Proposal: NJ-CGY (After the Season)

[NJ DevLolz]

This is an interesting idea I had after the season:

To NJ:
Matthew Tkachuk
Oliver Kylington

To CGY:
NJ's 2022 1st (~5th overall)
Damon Severson
Pavel Zacha

Plenty of smoke that Tkachuk may not want to re-sign in Calgary. Calgary gets a 2022 top 5 pick to compensate the loss of him and a very good top 4 RD in Severson who will likely be more than ok with re-signing in Western Canada (where he's from). NJ desperately needs a skilled, physical winger to play with Jack or Nico and he has ties to Fitzgerald. Flame away! (pun intended)

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[Stephen Gionta]

Take out Kylington.
Swap Severson for Holtz.

Then I think it's good.

So:
Tkachuk to NJ for Holtz, Zacha, 2022 1st.

 

[HighLifeMan]

Yeah, that's just flat out bad for Calgary..

I wouldn't make that trade for Tkachuk alone, let alone trying to sneak Kylington in there.

 

[Some Other Flame]

This is an interesting idea I had after the season:

To NJ:
Matthew Tkachuk
Oliver Kylington

To CGY:
NJ's 2022 1st (~5th overall)
Damon Severson
Pavel Zacha

Plenty of smoke that Tkachuk may not want to re-sign in Calgary. Calgary gets a 2022 top 5 pick to compensate the loss of him and a very good top 4 RD in Severson who will likely be more than ok with re-signing in Western Canada (where he's from). NJ desperately needs a skilled, physical winger to play with Jack or Nico and he has ties to Fitzgerald. Flame away! (pun intended)

Terrible. Kylington is not a throw in nor do the Flames have the depth on the left side to lose him.

Take out Kylington.
Swap Severson for Holtz.

Then I think it's good.

So:
Tkachuk to NJ for Holtz, Zacha, 2022 1st.

Less terrible. If Tkachuk absolutely refused to re-sign, Holtz + 2022 1st would be a decent starting point. Would prefer Mercer. Or maybe like Hischier + 2nd for Tkachuk.

 

[EK392000]

If Gaudreau leaves and Tkachuk does not want to resign, NJ's first and Holtz would be extremely attractive pieces.

 

[North Man]

Holtz + 1st for Tkachuk seems about right. No thx to Hischier

 

[Volica]

If Gaudreau walks, Yup; I'm good with this.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Does this deal work?

To NJ: Matthew Tkachuk

To Calgary: Alexander Holtz, Ty Smith, Tomas Tatar

 

[NJ DevLolz]

People are really sleeping on Severson. He can carry a second pair or be a great compliment on a top pair. He’s really good

 

[Some Other Flame]

People are really sleeping on Severson. He can carry a second pair or be a great compliment on a top pair. He’s really good

Flames already have Andersson and Tanev locked up for a while on the right side. No need for another righty.

 

[Bond]

Take out Kylington.
Swap Severson for Holtz.

Then I think it's good.

So:
Tkachuk to NJ for Holtz, Zacha, 2022 1st.

If Gaudreau walks then I'd book it

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

People are really sleeping on Severson. He can carry a second pair or be a great compliment on a top pair. He’s really good

He can carry a rebuilding team? If Calgary looses Tkachuk they are 100% rebuilding so acquiring a rental in Severson makes zero sense. He would also play 3rd pair in Calgary as both Ras and Tanev are strictly better.

Your original trade is just really bad overall for Calgary, regardless of the direction the Flames go

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Does this deal work?

To NJ: Matthew Tkachuk

To Calgary: Alexander Holtz, Ty Smith, Tomas Tatar

Not enough futures. Tkachuk leaving = instant rebuild

 

[DFF]

There is no reason for the Flames to trade Kylington for Severson if they rebuild

Rest of packing is not enough for tkachuk. Start with 2022 AND 2023 1sts

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Got it.

So...

To NJ: Tkachuk

To Calgary: Alex Holtz, 2022 1st round pick, Janne Kuokkanen

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

Got it.

So...

To NJ: Tkachuk

To Calgary: Alex Holtz, 2022 1st round pick, Janne Kuokkanen

Would be tough to let go of Holtz and that high pick but you gotta give to get. I would consider doing this trade for sure. We would have the opportunity to draft a defensman with that pick but getting Tkachuk would be a huge add.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Got it.

So...

To NJ: Tkachuk

To Calgary: Alex Holtz, 2022 1st round pick, Janne Kuokkanen

Wouldnt work because the 2022 draft will be done by the time Calgary starts negotiations with Tkachuk. And he's only getting traded if he wont sign long term with the Flames

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Wouldnt work because the 2022 draft will be done by the time Calgary starts negotiations with Tkachuk. And he's only getting traded if he wont sign long term with the Flames

Calgary will have an idea of if they can get him signed or not by the draft

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Calgary will have an idea of if they can get him signed or not by the draft

Doubtful. Tkachuk negotiations always take a while

 

[Bounces R Way]

If Treliving trades Kylington I will personally find out where he lives, break in in the middle of the night, tie him down, shave his head, and tattoo MORON on his dome.

Got it.

So...

To NJ: Tkachuk

To Calgary: Alex Holtz, 2022 1st round pick, Janne Kuokkanen

Not super high on Holtz myself but that's probably relatively close.

 

[Alex12]

I will never understand how low people value Tkachuk. You CANT win without players like him. When it comes to playoff hockey and the grind that comes along with it, its players like Tkachuk who put a team on top. Prime example , Corey Perry, Joe Pavelski.

anyone who is going to trade for Tkachuk is going to have to over pay massively.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Bad for Calgary.

How about T.Smith+2022 1st for Garland+3rd?

 

[Stephen Gionta]

Bad for Calgary.

How about T.Smith+2022 1st for Garland+3rd?

New Jersey isn't giving up any of Smith, Holtz, or our 2022 1st round pick in a trade for Garland.

Those are our 3 most valuable expendable pieces and they would only be used in a trade for a needle mover such as Tkachuk or DeBrincat. Not Conor Garland.

 

[Gritty]

If Johnny walks and we lose him, I would want the Flames to target a rebuild.

Tkachuk for Holtz + 1st 2022 would do the trick for me.

Tkachuk and Lindholm alone would bring in massive hauls to move things along faster.

 

[BigRangy]

Yeah Holtz+a good first would be about as good of a package as could be expected for 1 year of Tkachuk.
Would love to add to Tkachuk for Mercer if this ended up being the case, he’s going to be really good.