 

[ACC1224]

Summer training, Mitch-style vs. Max-style:

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Max Domi not sipping mimosas on the beach, but in the gym, grinding this summer

Max Domi is displaying an incredible amount of work ethic and dedication this summer as he awaits a potential extension with the Maple Leafs.

www.mapleleafsdaily.com

Surprised something this dumb took this long to be posted. Place is slipping