A1LeafNation
Good, is simply not good enough!
- Oct 17, 2010
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Full on rebuild. Bottom 10 team that traded away a top 6 C, top 4 D, and a starting goalie.
Andersson and Kadri probably next.
Confirmed Trade: [NJD/CGY] Jacob Markstrom for Kevin Bahl, 2025 1st round pick (top 10 protected); Flames retain 31.25%
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Andersson and Kadri probably next.
gach
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In your mind it's a second but in reality it's a first
He was second on the Devils in hits. Feel like Devil fans are downplaying his physicality.
Well, I'm going by statements from you guys from last season where you had Hughes higher than Nemec. So no, it's not baseless. It's based on statements from your fanbase.
TheDoldrums
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Devils are picking 10th this year, have been over a .500 PT% once in the Hughes era but yeah sure “almost certainly” in the 20s. I admire the optimism.
Getting a 1st, even top 10 protected one, AND with 31% retention AND a prospect this still has to be a win for Calgary, no?
TrufleShufle
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You are basing it on information from before Nemac played and Luke was having an amazing time breaking into the NHL?
You guys said it was cold, you are so wrong. I'm basing that on what you said back in December.
I think they just addressed their biggest need and opened up a hole on D for a defensive guy in free agency. If they fill that hole I see no reason why they aren't a lock for a playoff spot next year.
The retention doesn't matter since it will be awhile before they are competitive again. I like it for Calgary.
Okay actually this return is fine.
Calgary retaining salary for 2 years - not their usual MO
Doesn't hurt Devils future so all good.
100%. The only people who are mad bought into the hype that Markstrom would inexplicably return a top ten pick.
hidek91
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I think it's a bad deal for Devils, not entirely sold on 34 y. o. Markstrom and if he doesn't perform well, this pick could end up in teens again.
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Nikishin Go Boom
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why do people keep responding to that poster? they're schtick is obvious.
Well tbf the devil's 2nd this year is very likely not far off from their 1st next year if they win a round or two in the playoffs or finish tops in their division and Bahl is not a high-end prospect.
You acted the same way in the Lindholm trade acting like you knew more than nuck fans about their own prospects.
We traded 3 top 4 D, not just one. I don't think Kadri is going anywhere. I think there's a chance Andersson will be, but not guaranteed.
You're right. I'll stop.
Frk It
Mo Seider Less Problems
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You got a 1st round pick for a 34 year old goalie who put up a .898 sv % over the last 2 seasons combined. You should be doing cartwheels.lol flames.
Better than nothing but man.
Glad Detroit didn’t bite on this at this price.
Figgy44
A toast of purple gato for the memories
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Anyone complaining is like someone complaining of a bellyache after wolfing down an ice cream sundae. No Flames fans would have believed he had that type of value at the beginning of this season. Good on Marky for bringing it back up.
Yeah. If that pick turns out in the teens, it's great. If somehow the injury bug devastates the Devils next season, Flames fans would be doing back flips and calling Conroy a genius for giving us an opportunity for a more amazing than expected pick late 20s '25 pick.
The projection of the '25 first is what's causing the crazy sway in value interpretation. IMO this is a good deal and I'm impressed that it is well framed as a good deal for the Devils too. Both team gets what they want and both teams banking on optimism going in their favor.
It also feels a little bit like how the Flames got first rounders that almost hedged against each other (Vancouver and Vegas).
