Nils Lundkvist vs Zac Jones

[Gluten Free Breadman]

I'm 60 - 40 lundkvist because of his shot.

 

[Harbour Dog]

I'm going to give them each another game before I form an opinion.

Jones has looked better, but playing the Isles in pre-season is a tough, tough ask for a rookie defenseman. They're instantly in form, because they rely so little on skill.

 

[brians1128]

As long as both keep increasing there stock value I’m happy.

 

[Machinehead]

I think Jones is more ready now, in a vacuum. We do need a RHD more.

Still think Lundkvist is a better prospect.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

I think they should both play in the same game vs an apples and oranges comparison. That Islander game was a burn the tape game for the whole team.

 

[Savant]

I think Jones is more ready now, in a vacuum. We do need a RHD more.

Still think Lundkvist is a better prospect.

Yeah I definitely agree with this. Don’t think Nils would be hurt by some time at Hartford either. But this is also why I wanted a Vet RHD and hated the Nemeth signing. Nils (probably) has a higher ceiling than Jones but Jones is probably more ready. Problem is you don’t have a good partner for Jones besides Schneider now because the team is unbalanced.

 

[RagFinMet]

As a passionate trouba hater i wish they both make it and by some miracle tru waves his nmc and all 3 kids make it
Realistically i want nils on team on third pair til he proves he is better than tru..
Keep jones and schneider together in ahl and let them grow together
Next year
Lindgren fox
Jones schneider
Miller Lundkvist
Robertson

 

[Inferno]

Schneider...then Jones....then Nils.


The gap between Schneider and Jones is significantly smaller than the gap between Jones and nils

 

[huerter]

If we're basing it off of preseason, make Zach Wilson the PP QB1 and punt both these kids to Hartford.

 

[BBKers]

OpeningNight Starting D vs Washington

Lindgren - Trouba
Nemeth - Bitetto
Tinordi - Geertson

Bring the foil!

 

[n8]

Zac Lundkvist

I prefer Zils Jonekvist myself.

 

[Levitate]

they play different sides, why not both!

 

[2014nyr]

right now jones ainec

he's looked fantastic in every area, playing much faster, shown a ton of confidence on the puck

this is nothing at all against nils. i do think expectations for a lot of people were a little too high and not considering all the changes he was facing making the jump. off the ice brings enough changes...but the smaller surface and more physical game make play so much faster esp for a smaller d. he's playing tentative because he's still figuring things out over here. i know he's beloved because he was a 1st rounder and has the special one timer but overall he's definitely swimming a bit. that could certainly change fast, and i still think he's a phenom prospect...there's nothing wrong if he takes a little time in hfd.

i do think a lot of this debate / preference for nils comes from his pedigree / highlight reel which isn't unreasonable to feel excited about. but what i feel like really doesn't get enough appreciation is the progression jones has been on. going back to before he was drafted the jumps he's made and the time he's needed to become a high end player at each level is not common.

i don't think where things stand today is terribly meaningful in the grand scheme of things though. just because ones in the lineup day one doesn't mean it won't be the other a month later, or both etc

 

[n8]

the possible development advantage of keeping Nils is they pretty much signed Nemeth to be his big brother.
That said, i think half a season dominating in the AHL would do him good. Getting him PRIME PP1 minutes instead of the 25 seconds of garbage our coaches usually give PP2 (if he's even put there) will be immensely valuable for his development as well as his confidence.
voted Jones

 

[Unusual Suspect]

Not answering... agreeing that the first two preseason games are an absolutely s*** basis on which to form a set opinion. I don't think Miller is going anywhere, or even should, because some of us question his vision and hockey sense... at this moment anyway. It's early days for ALL these guys. I'm also really, really sure that whichever of these two is sent down now may very well be the better of them and soon if not now. The better question may be the one posed by Brooks today... Hajek or Tinordi? It's actually a thing, and their respective camps also worth watching.

 

[will1066]

I prefer Zils Jonekvist myself.

That would be the best name in hockey, tbh

 

[hella rights]

Gotta give Jones the edge at the moment. I’d hope that whoever gets the nod can be reliable on the PK, just as interested in keeping Fox fresh as I am in finding a PP2 quarterback.

 

[Lion Hound]

Too early to tell for me. Need to se how they perform under different circumstances against different competition.

 

[Chimpradamus]

It's ridiculous to make a decision out of such an incredibly small sample size. From that Islanders game Kreider should be in Hartford as well.

If Lundkvist doesn't make the team it's a huge mistake if he would play in Hartford. If that's the case he should preferably play another year in the SHL instead and hone his strengths further. The SHL is also a better league than the AHL. The tempo game and the plethora of games with lack of practice isn't preferable to his development.

I would also question if the NYR is the right team for Lundkvist if he can't make the team. He has already dominated the SHL. IF NYR is that stacked at defense it's time to start trading.

 

[Inferno]

It's Jones vs Miller and Lundkvist vs Schneider

You're absolutely nuts if you think there's the remotest chance that Miller doesn't have a top 4 spot locked up.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

You're absolutely nuts if you think there's the remotest chance that Miller doesn't have a top 4 spot locked up.

 

[TheDirtyH]

You're absolutely nuts if you think there's the remotest chance that Miller doesn't have a top 4 spot locked up.

I think that's his point

 

[CasusBelli]

Didnt notice Nils either preseason game. Noticed Zac a few times. So I’ll go with Zac.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Didnt notice Nils either preseason game. Noticed Zac a few times. So I’ll go with Zac.

Well, Lundkvist didn't play in the 2nd game so it makes sense you didn't notice him in the 2nd

I need to see more of both, because the Islanders had a stronger team than the Bruins. If Jones can do the same against the Bruins, that'll be a big step towards him making the team. I don't think the choice is Lundkvist or Jones though. Are they going to play a rookie on their off side?

If it's a 2nd or 3rd year player, maybe. The jump to the NHL is big enough as it is.

 

[Fitzy]

It’s definitely not going to be a static seven in the NHL and AHL all year.

But the only correct answer here is we need to wait a few more games, including possibly a game where Jones plays with Tinordi

- with Nemeth, pardon me