Value of: Noah Hanifin

[Tkachuk Norris]

I’d bet anything he doesn’t. Top 10 (recent) drafted prospects don’t get traded for defensive defensemen, ever. Lindholm got less and that was with retention.

Defensive defencemen that’s top 30ish in scoring among defencemen the last 3 years…

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Yeah that’s the template.

Vaakaneinen was still a prospect, but the shine had worn off. It was clear that he was moving towards being a soft puck moving D without any offense as his ceiling. So 2nd pairing at best, but probably bottom pairing.

And a 1st and a 2nd. And that was at 50% retention.

Maybe you can upgrade the prospect some and get rid of the 2nd, but still not a top prospect.

I think the big X factor with Hanifin, obviously, is who is on his list of teams he wants to re-sign with and if it’s limited or pretty open.

The X factor is how much interest there will be. Every competing team in the league seems to want to upgrade their defense this season except Vegas and probably Colorado. So if the demand for a top pairing puck moving defenseman is really high his return will follow suit. Like every deadline players tend to go to the highest bidder

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Hanifin will get a 1st+B prospect+2nd as a pending UFA.

From Detroit I would offer 1st 2024, Berggren, Maatta/Holl (just to open a roster spot), one of Wallinder or Johansson, and a 2nd if he came with an extension.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I don't see a possibility of Dvorsky or Snuggerud being in play for any trades. Bolduc (17th overall in 2021) is most likely the prospect who gets traded in any trade for a defenseman.

 

[Irie]

Totally depends on if he is willing to extend and what that extension looks like.

These offers are all based on him extending, and I am assuming posters are expecting him to extend with a reasonable contract, but Hanifin may be looking to cash in on the UFA market, in which case there would be no extension, or the extension may severely limit his value.

 

[wintersej]

The X factor is how much interest there will be. Every competing team in the league seems to want to upgrade their defense this season except Vegas and probably Colorado. So if the demand for a top pairing puck moving defenseman is really high his return will follow suit. Like every deadline players tend to go to the highest bidder

Oh totally and every deadline and player is different. But that’s the closest recent example.

I know Toronto radio had mentioned that teams were wary of offering big deals because there is a sense he wants to come
home to Boston. Of course that could be bogus and I don’t want to sound like a MTL fan with Dubois, but that kind of stuff could effect the size of the market, too.

Totally depends on if he is willing to extend and what that extension looks like.

These offers are all based on him extending, and I am assuming posters are expecting him to extend with a reasonable contract, but Hanifin may be looking to cash in on the UFA market, in which case there would be no extension, or the extension may severely limit his value.

I do wonder if because the cap is jumping up so much if more of the UFAs make it there to see if they can reset the market.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Oh totally and every deadline and player is different. But that’s the closest recent example.

I know Toronto radio had mentioned that teams were wary of offering big deals because there is a sense he wants to come
home to Boston. Of course that could be bogus and I don’t want to sound like a MTL fan with Dubois, but that kind of stuff could effect the size of the market, too.



I do wonder if because the cap is jumping up so much if more of the UFAs make it there to see if they can reset the market.

Calgary isn't going to block teams from negotiating with him. He was nearly signed to an extension in Calgary a month and a half ago so I highly doubt it's Boston or no where for him. In fact I'm fairly confident he ends up in Dallas as they have the biggest need for a top pairing dman

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Would love him on the island but idk how to make it work cap wise

 

[Bounces R Way]

If you use the search function, this has been a oft discussed player and value

If you use the search function, you can find out that the last Value of : Noah Hanifin thread was created in 2021. Surely his value has changed some since then.

 

[oceanchild]

If you use the search function, you can find out that the last Value of : Noah Hanifin thread was created in 2021. Surely his value has changed some since then.

Plenty of Calgary wants to sell everything and a whole novels worth of discussion on his value. I question your ability to search. Openly !

 

[oceanchild]

If you use the search function, you can find out that the last Value of : Noah Hanifin thread was created in 2021. Surely his value has changed some since then.

Sportsnet: - Hanifin drawing attention

Per Friedman. Says with a thin amount of d in free agency teams are looking at Hanifin.

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Dreger: - Islanders interested in Hanifin

Just said on the Leafs - Kraken TSN pre-game that the Islanders are interested in Hanifin and Hanifin might get the extension he wants that way.

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Speculation: - Hanifin to Nashville

Rumours around the Flames social media community, that NAS and CGY have engaged in talks about Hanifin and are perhaps even further along than just preliminary poking around. Guy who is putting this information out, broke the Toffoli trade on Flames X (Twitter) prior to it happening. I haven't...

