Speculation: NJ desperate for a high end 3c/decent 2c
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Pius Suter
JGP (would be interested in buying retention)
Dickinson (would be interested in buying retention)
Gourde
Frederic
Colton
Evans
Coyle (would be interested in buying retention)
RoR (would be interested in buying retention)
Would be my list of targets off the top of my head
JGP (would be interested in buying retention)
Dickinson (would be interested in buying retention)
Gourde
Frederic
Colton
Evans
Coyle (would be interested in buying retention)
RoR (would be interested in buying retention)
Would be my list of targets off the top of my head
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Good list Gibb. Evans on here 2x you must really want him!
HugeInTheShire
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Isn't he also 8 million a season and signed until he's in his late 30's? If the rumors are true that he has had issues with numerous teammates is he really the upgrade you want to put in the locker room?
Adding him at the expense of Mercer makes them even more top heavy than they already are.
Taking 18 minutes out of the lineup would be incredibly counterproductive to the goal here
Especially since now that would be all 3 of our top PKing forwards (Haula, Hischier, Mercer) traded or hurt
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I hear you but "high end 3C or decent 2C" are expensive. Colorado had to give up Byram for Mittelstadt. Who's NJ's Byram?
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Suter has been excellent for Van all season.
Can play C or W.
Pending UFA at only $1.6M.
As a Canucks fan, NJ should seriously look at him.
Can play C or W.
Pending UFA at only $1.6M.
As a Canucks fan, NJ should seriously look at him.
minibrodeur
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Good list, JGP, Evans, Coyle and Frederic are all right handed I would expect us to target one of those.
Maybe at the deadline if the price is reasonable. Some NJ fans are upset that Hischier is out for a game or two or three and Haula has been out for weeks. Haula is skating and Hischier should return after the break at worst. Once they come back the furor will subside and life can go on. I'm sure NJ would like to add top nine forward at the deadline but they aren't going to break the bank most likely. I'd expect a second and a B prospect to be offered. Not sure if Suter is the best they can do at the deadline but we will see.
I 100% don't think a Mittelstadt level guy should be the target unless for some reason Nico is out until the playoffs, in which case you go get Brock Nelson, if you buy at all.
I'm thinking Frederic, JGP, Coyle, Dickinson, Backlund, RoR, Colton (you can see some more of the names I had in a previous post).
A ross colton type trade for a 2nd imo, or buying retention on one of the many older Cs who are solid players, but have contracts that make them somewhat unappealing in that 4-6 mill range (Coyle, Dickinson, Copp, Compher, JGP).
Pieces that (outside of RoR and Backund in this example) aren't really guys who COMMAND 1st round picks. None of them you'd think of as a blockbuster move if it came through.
Someone to be what Haula was prior to this year, or what Michael McLeod appeared to have broken out into being before it came out he was a terrible human being.
Guys to slot into these 2 holes (the winger hole may simply be an internal move of Meier with Nico again, then cotter/haula/tatar on line 3 LW, with lazar to 4C and bastian back into the lineup).
Suter is really the premium Swiss Army Knife player type (he's also Swiss, he'll fit right in!). Plays any position, any role, special teams. He's been a value add anywhere the Canucks have put him in the lineup.
He's legitimately become an elite defensive forward too. He has the best defensive impact of any Canuck forward and he's been moved up to #1 PK duties. He'll also chip in some goals.
You can do a lot, lot worse. He could be a very effective 3C for the Devils, or line up as a 3rd wheel with Jack or Nico.
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Monsieur Verdoux
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Aren't Frederic and Colton mostly wingers? I'm not against trading for one of them, but they're better as a winger than a center, like Mercer?
To an extend, but I think there are a lot of things you can play with to find fits. For example maybe haula can't do it himself as 3C, but if you move Colton-Nico-Noesen, then go Meier-Haula-Mercer that would be an incredible 3rd line. It depends on what specifically you're looking for. If you're looking for a fully ready fully seasoned C, you're likely looking at an older guy
SteveCangialosi123
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Getting them to retain on JGP for this year and next at half would be a hefty cost, I think.
I could see this being an off season move where the Devils kick back Haula though to cut through some of the JGP cap hit.
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It really depends. Colton is still a solid middle 6 player on the Avs, he just doesn't play a way that Bednar likes so his minutes are usually in the 12-15 range. But that also doesn't mean he's going to be dumped unless there's absolutely no other option to help facilitate a larger trade.
So while there's a chance NJ can get Colton for cheap prior to the TDL, I wouldn't bank on it. Most likely scenario would be Wood gets moved to help facilitate a deal this season and than Colton gets moved in the summer when it becomes a M-NTC.
I doubt it. If Colton is moved this year it will be to make cap space for a larger deal, and as other Devils fans alluded to he probably wouldn't cost too much due to the NTC.
Buying retention>>>>sending back meaningful roster players who you then have to replace.
If you still want to move Haula after the trade you can do that
You can't go back and turn JGPs 5 mill into 2.5 mill once you've acquired him unretained.
How much are we saying Pageau costs unretained at 5 mill?
How much is the retention for this year and next? a 2nd+3rd tops?
vs how much does it cost to then go get a Haula equivalent player at a cap hit of 600k (2.5 mill pageau+3.1 mill haula vs 5 mill pageau+600k replacement)
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Frederic was a center in college and on the USNTDP, but has played mostly wing in the NHL. That was because we had Bergeron, Krejci and Coyle for most of his career. Last year he played a lot of center and played center in the playoffs. He has played some center this year as well. I wouldn't say he's better at wing or better at center. If he has chemistry with his linemates he can play any of the 3 positions well.
Frederic is left handed, Coyle is right. Coyle can play center or wing as well.
Fwiw, Coyle is a better player than Frederic. Better defensively, better hands, one of the best at protecting the puck, gets 65-70% Dzone starts, kills penalties, better at face-offs... Frederic hits more and is a very good middle-weight fighter, so he gets the edge if you're looking for toughness.
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Granlund ? Gourde ? Nelson but I think Fitz goes after someone with term . Unless he is certain he can resign Nelson .
Not a C but he can see Fitz interested in Boeser .
My wish list
Miller
Nelson
Granlund
Boeser
Colton
Crouse
Evans
Not a C but he can see Fitz interested in Boeser .
My wish list
Miller
Nelson
Granlund
Boeser
Colton
Crouse
Evans
HugeInTheShire
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Sending out a high level asset for a borderline cap dump
Takes up more cap space than NJ has
Gives a rival a potential top 6 D
No chance, doesn't make sense on any level.
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