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x Tame Impala said:
I think a lot of the internet is screaming into the wind over the pricing, personally. Houses that cost $325k 20 years ago cost $550k now. Why wouldn't you expect the price of games to increase? We've been enjoying the $60/$70 price tag for a long time, there's no way it would last forever.
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I would be happy to pay 80 to 90 dollars for a game I know that will be good like Elden Ring, versus a game where it's the same mechanics for about twenty years now. Yes, Mario Kart works, yes I have had loads of time in it, yes it is fun, but they haven't changed the main foundational segment of it because it works while really lacking in any sort of graphical or new content segment of it. I don't mind paying 90 dollars for the next Zelda installment, but there are some games the price tag seems insane. And that is for games such as Mario Kart, Mario Party, Pikmin 40, and Super Mario games.

The only thing I am whining about is games, I never once complained about the Switch only being 50 dollars less than a PS5 or XBX (which are clearly superior systems).
 
S E P H said:
I would be happy to pay 80 to 90 dollars for a game I know that will be good like Elden Ring, versus a game where it's the same mechanics for about twenty years now. Yes, Mario Kart works, yes I have had loads of time in it, yes it is fun, but they haven't changed the main foundational segment of it because it works while really lacking in any sort of graphical or new content segment of it. I don't mind paying 90 dollars for the next Zelda installment, but there are some games the price tag seems insane. And that is for games such as Mario Kart, Mario Party, Pikmin 40, and Super Mario games.

The only thing I am whining about is games, I never once complained about the Switch only being 50 dollars less than a PS5 or XBX (which are clearly superior systems).
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To me it just means I'll be buying less games. I'm much more reluctant to pay $90 for a game unless, like you said, it's a surefire home run. It's an unfortunate hike and I understand it is harder for some to than it is others to casually throw nearly $100 at a single videogame.
 
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x Tame Impala said:
I think a lot of the internet is screaming into the wind over the pricing, personally. Houses that cost $325k 20 years ago cost $550k now. Why wouldn't you expect the price of games to increase? We've been enjoying the $60/$70 price tag for a long time, there's no way it would last forever.
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I honestly agree. The market decided to bear the jump to $70 and it probably will bear the jump to $80.

Im curious why they decided to go $80 for only Mario Kart here. Are they pricing in future content updates? Are they trying to force consumers into buying the bundle where the game is only priced at $50?
 
S E P H said:
Reading more about the pricing, the more this is coming across as Apple tactics...which actually isn't surprising considering Nintendo is very much the Apple version of gaming systems/companies IMO. In what way does Mario Kart deserve to be an 80-dollar game when RDRII (which is one of the best games ever made) was 60 dollars? For as much as we like Nintendo and Mario Kart X, it doesn't come close to the impact RDRII has made on our hearts.
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Because the industry as a whole has loved on from the $60 price tag. GTA 6 is going to be at minimum $80

$100 games already exist when you factor in battle pass costs and day 1 DLC
 
S E P H said:
I would be happy to pay 80 to 90 dollars for a game I know that will be good like Elden Ring, versus a game where it's the same mechanics for about twenty years now. Yes, Mario Kart works, yes I have had loads of time in it, yes it is fun, but they haven't changed the main foundational segment of it because it works while really lacking in any sort of graphical or new content segment of it. I don't mind paying 90 dollars for the next Zelda installment, but there are some games the price tag seems insane. And that is for games such as Mario Kart, Mario Party, Pikmin 40, and Super Mario games.

The only thing I am whining about is games, I never once complained about the Switch only being 50 dollars less than a PS5 or XBX (which are clearly superior systems).
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You're allowed to prefer whatever games you want. But to go out of your way to claim that Pikmin or Mario games are all the same while praising what is essentially Dark Souls 4 is pretty ironic.
 
Randy Butternubs said:
I'm not thrilled about the prices (who is??) but this isn't that bad. Weren't PS3s $500 when they were first released? That's almost $800 these days.

