Speculation: NJ desperate for a high end 3c/decent 2c

[The don godfather]

does he? last time he was available he got traded for Erik Haula.



you hope the rapist comes back to the team? yikes.

We have some really weird fans.

That's cause the devils dumped him. Hes worth way more then haula now.

 

[Remparts666]

Ok , im sold on Evans . What’s the asking price?

I spoke to Kent and he said Gritsyuk and 5th rounder

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

What would the Devils offer for both Evans and Anderson?
* Evans with an extension (5x $3.5M)
* Anderson with 50% retention (2 more years at $2.75M)
* Habs can take back a contract dump (Haula maybe?)

I think these are the exact type of pieces the Devils are after.

we absolutely do not need Josh Anderson, even at 100% retained.

 

[BHD]

Yeah, Josh Anderson doesn't bring what the Devils don't already have.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I think Evans and NJ are a perfect fit idk if they need 2pker but Armia Evans is one of the best duo for PK atm. Both cheap contracts and ufa . Don't think habs would ask much

 

[olli]

How about ROR?

 

[McDuffz88]

Yeah, Josh Anderson doesn't bring what the Devils don't already have.

Wait so you're saying we shouldn't be giving Nemec up for Anderson?

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

Not saying Utah does it, but Hayton would be a great fit. Defensively responsible, good on draws, can expect 40+ points. He's ideal as a high end 3c that can play top 6 when injuries call for it.

I don't even know what we'd want in return. Bill seems content with the roster given our rebuild stage and the teams placement in the standings. Content is not a good word because he's not satisfied, but he doesn't seem interested in shaking things up right now. We have high end prospects we're waiting on, no need to rush. Hopefully that makes sense.

If Nemec is the preferred trade chip, we could add a 2nd to Hayton for the feels, but I'm not particularly high on him. He's a good player, I think 2nd pairing long term. If you think he's a top pair guy, then he's probably not the right trade chip.

What would Devils fans want to give up for him?

 

[Omar Little]

I think Evans and NJ are a perfect fit idk if they need 2pker but Armia Evans is one of the best duo for PK atm. Both cheap contracts and ufa . Don't think habs would ask much

Take the condition off the current 3rd round pick (so it becomes a 2nd rounder) and then re-add the 3rd round pick for both Armia and Evans?

 

[impaaaaaact]

Any way for the Isles to get Gritsyuk out of this? Nelson/Pageau/Palmieri/Pulock/Dobson probably all available right now, obviously all at different prices.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Take the condition off the current 3rd round pick (so it becomes a 2nd rounder) and then re-add the 3rd round pick for both Armia and Evans?

Evans is worth more than a 3rd pick alone. Center than can play defensively with low salary are always overpaid on tdl , id expect a 2nd alone for h im

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Evans is worth more than a 3rd pick alone. Center than can play defensively with low salary are always overpaid on tdl , id expect a 2nd alone for h im

The conditions are highly unlikely to be met to make the 3rd turn to a 2nd for Allen.

So that offer would be a 2nd, not a 3rd.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

How about ROR?

yes, I would be very interested. Especially if Nashville retained and/or took back an expiring contract.

Evans is worth more than a 3rd pick alone. Center than can play defensively with low salary are always overpaid on tdl , id expect a 2nd alone for h im

I would definitely trade a 2nd round pick + middling prospect for Evans quite easily. I just think that some other Habs fans believe they are getting a 1st for him.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

The conditions are highly unlikely to be met to make the 3rd turn to a 2nd for Allen.

So that offer would be a 2nd, not a 3rd.

...Habs have a ton of picks already and a deep prospect pool...if it isn't a 1st, it really isn't worth it for Hughes to trade him, imo...

 

[BHD]

Wait so you're saying we shouldn't be giving Nemec up for Anderson?

Lol. That's sure to expedite their rebuild.

 

[My3Sons]

The whole premise of this topic was flawed from the outset. NJ has almost no available cap right now. They have multiple players on the injured list pushing them to only about $1 mil in cap space. The players they’d want to move to make cap space have trade protection. Beyond that they aren’t moving good long term prospects for rentals or packages of pieces and parts.

If they manage to get their injured players back after the four nations break they can look to add a rental at the trade deadline if cap space permits. That’s likely all they can do this season.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

...Habs have a ton of picks already and a deep prospect pool...if it isn't a 1st, it really isn't worth it for Hughes to trade him, imo...

That's understandable, I was just correcting that poster thinking it was a 3rd for him. Fitz isn't a big rental guy so I doubt he gives up a future 1st as the Devils don't have their next one for a rental.

 

[devsfan8]

The whole premise of this topic was flawed from the outset. NJ has almost no available cap right now. They have multiple players on the injured list pushing them to only about $1 mil in cap space. The players they’d want to move to make cap space have trade protection. Beyond that they aren’t moving good long term prospects for rentals or packages of pieces and parts.

If they manage to get their injured players back after the four nations break they can look to add a rental at the trade deadline if cap space permits. That’s likely all they can do this season.

I'm not sure I buy this. I'm not a cap whiz by any means but all I heard all year 2 seasons ago was we had no cap space we had no cap space. We turned no cap space in to Timo Meier. (Yes i know they took Johnson and zedderlund off the cap space).

