Series Talk: North Division Round 1: Leafs (1) vs. Canadiens (4)

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No way. You roll with your #1 in the playoffs. Jack can handle it. Price will get both starts, you can bet on that. Campbell will too.

some of y'all are really galaxy braining this. It's a back to back. Fred will start.

CJ just said that some within the Leafs org believe Freddy has a higher ceiling than Jack. They clearly don't think of him as someone who's going to just ride the bench.
 
Kind of ridiculously unfair North teams have to play Back to Back... WTF is that?
 
some of y'all are really galaxy braining this. It's a back to back. Fred will start.

CJ just said that some within the Leafs org believe Freddy has a higher ceiling than Jack. They clearly don't think of him as someone who's going to just ride the bench.

Last year, there was a back-to-back against Columbus and Freddy started both of them. Why not Campbell here if he is playing well? Games are far too important.
 
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It puts the North at a disadvantage.

Not being argumentative here, can you explain how that is.

Otherwise I'm guessing the winner of the North is going to be at a big disadvantage once it starts to play other U.S. based division. Will that North team be allowed to play any home games or be forced to become a road team for the balance of the playoffs?
 
Last year, there was a back-to-back against Columbus and Freddy started both of them. Why not Campbell here if he is playing well? Games are far too important.

Because last year the alternative was Hutchinson....not Freddy. You may not agree with it but that's what is going to happen based on everything that's been reported.
 
Don’t care if it’s a back to back, you play Campbell in both.

I don’t think it’s that much to ask really. People make such a huge deal out of a goalie playing two games in a row. I mean c’mon, these guys are pros. They can handle it
 
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Just trying to help you avoid irrational fear!

Feel good! This is the first time we're the clearcut favorites in a series.
When you've been in nothing but abusive relationship after abusive relationship, it's not irrational to believe that the new guy you're with will eventually turn on you.
 
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Because last year the alternative was Hutchinson....not Freddy. You may not agree with it but that's what is going to happen based on everything that's been reported.

It was Campbell as the backup in the play-ins. So if the Leafs are up 2-1 with a chance to step on their throats and make 3-1, they will go with Freddie? Who only had 1 game in the NHL in a couple of months? That's stupid.
 
It was Campbell as the backup in the play-ins. So if the Leafs are up 2-1 with a chance to step on their throats and make 3-1, they will go with Freddie? Who only had 1 game in the NHL in a couple of months? That's stupid.

Oops, that's my bad. Was Campbell, you're right. I'm not saying I disagree with you, but clearly the organization and fans have differing opinions on how to use Freddy. They wouldn't have given him a start yesterday if they didn't.
 
Not being argumentative here, can you explain how that is.

Otherwise I'm guessing the winner of the North is going to be at a big disadvantage once it starts to play other U.S. based division. Will that North team be allowed to play any home games or be forced to become a road team for the balance of the playoffs?

This could be a rough series, I think were more likely to wind up with injuries in a back to back. Even if no one gets an injury it could lead to be being more banged up. Hopefully it doesn't matter and I'm just being overly annoyed.
 
Don’t care if it’s a back to back, you play Campbell in both.

I don’t think it’s that much to ask really. People make such a huge deal out of a goalie playing two games in a row. I mean c’mon, these guys are pros. They can handle it

Why goalies should never play back-to-back

It's been proven statistically that goalies perform worse tired, not to mention the injury risk.
 
Oops, that's my bad. Was Campbell, you're right. I'm not saying I disagree with you, but clearly the organization and fans have differing opinions on how to use Freddy. They wouldn't have given him a start yesterday if they didn't.

If he wasn't going to be backup why would they even activate him off LTIR. We could have used the cap space to rest players.
 
Because last year the alternative was Hutchinson....not Freddy. You may not agree with it but that's what is going to happen based on everything that's been reported.
Last year it was Campbell. Hutchinson was with Colorado, not only that - he played in the actual playoffs (not playins) and went 2W 1L vs. Dallas
 
price also will have not played a real game in exactly a month when game 1 starts(injured april 19th)i think this is a campbell vs allen series, and i believe its a tossup...allen has more experience in the playoffs but has always seemed to struggle more when called upon as the clear cut number one for a team. should be an interesting battle.

edit: i mean the goaltending battle, i picked leafs in 5.

I'd take that match up all day any day.

Jack Campbell - 2.11 GAA good for 6th best
Jack Campbell - 0.923 SV% good for 7th (tied) - 0.929 is 2nd . 06 is a rounding error difference.

Jake Allen - 2.68 GAA (26th)
Jake Allen - 0.907 SV% (30th)
 
Is it just me or is anyone else a little worried about the reffing?

If it’s fair I’d say Leafs in 5, but I can also see the refs hand the habs an extra win

Always worried about the reffing, Gallagher, Perry and Andersen are world class and I mean the best of the best divers.

This whole Bettmanagement reffing, control the game s#it that has been going on needs to stop, if we suck and we are tugging and hooking, then give us 20 PIMs each game, if we are good and the other team needs to hook us , throw them in the sin bin. I have zero problem with an honest game. If my team deserves to be in the box, they deserve to be in the box.

This is how you can tell that reffing is biased, look at teams who control the puck a lot, those team should be drawing more PIMs and giving up less PP opportunities, solely because they have the puck more, short of throwing's picks / interfering, teams who have the puck generally don't take PIM's.

Caufield has 4 goals in 6 games, that guy could tip the series.
 
I'd take that match up all day any day.

Jack Campbell - 2.11 GAA good for 6th best
Jack Campbell - 0.923 SV% good for 7th (tied) - 0.929 is 2nd . 06 is a rounding error difference.

Jake Allen - 2.68 GAA (26th)
Jake Allen - 0.907 SV% (30th)
.06 is nothing like a rounding error. Varlamov is the guy in 2nd at .929, in order to drop his average down to .923 he would have needed to give up 7 more goals on the same number of shots in his 35 starts. Or conversely, be scored on 7 straight times in his next start without making a save.

Campbell has been great, not arguing that, I just wanted to point that out.
 
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Yeah, I'm worried about reffing. Not the game management angle, even though that's dumb, but first round reffing is always wildly inconsistent across series depending on the refs you get. Usually by the second round it evens out but some guys just completely put the whistle away in the first round.

If we end up in a series like that the slow, plodding Habs D that our forwards can exploit all of the sudden turn into world beaters.
 
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