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You can find the rest yourself

 

[FLAMESFAN]

I'd take that Det offer way before the StL offer

But is there anyway we can take Krug's contract back and then have the Blues add DD/JS?

 

[Bounces R Way]

Plenty of Calgary wants to sell everything and a whole novels worth of discussion on his value. I question your ability to search. Openly !

Sportsnet: - Hanifin drawing attention

Per Friedman. Says with a thin amount of d in free agency teams are looking at Hanifin.

forums.hfboards.com

Dreger: - Islanders interested in Hanifin

Just said on the Leafs - Kraken TSN pre-game that the Islanders are interested in Hanifin and Hanifin might get the extension he wants that way.

forums.hfboards.com

Speculation: - Hanifin to Nashville

Rumours around the Flames social media community, that NAS and CGY have engaged in talks about Hanifin and are perhaps even further along than just preliminary poking around. Guy who is putting this information out, broke the Toffoli trade on Flames X (Twitter) prior to it happening. I haven't...

forums.hfboards.com

You can find the rest yourself

what do you care? You paying for this site's bandwidth? You the Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Forum hall monitor or something ?

There's several threads 5 pages back saying Friedman thinks such and such team is interested in Hanifin. That's not the same thing as a discussion on what his value would be on the market.

 

[Some Other Flame]

He'll return a 1st at minimum. It's always funny when fans think they can get premium rentals or players at the deadline without that part.

After that it'll depend on whether he's a pure rental or he signs an extension. But you can take blue chip prospects off the table regardless; they're rarely if ever traded.

So at baseline, something like a 1st + B prospect + something else. Without an extension that something could be anything from nothing to a mid round pick. With an extension, maybe it turns into a young roster with high potential or another high pick.

 

[Celtic Note]

I'd take that Det offer way before the StL offer

But is there anyway we can take Krug's contract back and then have the Blues add DD/JS?

The Blues are rebuilding, why trade their one
of thier top two prospects for Hanifin?

 

[Linkens Mastery]

I'd take that Det offer way before the StL offer

But is there anyway we can take Krug's contract back and then have the Blues add DD/JS?

There is no universe where I would pay Dvorsky or Snuggerud to move Krugs contract.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

Not sure wings wanna be trading 1st rounders and prospects just yet. I like Hanifin, but LHD prospect pool is so deep.
Would he play on the 3rd pairing behind Walman, Edvinsson?

 

[RedHawkDown]

Anyways, Hanifin is better than every D on Detroit except Seider, so he’d be perfect on the second pairing once Ed is up. A long term top 4 of

Ed-Seider
Hanifin-ASP

Could challenge for best in the league

 

[seafoam]

….ok then ^

Anyways, Hanifin is better than every D on Detroit except Seider, so he’d be perfect on the second pairing once Ed is up. A long term top 4 of

Ed-Seider
Hanifin-ASP

Could challenge for best in the league

You'd pair Hanifin with Mo, Ed would be second pairing.

 

[rt]

To CAR
Vejmelka
FLA ‘24 2nd

To ARI
Raanta
CAR ‘24 1st

—-

To CGY
CAR ‘24 1st
EDM ‘24 3rd
EDM ‘25 2nd

To ARI
Hanifin (8yrs, 60mil)

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

I really do think Arizona is the perfect spot for Hanifin. They really do need to make the playoffs and show their fans they are trying to compete.

 

[Some Other Flame]

To CAR
Vejmelka
FLA ‘24 2nd

To ARI
Raanta
CAR ‘24 1st

—-

To CGY
CAR ‘24 1st
EDM ‘24 3rd
EDM ‘25 2nd

To ARI
Hanifin (8yrs, 60mil)

Add Soderstrom or an equivalent B level prospect to Calgary and I'd do it

 

[BleedBlue14]

You do realize he’s a 26 year old top pair D right? He’s also had a very good season to this point. And he never gets injured.

With an extension in place he easily gets a top prospect in return. The guy likely ends up playing 1500+ games in his career with the way he skates.

You do realize prospects like Snuggerud and Dvorsky are never traded this soon after their draft year right?

 

[rt]

Add Soderstrom or an equivalent B level prospect to Calgary and I'd do it

On top of a 1st, 2nd and 3rd? Chychrun was younger and signed to a much cheaper deal when he was traded last season. I don’t think there’s much chance Hanifin gets a bigger package in return.

 

[Xerloris]

I'd take that Det offer way before the StL offer

But is there anyway we can take Krug's contract back and then have the Blues add DD/JS?

There no no way the Blues trade either of those players.