Nintendo Switch #5

[Habsfan18]

Yeah charging for that piece of software is pretty stupid but who gives a shit? For real, is anyone here seriously going to argue that they were excited about this software?!

Everybody agrees Nintendo first party titles are amongst the finest in the industry, they can get away with charging a $10-$20 premium.

Video games are incredibly expensive to make, if you can't deal with that, change hobby.

Also, it isn't like there isn't an ocean of very cheap and fine games to buy if you can't afford the Switch 2.

I'd like to know what in my sharing of that article gave you the impression that I was complaining about the cost of first party games or even the Switch 2 console itself? I was simply stating and agreeing with the overwhelming majority of people that think it's f***ing stupid to charge even $10 for what essentially amounts to a tech demo.

$700 Canadian for the MK bundle is fairly expensive, but it's not exactly far off what I was anticipating. I'll be pre-ordering the minute they go live.

Also, "if you can't deal with that, change hobby" is a pretty f***ing ignorant statement to make. But I'm fairly certain you know that, and couldn't care less.

 

[Mikeaveli]

Nintendo Switch 2 Leveled Up With NVIDIA AI-Powered DLSS and 4K Gaming

The Nintendo Switch 2 takes performance to the next level, powered by a custom NVIDIA processor featuring an NVIDIA GPU with dedicated RT Cores and Tensor Cores for stunning visuals and AI-driven enhancements.

blogs.nvidia.com

It was rumored for years and now it's confirmed, Switch 2 will support DLSS and hardware RT acceleration.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The console itself isn't too bad price-wise. The games are a bit of a different story.

On the other hand you could argue that game prices have stayed relatively flat for the past 3 decades. So I dunno, it's just that the world is kinda f***ed at the moment.

 

[Seedtype]

Nintendo explains why Switch 2 hardware and software cost so much

$450 system isn’t being sold at a loss, wasn’t priced with tariffs in mind.

arstechnica.com

Just kinda of a decent roundup reporting on Nintendo's thinking right now.

On the tariffs they said they hadn't chosen the $450 console price with that in mind, they also said they already have quite a few Switch 2 in the country already.(I imagine they are waiting to see what the hell is going to happen)

I also am gonna take back what I said a while back about physical copies being 10 dollars more. It seems that was based on a listing somewhere, need to see more confirmation if there is gonna be a difference between physical and digital.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I'd like to know what in my sharing of that article gave you the impression that I was complaining about the cost of first party games or even the Switch 2 console itself? I was simply stating and agreeing with the overwhelming majority of people that think it's f***ing stupid to charge even $10 for what essentially amounts to a tech demo.

$700 Canadian for the MK bundle is fairly expensive, but it's not exactly far off what I was anticipating. I'll be pre-ordering the minute they go live.

Also, "if you can't deal with that, change hobby" is a pretty f***ing ignorant statement to make. But I'm fairly certain you know that, and couldn't care less.

I wasn't talking to you, I used your post as a jumping off point to complain about all the bitching and moaning about the prices.

Video gaming is a luxury hobby that has a ton of options. If people don't want to buy a console/gaming pc, they can play on their phones; there is an infinite supply of great indie games that are usually pretty cheap if they want less expensive games etc.

No one is entitled to a Switch 2 at $299.99 USD

 

[robertmac43]

I wasn't talking to you, I used your post as a jumping off point to complain about all the bitching and moaning about the prices.

Video gaming is a luxury hobby that has a ton of options. If people don't want to buy a console/gaming pc, they can play on their phones; there is an infinite supply of great indie games that are usually pretty cheap if they want less expensive games etc.

No one is entitled to a Switch 2 at $299.99 USD

You really think it's a luxury hobby? It's always felt like a pretty low barrier to entry hobby even with consoles. When I think of some of the other hobbies one can have as an adult, most are more pricey than gaming.

 

[Habsfan18]

Nintendo delays Switch 2 pre-orders in Canada

The pre-orders were originally set to go live on April 9.

mobilesyrup.com

Canadian pre-orders have apparently been delayed.