Yeah, the game prices are what really blows...
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PS3 was sold at a $250 to $300 loss depending on what model you purchased. Plus it was way cheaper than the other bluerays on the market which were over $1000. It was amazing value for what you got.

The Switch 2 is overpriced in your comparison.
 
I think people are missing the bigger picture here when talking about prices, at least about the console. Nintendo shouldn't be compared to Sony. Part of the reason for the Switch's success was that it was considerably cheaper than the PS4. Now the Switch 2 is more expensive than a PS5, at least up here in Canada. While having much less power in exchange for the portable factor.

There are a lot of parallels between the Switch 2 and the Wii U if you start digging. Following up a massive success while not changing much...the hype is definitely is definitely dissipating for a lot of people. Personally nothing has been a system seller for me. Likely only a new Smash or 3D Mario will get me to buy one.
 
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TheDoldrums said:
Nintendo shouldn't be compared to Sony
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Agreed. They're their own entity in the gaming world. They do things how they want, mostly irrespective of Sony, Xbox, and PC gaming because they're not really in competition with them.

As long as their core game design and experience remains finely polished, fun, and engaging for all age groups it's going to keep working for them.
 
x Tame Impala said:
To me it just means I'll be buying less games. I'm much more reluctant to pay $90 for a game unless, like you said, it's a surefire home run. It's an unfortunate hike and I understand it is harder for some to than it is others to casually throw nearly $100 at a single videogame.
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Yup thats basically where I'm at now. I so rarely play games immediately when they release these days. I just wait for that first, second, or even third sale and then pick them up. Now if only Nintendo put their games on sale every now and then.
 
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Nintendo sorta ditched the power specs race since the Wii, they don't really give a f*** now about how many polygons can they pump out a second nor how much power it can produce.

They ditched the 'console wars' long time ago, Sony and Microsoft seems to still go at it but is it really a console war anymore? 25 years ago it made sense, now it's just stale bread.
 
Randy Butternubs said:
I'm not thrilled about the prices (who is??) but this isn't that bad. Weren't PS3s $500 when they were first released? That's almost $800 these days.

Yeah, the game prices are what really blows...
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That's my argument, I would rather pay 500 to 700 US dollars for an inferior console like what the Switch II is and the same for games than the reverse uno card.
 
bambamcam4ever said:
You're allowed to prefer whatever games you want. But to go out of your way to claim that Pikmin or Mario games are all the same while praising what is essentially Dark Souls 4 is pretty ironic.
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Elden Ring is my first FromSoftware game, so I can't speak for the others. Nonetheless, I have played Nintendo games my entire life, and for as much as I love Mario 3D games and Pikmin (like I am a hardcore Pikmin fan), they simply cannot touch how much of a perfect game Elden Ring is/was.
 
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I know it's been a chaotic mess and will certainly continue to be, but I was surprised they announced the price before the latest round of randomly generated tariffs were set to be announced.

I doubt Nintendo or the retailers are going to eat the cost of this tax increase themselves, they'll try to pass it on to US consumers.
 
Beau Knows said:
I know it's been a chaotic mess and will certainly continue to be, but I was surprised they announced the price before the latest round of randomly generated tariffs were set to be announced.

I doubt Nintendo or the retailers are going to eat the cost of this tax increase themselves, they'll try to pass it on to US consumers.
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Or maybe we will just start opening up our own Video game factories here in the states, to go along with the steel mills, coal mines, and all the other industries that will be rushing back any minute now, any minute....
 
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My guess is Nintendo will try to wait this out and see where the random wheel of tariffs lands, say 6 months from now.

They apparently have a stock of already imported consoles which will have escaped the new tax rate, so they can rely on those for at least a little while. And having just announced the prices the other day, raising them days later while already facing some criticism over the initial prices might not look good to people who don't understand tariffs (see above).

But it's hard to say for sure, Nintendo generally doesn't accept selling console at a loss like their competitors do to gain market share. They have a different mindset there.
 
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