Post-Game Talk: No post-game blues in St-Louis. Only hats, wings, and wins. Habs win 7-4

[FrankMTL]

MSL loves him and uses the heck out of him.
He is a vanilla player but last night he was instrumental in a very exciting win.

Yeah I know, he's effective and every team needs this type of player, but as a fan (and the entertainment value) I just find him so boring.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Let's get in as a Wild card and eliminate the Bruins!

Eliminate the Bruins and the Leafs and the Sens.

 

[26Mats]

You are correct about Harris, he wouldn’t have signed had Bergevin remained at the helm and given how prospects were handled at the time, who knows what other fallout there might have been: Canadiens: Jordan Harris Would've Walked If Bergevin Were In Charge

We know of at least another — Jordan Harris would forever have been known as « Josh »: Marc Bergevin didn't even call Jordan Harris by the right name

That article's source is grant McCagg, who himself said "he's heard that Harris wouldn't sign with MB, and if true ..."

This is still just a rumor then, no?

I think we officially out of Bedard sweepstakes

Unless there's a rash of injuries and/or Hughes starts trading vets like Dvo, Anderson, Monahan, Edfy, Savard, and Matheson. But hard to see Hughes doing that to a competitive team...

 

[FrankMTL]

Eliminate the Bruins and the Leafs and the Sens.

 

[Paddy17]

You're right, he is very vanilla. That being said, i think that could be considered a plus. He's one of those players that could end up being very adaptable/moldable to what is needed in specific situations...sort of a jack of all trades. We know what his offensive output is, mid-teen goals and about 30 range in points, and as such he can't be expected to lead the charge. IMO the perfect spot would be 3C as a mostly a defensive specialist but with some offensive flair.

Exactly. The problem with Dvo is not the player itself, but the expectations, depth chart above him, and expected role. As a 3C, he's great to have on the team. His salary isn't excessive either.

 

[the]

Bergevin when trying to remember who Harris is

 

[Habs10Habs]

I'd waive Dadonov, Drouin, or Hoffman before Pez personally.

Keep in mind, he was sitting for 8 games straight and doesn't have a ton of NHL experience to begin with. He was totally off to begin with. But he may be able to settle in. Ultimately, he brings some good things to the table. But if he can't cut down on the turnovers, which he also had a problem with last year, he clearly has no NHL future.

True, but he didn't show anything during training camp or the pre-season either. As I had mentioned earlier, I'm willing to give him a few games to shake the rust off.

 

[Redux91]

Just rewatching that Caufield powerplay goal that Suzuki set up. You can see the second Suzuki decides take it toward the net, Caufield starts rushing in. They are totally in sync with each other.

It's scary how good they are individually,
It's even scarier how good they are together
Its freaking icing on the cake they also happen to be BEST friends lol, thank God for that

 

[26Mats]

True, but he didn't show anything during training camp or the pre-season either. As I had mentioned earlier, I'm willing to give him a few games to shake the rust off.

If he can cut down on the turnovers, he definitely brings an element: energy and physicality, plus he can actually contribute offensively here and there.

It's scary how good they are individually,
It's even scarier how good they are together
Its freaking icing on the cake they also happen to be BEST friends lol, thank God for that

It will be interesting to see if Slaf becomes the 3rd wheel or is part of a much needed 2nd duo for a much needed 2nd scoring line... Same with Dach, and all our other offensive prospects on the way like Mesar, Beck, Farrell, Roy, and Heineman, lol.

 

[The Real Timo]

For those who want so sign Monahan, go check the Calgary board see how they're all subconsciously panicking at how doomed their cap situation and future really is, as Huberdeau is not delivering on its promise at age 30 on a 8 years 10.5M contract.

Holy shit do I rather avoid such situations.

MOneyhab is another 1st round pick... Habs could end up having 3 this year... wouldn't that be something.
Flames can suck it!

Eliminate the Bruins and the Leafs and the Sens.

All three at once. But Sens are not going to make it anyway... Leafs neither... I called it before the start of the season.

 

[Habs10Habs]

If he can cut down on the turnovers, he definitely brings an element: energy and physicality, plus he can actually contribute offensively here and there.

If he plays like he did last season. Yes I agree, he just hasn't shown it this year so far. @ChesterNimitz pointed out to me yesterday that he's slower and can't keep up. From what I've seen so far this year, I'd have to agree.

 

[Runner77]

That article's source is grant McCagg, who himself said "he's heard that Harris wouldn't sign with MB, and if true ..."

This is still just a rumor then, no?

I was waiting for someone to question the viability of the info cause McCagg is behind it and HF delivered, lol. I only used it cause it was the first to come up in a search but there is another: On connait maintenant la raison pour laquelle Jordan Harris ne trippait pas sur Marc Bergevin

Lefrançois shows that that was a communication problem between Habs senior management and Harris. You also have to take into account the incitement that came from Hughes’ personal connection with Harris, which no one in the Bergevin regime possessed — which, no doubt, helped seal the deal but I would argue that no other factor would have been as overwhelming as Bergevin.

A major element was that there was very little contact between Bergevin and Harris, as independently confirmed here, without it being sourced to the abhorrent McCagg, of whom I am not a fan either:

 

[Redux91]

Quick Face off numbers from last night :
Dvorak 11 W 4 L
Suzuki 9 W 7 L
Monahan 4 W 7 L
Evan's with a nasty 1 W 10 L, shake it off kid lol
Dach 2 W 0 L
And Slaf 1 W 0 L lol

 

[xX SEYF Xx]

And this... this is called happiness!!

 

[Redux91]

Frankly...it's tougher to get Kovacevic out of the lineup than Wideman right now.

