Proposal: Noah Cates to the Leafs

[Curufinwe]

I think Laughton's grit makes him the more attractive option. I can see him being a real plus in the play offs

He's not really gritty, or good defensively anymore. The Flyers play him at wing because of this.

But the Flyers management would rather die than trade Cates. He's probably getting a $40m extension soon.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I did read; the post didn't indicate affiliation. I just mistakenly presumed that "big market team trying to poach a rebuilder's good prospect" was more likely than "rebuilding team with an excellent player attempts to trade that player away". Should've looked more closely.

In my partial defense I was paying more attention to the Stadium Series reveal and so was posting distracted. Let my f***up be a lesson to others.

Flyers need more shots at high end talent. Desperately lacking that in the pool.

Leafs are going to take Cates and make Mexico pay for him.

lmao

say its game 7 rd 1, 1 min left and you're tied and you need a hard nosed 3c, and you got Cates and Laughton on the bench, who you tapping to jump over the boards?

Cates, definitely.

I think Laughton's grit makes him the more attractive option. I can see him being a real plus in the play offs

Cates is more effective because he's more cerebral with his play. Laughts if you want the rah-rah, good locker room guy. Cates more likely to be the guy who makes a deft poke check on Mcdavid to clear the zone. Laughts will bring energy, but Cates more in the way of substance and actual outcome on the game IMO

 

[I am Canadian]

I would give up a 1st + another prospect outside of Minten or Cowan.

Tampa paid 2x 1st and 2x 4ths for Brayden Hagel. This package (Cowan + 1st) from the Leafs is comparable if not better imo and Hagel was both younger, better and on a better contract (position considered as well) compared to Cates at current time.

 

[Viqsi]

Flyers need more shots at high end talent. Desperately lacking that in the pool.

Generally the only way you get those is by being lucky.

Yes, you have to be lucky to get the opportunity to be lucky. It sucks sometimes.

 

[Edgelord]

Flyers need more shots at high end talent. Desperately lacking that in the pool.


lmao


Cates, definitely.


Cates is more effective because he's more cerebral with his play. Laughts if you want the rah-rah, good locker room guy. Cates more likely to be the guy who makes a deft poke check on Mcdavid to clear the zone. Laughts will bring energy, but Cates more in the way of substance and actual outcome on the game IMO

TBH either 1 would be a great add, but I wonder if the fact Cates is American and the fact Laughton is Canadian and more likely to be ok playing in Canada comes into play.

Generally the only way you get those is by being lucky.

Yes, you have to be lucky to get the opportunity to be lucky. It sucks sometimes.

They have 3 1sts and 3 2nd's in this draft, needless to say they can have any player they want in this draft with that asset set. I bet 1st OA would trade for 3 1sts.

 

[FlyguyOX]

TBH either 1 would be a great add, but I wonder if the fact Cates is American and the fact Laughton is Canadian and more likely to be ok playing in Canada comes into play.

Highly doubt that's any sort of consideration. Probably moreso revolves around age.

 

[Edgelord]

Highly doubt that's any sort of consideration. Probably moreso revolves around age.

Well I hope our GM's are at least discussing potential trades.

 

[Adam da bomb]

TBH either 1 would be a great add, but I wonder if the fact Cates is American and the fact Laughton is Canadian and more likely to be ok playing in Canada comes into play.


They have 3 1sts and 3 2nd's in this draft, needless to say they can have any player they want in this draft with that asset set. I bet 1st OA would trade for 3 1sts.

I doubt anyone is trading 10a for 3 1sts if they are late firsts. Chances of hitting on a first liner in the end of the first round is much harder never mind a star player. Most of the league's best players are drafted in the top 5.

 

[Funk21]

Seems pretty steep for a guy who is on pace for 40 points

Does he project to be a 2C? If so then a 1st and Cowan would be worth while. Look he is on a terrible team so I take his point production with a grain of salt. Especially if he takes care of the defensive side of things.

 

[Viqsi]

They have 3 1sts and 3 2nd's in this draft, needless to say they can have any player they want in this draft with that asset set. I bet 1st OA would trade for 3 1sts.

It doesn't. Trust me.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Ummmm...Flyguy isn't Leafguy...

As for the actual proposal, Leafs fans think Cowan is a bonafide superstar so I don't see him being the prospect included

No, I don't. Neither do most other fans of the team. Most people think that his potential is top 6. He is a good prospect.

 

[Hockeypete49]

Cates is not being shopped period.

 

[ponder719]

They have 3 1sts and 3 2nd's in this draft, needless to say they can have any player they want in this draft with that asset set. I bet 1st OA would trade for 3 1sts.

If those three firsts were 3, 4, and 10, I could see it. If they're 18, 20, and 23, not a chance in hell.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

1st + Cowan? for Cates? No Thanks and I like Cates. but not at that price, no f***ing thank you

 

[SnS]

Cates is not being shopped period.

He should be.

 

[T_Cage]

I do agree cates price is a 1st+, but Cowan is not that plus

 

[izzy]

I would give up a 1st + another prospect outside of Minten or Cowan.

Tampa paid 2x 1st and 2x 4ths for Brayden Hagel. This package from the Leafs is comparable if not better imo and Hagel was both younger, better and on a better contract (position considered as well) compared to Cates at current time.

That package is better how? Niemela is worth more than a 1st and two 4ths?

 

[I am Canadian]

That package is better how? Niemela is worth more than a 1st and two 4ths?

Sorry, referring to OP's post of Cowan + 1st

 

[FlyguyOX]

I do agree cates price is a 1st+, but Cowan is not that plus

A 1st that’s not for next year but the one after and probably a late first has considerably less value IMO

 

[izzy]

Sorry, referring to OP's post of Cowan + 1st

Ok makes sense lol, i was about to faint

 

[Flyer lurker]

Flyers fans, you guys know Cates and Laughton better than other fans. So considering we need a left handed 3c who can play in a defensive system, is willing to play physical, help on the PK and potentially net front on PP2 and who can step in to play top 6 LW for stints.
Who fits better Cates or Laughton?

Cates has played fantastic the last 30-40 days. He is going nowhere but would be way better as a 3c option for Toronto. Laughton is not a 3c. He is a 3lw who could fill in at center in case of injury. A very effective 3lw this year but not a 3c on a final four cup challenger.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Flyers fans, you guys know Cates and Laughton better than other fans. So considering we need a left handed 3c who can play in a defensive system, is willing to play physical, help on the PK and potentially net front on PP2 and who can step in to play top 6 LW for stints.
Who fits better Cates or Laughton?

It’s cates. Laughton just doesn’t play the center position well.

 

[Schennanigans]

No way at that price.