 

[robertmac43]

Yup - Canada delayed to line up with the USA pre-order release.

If you want it is possible to pre-order from the UK and ship it over:

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Thanks Chuds!

 

[Do Make Say Think]

You really think it's a luxury hobby? It's always felt like a pretty low barrier to entry hobby even with consoles. When I think of some of the other hobbies one can have as an adult, most are more pricey than gaming.

Luxury doesn't have to mean super expensive.

You need electronics to play video games and the price of electronics keeps increasing thanks to stupid shit like crypto and AI etc.

Magic the Gathering is another example of a hobby that go from very cheap to absurdly expensive. Same kind of deal with video games.

Dedicated gaming systems are only going to get more expensive. The good thing is that there are cheaper options for those who want to game but get priced out of higher tier segments.

I'd rather the Switch 2 be $300, but it being $450 and the games being $10 to $20 more is not a big deal and a ton of people are acting like it is.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Yup - Canada delayed to line up with the USA pre-order release.

If you want it is possible to pre-order from the UK and ship it over:

Says it is unavailable for me

 

[Big McLargehuge]

The problem I have with the games jumping in price is that a.) Nintendo basically skipped $70 outside of 1 singular game and b.) Nintendo never cuts the prices of their damn games.

$80 on launch I have a lot less of an issue with than I do them still selling that game for $80 5 years down the road, which we all know they'll do. I remember new video games being $70 of 1996 money, so I'm more understanding of games inching up in price, but raising the cost 33% is significant. There's going to be a lot fewer games I'll buy at that price point just out of necessity.

The biggest complaint I have about the console price is that it doesn't include an OLED screen. The f***ing Vita had that 13+ years ago, there's no reason not to have that here when their big mid-generation Switch improvement was just a f***ing OLED screen.

Then there's the charging $10 for a tech demo thing. f*** off with that.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Analysts Predict Potential, Eventual $530 Switch 2 Price After Tariffs

Experts are starting to chime in that over time, Switch 2 prices may be 20% higher if Nintendo is impacted by tariffs to a significant degree.

www.forbes.com

Hahahahaha

 

[Mikeaveli]

The problem I have with the games jumping in price is that a.) Nintendo basically skipped $70 outside of 1 singular game and b.) Nintendo never cuts the prices of their damn games.

$80 on launch I have a lot less of an issue with than I do them still selling that game for $80 5 years down the road, which we all know they'll do. I remember new video games being $70 of 1996 money, so I'm more understanding of games inching up in price, but raising the cost 33% is significant. There's going to be a lot fewer games I'll buy at that price point just out of necessity.

The biggest complaint I have about the console price is that it doesn't include an OLED screen. The f***ing Vita had that 13+ years ago, there's no reason not to have that here when their big mid-generation Switch improvement was just a f***ing OLED screen.

Then there's the charging $10 for a tech demo thing. f*** off with that.

Yeah that just sounds like entitlement to me. The Switch 2 already has an impressive display for a handheld with 120Hz, VRR and HDR. And you want them to switch to an even more expensive display tech while keeping the price the same? I don't think that's how things work.

 

[Jovavic]

When the Lite handheld only version comes out in 18 months, that's the SKU that should have the nicer screen

 

[Do Make Say Think]

When the Lite handheld only version comes out in 18 months, that's the SKU that should have the nicer screen

I am skeptical. I think people underestimate how nice the screen is on the regular Switch 2: large (and custom sized), 120hz, and VRR?

If they go OLED, it will be much more expensive and there are plenty of people losing their minds over a console costing $450.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Yeah that just sounds like entitlement to me. The Switch 2 already has an impressive display for a handheld with 120Hz, VRR and HDR. And you want them to switch to an even more expensive display tech while keeping the price the same? I don't think that's how things work.

The Vita cost $348 when adjusted for inflation 13 damn years ago. I care more about the OLED than I do the others.

Considering their only mid-generation upgrade was an OLED screen I don't think it's outrageous to have expected that.

 

[robertmac43]

Considering their only mid-generation upgrade was an OLED screen I don't think it's outrageous to have expected that.