Harris 2A +3
Kovasevic +3, 2 Hits, team high 5 Takeaways

2 rookies, and playing 2nd pairing minutes lol
The only thing more impressive is the 20 yr old rookie playing LD1 role/minutes the first 10 games of his career lmao
(And that's without mentioning Xhekaj who is clearly apart of the future too)

But honestly, du jamais vue for me, never seen anything like this many kids on an NHL blue line, it's been a lot of fun

 

[Habby4Life]

Caufield fell into the Habs' lap, it was well noted at the time.

If you want credit for a successful reach then Romanov was a very good draft pick, out of nowhere. Caufield, not so much.

Haha, more nonsense.

Teams passed on Caufield but MB and TT selected him despite what other teams concerns may have been. I get the dislike for MB but making shit up is weak and lame.

 

[LaP]

I was waiting for someone to question the viability of the info cause McCagg is behind it and HF delivered, lol. I only used it cause it was the first to come up in a search but there is another: On connait maintenant la raison pour laquelle Jordan Harris ne trippait pas sur Marc Bergevin

Lefrançois shows that that was a communication problem between Habs senior management and Harris. You also have to take into account the incitement that came from Hughes’ personal connection with Harris, which no one in the Bergevin regime possessed — which, no doubt, helped seal the deal but I would argue that no other factor would have been as overwhelming as Bergevin.

A major element was that there was very little contact between Bergevin and Harris, as independently confirmed here, without it being sourced to the abhorrent McCagg, of whom I am not a fan either:

Did not the same thing happened with Markov and Radulov. There was many rumours about them not having many discussions with MB and that they received a take it or leave it offer and that was it.

 

[LaP]

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As I said before season started I expect lots of points distribution with the division this year - Bruins will come back to the herd as they start playing more divisional games

Habs will finish 11-17 OA

I don't see any reality where habs finish 11 overall. The team is currently 15th ex-aequo with TB and this is after two wins and a good start. Only way this team finish over 18th is if the goalies keep playing like real number 1 which should not be expected past December. Like i always say don't evaluate when things are going well.

 

[26Mats]

I was waiting for someone to question the viability of the info cause McCagg is behind it and HF delivered, lol. I only used it cause it was the first to come up in a search but there is another: On connait maintenant la raison pour laquelle Jordan Harris ne trippait pas sur Marc Bergevin

Lefrançois shows that that was a communication problem between Habs senior management and Harris. You also have to take into account the incitement that came from Hughes’ personal connection with Harris, which no one in the Bergevin regime possessed — which, no doubt, helped seal the deal but I would argue that no other factor would have been as overwhelming as Bergevin.

A major element was that there was very little contact between Bergevin and Harris, as independently confirmed here, without it being sourced to the abhorrent McCagg, of whom I am not a fan either:

I mean I had heard the not knowing his name and lack of commication, but that doesn't mean Harris wouldn't have signed anyways. None of the other college prospects we drafted under MB didn't sign, and presumably he used the same communication style.

 

[Runner77]

Did not the same thing happened with Markov and Radulov. There was many rumours about them not having many discussions with MB and that they received a take it or leave it offer and that was it.

That’s what Cantin dubbed as the old school approach, except that’s a lot more reminiscent of the wooly, baggy pants, cigar-chomping era than 10 years ago.

I mean I had heard the not knowing his name and lack of commication, but that doesn't mean Harris wouldn't have signed anyways. None of the other college prospects we drafted under MB didn't sign, and presumably he used the same communication style.

Don’t know about the others, all the links I posted are specifically about how Harris was handled and where it was headed under Bergevin.

 

[Runner77]

I don't see any reality where habs finish 11 overall. The team is currently 15th ex-aequo with TB and this is after two wins and a good start. Only way this team finish over 18th is if the goalies keep playing like real number 1 which should not be expected past December. Like i always say don't evaluate when things are going well.

A preferred, first evaluative cutoff date is US Thanksgiving, rightly or not.

 

[LaP]

Are you implying that if the Habs were to sign Monahan that it would be an 8 year 8M type contract????
First I have heard anything remotely close to that on here when talking about keeping Monahan.
And you better believe that the second Hughes and Gorton feel this team is close, they will be cashing in to land big fish. They have already alluded to this in interviews. (and Monahan is not a big fish)
There are times you sell assets and there are times you acquire.

The best way to acquire the big fish is to have many disposable good prospects. And having lot of first round picks is a way to get into that position.

A preferred, first evaluative cutoff date is US Thanksgiving, rightly or not.

Yesh but historically the part of the year where good teams and good players start firing all playoffs cylinders is end of December. This is where the Chris Kontos and Dale Weise of this world totally disappear from the radar.

 

[peate]

And the Leafs lose. What more do you want on a Saturday night?

Margot Robbie and scarlett johansson

 

[GHJimmy]

What a night, I remember laughing at my friend (leaf fan) when we watched both games, he left when I went to use the bathroom lol

EDIT:
Slafkovsky was great, showed why he was picked 1st overall

 

[morhilane]

Yesh but historically the part of the year where good teams and good players start firing all playoffs cylinders is end of December. This is where the Chris Kontos and Dale Weise of this world totally disappear from the radar.

Players yes, but the standings, or more precisely the playoffs and non-playoffs teams, are basically locked by end of November. Back in 2017, someone did the math to cover all the the cap era years and statistically 77.8% of the playoffs teams are decided by November 30th. So 12 on 16. I can't find the actual math, I only found an article that refers to it.

Jason Paul has a nice graph on twitter to show what the current standings looks like. The Atlantic is basically a black hole a bit over .500 with all the teams but Bruin stuck in its event horizon, but it's not the case for the other divisions. The next month will show the division trend and they won't change until the season ends.