Confirmed Trade: [NJD/CGY] Jacob Markstrom for Kevin Bahl, 2025 1st round pick (top 10 protected); Flames retain 31.25%

[BHD]

That’s it? Maybe I’m underselling Bahl, but that seems less than expected.

 

[tmg]

I never understood the interest in Markstrom, going to turn 35 this year and based on his last two seasons has already started to decline.

If he declines from slightly above average starter to slightly below average starter over the course of the next two years, so be it. Will still be a massive improvement over where they were.

 

[seabass45]

I never understood the interest in Markstrom, going to turn 35 this year and based on his last two seasons has already started to decline.

Teams that should be contenders but aren’t in part due to goaltending are desperate.

 

[Haatley]

Bahl is a depth defenseman with extremely limited upside.

My comment was that Markstrom would return something like a 2nd (I was assuming a 2024 2nd) and a B level prospect. A 2025 1st and Bahl isn't different than that in value.

Bahl is a 23 year old, big bodied defenceman

He has played one full season, and you are saying he has no upside? Please share your expert scouting report.

 

[Canucks LB]

Seems like a fair deal for both sides

 

[General Fanager]

Markstrom and Allen is a really good pair for New Jersey. Big upgrade

 

[Voodoo Child]

I wasn't too far off...

 

[SI90]

devils needed to take a chance like this. Not bad for both sides

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Flames are committed to stay mid forever...nice

 

[madmike77]

Seems like a solid return for the Flames. Wasn’t expecting them to get a 1st. They’re loading up nicely on picks.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Where are all the Devils fans at that said Markstrom wasn’t worth this? The goaltending market is coming back to life.

Did the Devils give up 10OA, Holtz, Casey, Mercer or Nemec?? That's what some Flames fans thought they were getting. 2025 protected 1st and Bahl is a lot closer to what rational Devil fans were saying for Markstrom with retention.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Bahl is a 23 year old, big bodied defenceman

He has played one full season, and you are saying he has no upside? Please share your expert scouting report.

He's a big bodied defenseman who (according to Devils fans) doesn't use his size whatsoever.

I'm relying on what Devils fans have said about Bahl to say he's a marginal piece.

 

[Double Dion]

Bahl is a 23 year old, big bodied defenceman

He has played one full season, and you are saying he has no upside? Please share your expert scouting report.

The guy you're posting with thinks nothing prospects and a 2nd has the same value as a 1st and NHL defenseman. Not much point in going round and round with someone like that.

 

[Hunter368]

Cool for both sides, one goalie off the market for other teams in need.

 

[Forge]

Idk, seems like a solid deal for both? Goalies don't have the value that some homers think they have, but i think it's still a solid return for the Flames.

And obviously solid for Devils too with the retention.

It really is just a deal that makes sense for both. Doesn't really have to be more than that.

 

[HBK27]

Devils fans... tell me about Bahl please.

Big guy that doesn't use his size enough, but is good on the PK. Unfortunately, he regressed a bit last season but should be a solid bottom pairing NHL defenseman. Devils were looking for an upgrade at his position for this upcoming season, so not terribly surprising he was included in the deal. Will likely sign a UFA LD that can play the PK and have Hatakka as the 7th defenseman. Good chance they also go LD at the #10 spot in the draft if someone like Dickinson is available.

 

[Zbynek]

4.1 cap hit to boot? Beautiful work by Fitzgerald.

Dubas take notes.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Bahl is a depth defenseman with extremely limited upside.

My comment was that Markstrom would return something like a 2nd (I was assuming a 2024 2nd) and a B level prospect. A 2025 1st and Bahl isn't different than that in value.

Yah, because every draft has the same substance as every other draft, it's not like they differ from year to year.........

 

[TGWL]

That’s it? Maybe I’m underselling Bahl, but that seems less than expected.

It's a 1st and right now a potential bottom pair D should Bahl not get better. That's a pretty good trade for them. Markstrom is 34, signed 2 more years. They weren't going to get a killing on this trade.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The guy you're posting with thinks nothing prospects and a 2nd has the same value as a 1st and NHL defenseman. Not much point in going round and round with someone like that.

And you're the poster that said Markstrom would bring back Holtz and a 1st.

 

[Canovin]

Markstrom and Allen is a really good pair for New Jersey. Big upgrade

Devils have 2 years to find another goalie when Markstrom really falls off

 

[dgibb10]

He's a big bodied defenseman who (according to Devils fans) doesn't use his size whatsoever.

I'm relying on what Devils fans have said about Bahl to say he's a marginal piece.

Kills penalties, solid enough defensively.

Absolutely terrible discipline, can't stay out of the box.

Can't make a breakout pass to save his life

 

[Djp]

Hahaha

People thought NJ was trading their 10 OA. Instead itd top 10 protected next yr

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Flames are committed to stay mid forever...nice

I actually think this is the first real "tank" move the Flames have made in their history. They took an already poor roster and made it worse, and Vladar/Wolf doesn't exactly inspire a ton of confidence.

 

[Double Dion]

Did the Devils give up 10OA, Holtz, Casey, Mercer or Nemec?? That's what some Flames fans thought they were getting. 2025 protected 1st and Bahl is a lot closer to what rational Devil fans were saying for Markstrom with retention.

Who thought that? I said 1st and prospect. Nemec is vastly untouchable. I do think Holtz is a better add than Bahl would have been. I am not very high on Casey and prefer Bahl.