They are going to do the Nintendo thing and release the OLED screen in 2.5 years haha.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

They are going to do the Nintendo thing and release the OLED screen in 2.5 years haha.

They 100% absolutely will do that, and I'll be grumpy.

I never got an OLED Switch because I'd already replaced my launch Switch a year before. That already drove my crazy

 

[robertmac43]

Luxury doesn't have to mean super expensive.

You need electronics to play video games and the price of electronics keeps increasing thanks to stupid shit like crypto and AI etc.

Magic the Gathering is another example of a hobby that go from very cheap to absurdly expensive. Same kind of deal with video games.

Dedicated gaming systems are only going to get more expensive. The good thing is that there are cheaper options for those who want to game but get priced out of higher tier segments.

I'd rather the Switch 2 be $300, but it being $450 and the games being $10 to $20 more is not a big deal and a ton of people are acting like it is.

When I think luxury I think extravagant, expensive, and inaccessible tbh. Gaming isn't really any of those things. When I think about a new generation of console coming out, the way I see it is you pay $400-$500 up front and get 4 to 6 years of entertainment out of that purchase. Sure there are games and other things on top of that but the general price of the hobby is not bad when you look at the life you get out of the console.

 

[PeteWorrell]

The Vita cost $348 when adjusted for inflation 13 damn years ago. I care more about the OLED than I do the others.

Considering their only mid-generation upgrade was an OLED screen I don't think it's outrageous to have expected that.

Exactly. It's crazy that people accept and defend enshittification.

We should pay more for less because a giant company said so. Otherwise customers are "entitled".

 

[Unholy Diver]

The problem I have with the games jumping in price is that a.) Nintendo basically skipped $70 outside of 1 singular game and b.) Nintendo never cuts the prices of their damn games.

$80 on launch I have a lot less of an issue with than I do them still selling that game for $80 5 years down the road, which we all know they'll do. I remember new video games being $70 of 1996 money, so I'm more understanding of games inching up in price, but raising the cost 33% is significant. There's going to be a lot fewer games I'll buy at that price point just out of necessity.

The biggest complaint I have about the console price is that it doesn't include an OLED screen. The f***ing Vita had that 13+ years ago, there's no reason not to have that here when their big mid-generation Switch improvement was just a f***ing OLED screen.

Then there's the charging $10 for a tech demo thing. f*** off with that.

Surely you will be able to catch it for 74.99 on sale a few times a year by then

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Exactly. It's crazy that people accept and defend enshittification.

We should pay more for less because a giant company said so. Otherwise customers are "entitled".

What if I tell you that an OLED screen would mean that you don't get 120hz or VRR or that it makes the system about $100 (this is a pure guess. I have no idea but the panel size is not common, that makes those much more expensive to mass produce) more expensive?

There's a reason Nintendo didn't use OLED despite already using OLED for a Switch 1 revision, and, like everything in life, it comes to money.

 

[Mikeaveli]

The Vita cost $348 when adjusted for inflation 13 damn years ago. I care more about the OLED than I do the others.

Considering their only mid-generation upgrade was an OLED screen I don't think it's outrageous to have expected that.

It's not outrageous, but it's silly to expect that with zero tradeoffs. If you would be okay with a $50 price increase or losing out on those features in exchange for the OLED screen, that's fair enough, but that's not how your original post came across.

Personally I think having 120Hz, VRR, and HDR makes more sense as having those features available to everyone who owns the Switch means that developers will be more likely to support them in docked mode for people like myself who will never use this thing as a handheld. OLED only benefits people who use handheld mode.

 

[PeteWorrell]

What if I tell you that an OLED screen would mean that you don't get 120hz or VRR or that it makes the system about $100 (this is a pure guess. I have no idea but the panel size is not common, that makes those much more expensive to mass produce) more expensive?

There's a reason Nintendo didn't use OLED despite already using OLED for a Switch 1 revision, and, like everything in life, it comes to money.

Unless you have a verifiable and trusted source or you can prove that you are an industry insider then i am not buying anything you say to justify these prices.