With all the loopholes and workarounds and maneuvering these GMs have learned like 3rd party brokers and trading picks to take cap dumps attached, if Fitz WANTED to he could get a marquee name..

Example Tatar and a 4th for a 27 uth from a taker. There is another 1.8 mil.

In the end, with the cap space increasing each day if we do nothing in advance we wil lhave 2.3 mill or so at the deadline.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The conditions are highly unlikely to be met to make the 3rd turn to a 2nd for Allen.

So that offer would be a 2nd, not a 3rd.

To be clear, that is very low compared to what most other Habs fans think. And in this next draft, the 2nd rounders are more like 3rd rounders. Right out of Bob M mouth who is more respected in that area than any other prospect rankings you will see out there.

 

[Smitty426]

yes, I would be very interested. Especially if Nashville retained and/or took back an expiring contract.



I would definitely trade a 2nd round pick + middling prospect for Evans quite easily. I just think that some other Habs fans believe they are getting a 1st for him.

Are you sending Bastian or similar back?

 

[My3Sons]

I'm not sure I buy this. I'm not cap whiz by any means buy all I hear all year 2 seasons ago was we had no cap space ewe had no cap space. We turned no cap space I to Timo Meier.

With all the loopholes and workarounds and maneuvering these GMs have learned like 3 part brokers and trading picks to take cap dumps attached, if Fitz WANTED to he could get a marquee name..

Example Tatar and a 4th for a 27 uth from a taker. There is another 1.8 mil.

In the end, with the cap space increasing each day if we do nothing in advance we wil lhave 2.3 mill or so at the deadline.

I don’t recall cap space as part of thr discussion for Meier but that’s not the issue right now. They can certainly move Tatar to open up that $1.8 mil and maybe at the deadline they do that. But it’s an issue the way some posters want to move packages of players to NJ to get Nemec. It’s way more than an extra $1.8 mil. Moreover NJ isn’t likely going to want to preemptively add cap for next season if they want to have a chance to extend Kovacevic and also offer a long term deal for Luke Hughes. NJ has enough overpaid players they don’t need to keep adding them. Just see what they can do at the deadline after Hischier and Haula return.

 

[devsfan8]

I don’t recall cap space as part of thr discussion for Meier but that’s not the issue right now. They can certainly move Tatar to open up that $1.8 mil and maybe at the deadline they do that. But it’s an issue the way some posters want to move packages of players to NJ to get Nemec. It’s way more than an extra $1.8 mil. Moreover NJ isn’t likely going to want to preemptively add cap for next season if they want to have a chance to extend Kovacevic and also offer a long term deal for Luke Hughes. NJ has enough overpaid players they don’t need to keep adding them. Just see what they can do at the deadline after Hischier and Haula return.

I totally agree Nemec is off limits.
I actually value him higher then Casey. But a lot of Devils fans do not. I'd use Casey as a piece to make a go for it move this season if cap permitted.

 

[My3Sons]

I totally agree Nemec is off limits.
I actually value him higher than Casey. But a lot of Devils fans do not. I'd use Casey as a piece to make a go for it move this season if cap permitted.

I don’t think this season look to be one to go all in to the point you move a top product for a rental. If Markstrom is injured do you have to add another goalie over a forward? If Hischier stays hurt do you have any real chance to compete down the stretch? So many questions right now. I imagine NJ brass wants to see their team after the break and if everyone is genuinely healthy they can assess where they are at that point.

Plus right now it’s a very crowded east and the sellers versus buyers are hard to discern once you get past the top six teams. Any team that wins for or five in a row can take the last playoff spot. Some Montreal fans want to move Evans but if they win a few more games they are buyers at the deadline not sellers. Lots of hockey to play and still a fluid playoff picture outside of thr obvious bottom teams.

 

[devsfan8]

I don’t think this season look to be one to go all in to the point you move a top product for a rental. If Markstrom is injured do you have to add another goalie over a forward? If Hischier stays hurt do you have any real chance to compete down the stretch? So many questions right now. I imagine NJ brass wants to see their team after the break and if everyone is genuinely healthy they can assess where they are at that point.

Plus right now it’s a very crowded east and the sellers versus buyers are hard to discern once you get past the top six teams. Any team that wins for or five in a row can take the last playoff spot. Some Montreal fans want to move Evans but if they win a few more games they are buyers at the deadline not sellers. Lots of hockey to play and still a fluid playoff picture outside of thr obvious bottom teams.

This is where I disagree. Anything can happen once you get to the dance. It's a new season in April. All it takes is a hot goalie or hot team at the right time. The Devils have a good mix of battle tested deep playoff guys. We have to think like a buying team in my opinion.

If we are in a playoff spot at the deadline I do not only expect it, i but it is also Fitz responsibility to make the team better. Every team in the playoff race will make a move. And the Devils have a lot of assets. Numerous 2nds, etc.

I am on the boat that a depth guy or two to round out the bottom 6 is all we need. There is 0 reason to believe this cannot be accomplished.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Sounds like Pavel zacha would be a good fit.

I'll see myself out.

Why would Boston deal Zacha. Isn’t Boston thin down the middle, plus Zacha’s been a good fit for Boston and Boston for Zacha. He just didn’t workout with the Devils.