Nils Lundkvist vs Zac Jones

[EdJovanovski]

Who do you think should make the team this year?

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[will1066]

Zac Lundkvist

 

[EdJovanovski]

I vote Jones, I watched both prospect scrimmages and both preseason games. I think Lundkvist looked mediocre and if I didn't know any better I would never have guessed he was a super highly touted prospect. Jones has been hands down the best Ranger on the ice in all 3 games he played IMO.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Great thread. Worth a good discussion.

Right now, and its early - its Jones for me. He has been incredibly impressive. Almost Fox-like. But that could change.

Honeslty would love to see both of them on the same pairing but its redundant and likely wont be tried unless there are injuries.

It isnt the worst thing in the world if Nils gets some time in Hartford to get acclimated to the states and the smaller rink. But once he starts tearing it up down there, who comes out of the lineup?

Good problems to have.

 

[NYR425]

Schneider over both of them. Jones looks really good also but with left defense the way it is I would let him and Nils both go down to Hartford and play PP1 and get 25-30 minutes each. With Jones feeding Nils for his bomb. Let Schneider play 3rd pair with the big boys.
Jones - Skinner
Robertson - Nils

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Jones has shown more but Nils has played one preseason game and no one played well .

Want to see more Nils

 

[EdJovanovski]

Jones has shown more but Nils has played one preseason game and no one played well .

Want to see more Nils

Did you watch the scrimmages? He was also underwhelming in those, and Jones was head & shoulders above anyone else

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Jones if we're going based off of what we've seen so far.

At the least this should stop the trade proposals where hes literally treated like a throw in.

 

[duhmetreE]

TBD

Jones is in the lead.

 

[cwede]

Neither, send them, and K, all to Pack to start.

Coach Turk gets deep familiar w Hajek, Bitetto and Tinordi
And over time the kids get merged in, as trades, injuries, suspensions, leaves, etc, open up spots

 

[chosen]

I think it's the wrong either/or.

Both over Miller.

 

[Fitzy]

Jones if we're going based off of what we've seen so far.

At the least this should stop the trade proposals where hes literally treated like a throw in.

Yeah his recent showings and clear offseason development have leapfrogged him over Robertson and into the Schneider Lundkvist tier of prospects in my eyes.

 

[broadwayblue]

Let's see them for half the pre-season games first.

 

[will1066]

Want to see some Robertson action also, if I'm going to disrupt this Lones vs Jundkvist debate.

 

[TheDirtyH]

Neither. We didn't sign Jared Tinordi just to sit him.

 

[Tob]

Not voting on the recency bias. Typical EdJovo trying to stir shit and create friction.

 

[Atax]

Neither, send them, and K, all to Pack to start.

Coach Turk gets deep familiar w Hajek, Bitetto and Tinordi
And over time the kids get merged in, as trades, injuries, suspensions, leaves, etc, open up spots

Good heavens, what???? Am I missing the sarcasm? You want those guys to play? I cant even.

 

[duhmetreE]

Jones if we're going based off of what we've seen so far.

At the least this should stop the trade proposals where hes literally treated like a throw in.

I'd still trade him for a good young Center straight up. I'd still trade him for Dvorak

 

[will1066]

Not voting on the recency bias. Typical EdJovo trying to stir shit and create friction.

yeah, @EdJovanovski, stop trying to stir shit and create fiction, man. And get that job at the coal mine, for crying out loud.

 

[bernmeister]

? is moot to extent unless/until we deal at least Strome to start, we need to 2 spots for Gauthier, who we are keeping and Hajek who we are moving, but we have to up his value first.
Either of these guys forced, neither gets thru waivers.

Jones starts in the A.
Nils has a bomb for a shot which nobody else has.
They got Nemeth to work acclerate acclamating him to NHL.
Nils stays.

 

[bernmeister]

I'd still trade him for a good young Center straight up. I'd still trade him for Dvorak

I'd be open to considering a move that eventually must be made but would prefer to see his trade value up first.

I want better than Dvorak, who's already been dealt.

I want to do Jones +/++ for a top end prospect +

 

[cwede]

Good heavens, what???? Am I missing the sarcasm? You want those guys to play? I cant even.

I am fine with all the blue chip D guys together w Pack for a while.
I am fine w Gallant forming HIS OWN opinions of which vets may contribute and how they might best be used.
October and November are not about results, they are about the staff preparing to build their approach for the 2nd half, and a run at a postseason spot.

I love the kids, they will have great careers, but there is NO downside to a few weeks/months together and w Steve Smith.

I know the folks here rely on having their whipping boys,
but look no further than Pionk as to how 'he sucks' group-think is unrelated to what actually may happen on the ice.

 

[Atax]

There's nothing wrong with players having stints in the AHL. I disagree though, about there being no downsides. The downside is when they actually can contribute in the NHL. Id rather see Jones/Lundkvist learn/grow in the NHL over journeymen/marginal players that have no future with the team. Tinordi and those guys are nice backups to have, but that's all they are.

 

[Mandar]

Assjole over both of them.....AINEC.....

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It's Jones vs Miller and Lundkvist vs Schneider