Confirmed Trade: [NJD/CGY] Jacob Markstrom for Kevin Bahl, 2025 1st round pick (top 10 protected); Flames retain 31.25%

[A1LeafNation]

Hopefully sounds like ownership is okay with rebuilding.

Full on rebuild. Bottom 10 team that traded away a top 6 C, top 4 D, and a starting goalie.

Andersson and Kadri probably next.

 

[gach]

A 2nd and a crap prospect is effectively what Markstrom was traded for. There isn't much of a difference in value between a 2024 2nd and a 2025 1st, especially with how good the Devils look they'll be next year.

In your mind it's a second but in reality it's a first

 

[Haatley]

As long as you overlook that he plays like he is 5'10" and has a low HIQ, you'll love him.

He was second on the Devils in hits. Feel like Devil fans are downplaying his physicality.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Goalies have little value. A strong return.

 

[Double Dion]

I love how you keep making this baseless statement lol

Well, I'm going by statements from you guys from last season where you had Hughes higher than Nemec. So no, it's not baseless. It's based on statements from your fanbase.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Pretty fair value all things considered. Bahl isn't nothing but NJ has no need for bottom pairing guys, and that 1st will almost certainly be in the 20s next year.

Devils are picking 10th this year, have been over a .500 PT% once in the Hughes era but yeah sure “almost certainly” in the 20s. I admire the optimism.

 

[sergejean]

Good grab for NJ. They have to make it back to the playoffs next season and their main issue was in net. They give up what should end up being a latish 1st and a meh bottom pairing defensman.

 

[TFHockey]

Getting a 1st, even top 10 protected one, AND with 31% retention AND a prospect this still has to be a win for Calgary, no?

 

[TrufleShufle]

Well, I'm going by statements from you guys from last season where you had Hughes higher than Nemec. So no, it's not baseless. It's based on statements from your fanbase.

You are basing it on information from before Nemac played and Luke was having an amazing time breaking into the NHL?

You guys said it was cold, you are so wrong. I'm basing that on what you said back in December.

 

[Double Dion]

Devils are picking 10th this year, have been over a .500 PT% once in the Hughes era but yeah sure “almost certainly” in the 20s. I admire the optimism.

I think they just addressed their biggest need and opened up a hole on D for a defensive guy in free agency. If they fill that hole I see no reason why they aren't a lock for a playoff spot next year.

 

[Saskatoon]

Getting a 1st, even top 10 protected one, AND with 31% retention AND a prospect this still has to be a win for Calgary, no?

The retention doesn't matter since it will be awhile before they are competitive again. I like it for Calgary.

 

[QuizGuy66]

*-just guessing haven't seen the return....

Okay actually this return is fine.


Calgary retaining salary for 2 years - not their usual MO

Doesn't hurt Devils future so all good.

 

[Bond]

Getting a 1st, even top 10 protected one, AND with 31% retention AND a prospect this still has to be a win for Calgary, no?

100%. The only people who are mad bought into the hype that Markstrom would inexplicably return a top ten pick.

 

[hidek91]

I think it's a bad deal for Devils, not entirely sold on 34 y. o. Markstrom and if he doesn't perform well, this pick could end up in teens again.

 

[Schennanigans]

I think it’s a good move for Calgary.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

lol “trust me, bro.”

its his mo

 

[Lunatik]

I love how you keep making this baseless statement lol

why do people keep responding to that poster? they're schtick is obvious.

 

[Baby Punisher]

It finally happened. The Devils are moving up in the world.

 

[Canovin]

I feel like this package could have gotten Saros

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

The guy you're posting with thinks nothing prospects and a 2nd has the same value as a 1st and NHL defenseman. Not much point in going round and round with someone like that.

Well tbf the devil's 2nd this year is very likely not far off from their 1st next year if they win a round or two in the playoffs or finish tops in their division and Bahl is not a high-end prospect.

You acted the same way in the Lindholm trade acting like you knew more than nuck fans about their own prospects.

 

[Double Dion]

Full on rebuild. Bottom 10 team that traded away a top 6 C, top 4 D, and a starting goalie.

Andersson and Kadri probably next.

We traded 3 top 4 D, not just one. I don't think Kadri is going anywhere. I think there's a chance Andersson will be, but not guaranteed.

why do people keep responding to that poster? they're schtick is obvious.

You're right. I'll stop.

 

[Frk It]

lol flames.
Better than nothing but man.

You got a 1st round pick for a 34 year old goalie who put up a .898 sv % over the last 2 seasons combined. You should be doing cartwheels.

Glad Detroit didn’t bite on this at this price.

 

[BKarchitect]

I feel like this package could have gotten Saros

Yeah, not a freaking chance.

 

[Figgy44]

Getting a 1st, even top 10 protected one, AND with 31% retention AND a prospect this still has to be a win for Calgary, no?

Anyone complaining is like someone complaining of a bellyache after wolfing down an ice cream sundae. No Flames fans would have believed he had that type of value at the beginning of this season. Good on Marky for bringing it back up.

I think it's a bad deal for Devils, not entirely sold on 34 y. o. Markstrom and if he doesn't perform well, this pick could end up in teens again.

Yeah. If that pick turns out in the teens, it's great. If somehow the injury bug devastates the Devils next season, Flames fans would be doing back flips and calling Conroy a genius for giving us an opportunity for a more amazing than expected pick late 20s '25 pick.

The projection of the '25 first is what's causing the crazy sway in value interpretation. IMO this is a good deal and I'm impressed that it is well framed as a good deal for the Devils too. Both team gets what they want and both teams banking on optimism going in their favor.

It also feels a little bit like how the Flames got first rounders that almost hedged against each other (Vancouver and Vegas).

 

[Neutrinos]

Flames have loads of cap space, why not retain 50% to maximize the return?

I mean, if you're Calgary's GM, why are you offering Markstrom at anything less than 50% retention?