Confirmed with Link: Nikita Tryamkin returns to the KHL (signs 3-year deal with Avtomobilist)

[Donuts]

Getting called out by coach in the media
Getting scratched for philip larsen
Being forced to start in the ahl

Yup that will make him stay.

This guy was becoming a legit top 4 dman the way he progressed this season.

 

[vancityluongo]

Terrible. Another one under the "terrible ****ing asset management" column for this crew.

I assume someone in the media will find some way of blaming Gillis though. "Gillis didn't bring in any Russians so there was no one from before for Tryamkin to bond with."

This is also a loss-loss because it means Gudbranson suddenly has a roster spot again. Joy.

 

[vt89*]

This is more heartbreaking than game 7.

Is there any chance he comes back in 2 or so years when the team is on the rebound?

 

[Diamonddog01]

What a massive kick in the crotch.

 

[Jyrki21]

Well this sucks.

Willie should have done more squad rotation in general – including in the first 10 games, and all NHL coaches are a bit dumb with this – but once he got in, he was a permanent fixture.

Were his minutes really that unusual? He's not Erik Karlsson.

I'm the last guy to defend managament, but I don't think Tryamkin's complaints are really justified here. Maybe a bit, but it does sound a bit over the top.

 

[Wayward Son]

Have we picked a bar to drink ourselves into oblivion en masse or are we not there yet?

 

[BerSTUzzi]

It makes you wonder if there was more to the "targeting" of Goldobin to ease some of the big Russian's anger towards the Canucks.

I was getting frustrated every time I saw Linden on TV, now I hate seeing his face. That's an awesome feeling for someone who had him equal to Bure as favourite Canuck in my youth.

I just don't know how the the Aquaman hasn't purged this group from a business point of view. They have done nothing for him.

 

[FroshaugFan2]

It says he's a RFA for the 2017-18 season. So do we retain his rights if he decides to return one day?

Yeah, he will be a RFA for the Canucks until he reaches UFA age. The Canucks just need to send a qualifying offer.

Same situation as when Rodin and Sweatt left the AHL for Sweden.

 

[SourOil]

Terrible. Another one under the "terrible ****ing asset management" column for this crew.

I assume someone in the media will find some way of blaming Gillis though. "Gillis didn't bring in any Russians so there was no one from before for Tryamkin to bond with."

This is also a loss-loss because it means Gudbranson suddenly has a roster spot again. Joy.

Not here to troll. I have heard Vancouver fans **** all over Gudbranson since he was traded. Is the assessment of his play that negative? I always had the impression that he was a fairly dependable blueliner when he was in Florida.

Also - if Tryamkin is that much of a primadonna, do you really want him around during a rebuilding phase? The guy just showed you that he will quit on his team if he doesn't get his way. You have a ton of young talented players that want to be there and ride out the process - build upon those guys. Culture trumps talent - look at Edmonton's last decade as proof of that.

 

[brokenhole]

It makes you wonder if there was more to the "targeting" of Goldobin to ease some of the big Russian's anger towards the Canucks.

I was getting frustrated every time I saw Linden on TV, now I hate seeing his face. That's an awesome feeling for someone who had him equal to Bure as favourite Canuck in my youth.

I just don't know how the the Aquaman hasn't purged this group from a business point of view. They have done nothing for him.

Maybe they will take a clue from Buffalo's owner, he just cleaned house big time..Murray, Blysma punted quick.

 

[Donuts]

Part 1 of 4 canuck fails this offseason.

Part1: tryamkin to khl
Part2: canucks bumped down to 5th overall
Part3: canucks draft rasmussen while makar, vilardi still available at 5th
Part4: gudbranson extensed 6×6, benning/linden both get raise and extensions.

 

[tantalum]

I'm the last guy to defend managament, but I don't think Tryamkin's complaints are really justified here. Maybe a bit, but it does sound a bit over the top.

My guess is it's a bit more nuanced than simply "icetime" as I mentioned in a previous post. It likely is more to do with "no matter how much I was getting at the end of the year after numerous injuries, it doesn't change the way things were handled early in the year." I'm sure there is some grudge holding here on Trymakin's part. Justified or not it was something that should have been obvious early on to those who are supposed to be close to the players.

Could it have been addressed to change his mind? no idea. But it seems pretty realistic that based on comments by management as the year closed that this was not something they expected and likely they thought anything had been addressed. I'm sure I'll be called out for reading too much into things but there has been NO inkling given from management that they thought he wouldn't be back. They were banking on it.

 

[Intangibos]

Well this sucks.

Willie should have done more squad rotation in general – including in the first 10 games, and all NHL coaches are a bit dumb with this – but once he got in, he was a permanent fixture.

Were his minutes really that unusual? He's not Erik Karlsson.

I'm the last guy to defend managament, but I don't think Tryamkin's complaints are really justified here. Maybe a bit, but it does sound a bit over the top.

I'm not sure. I know at the start of the season he didn't get into the lineup but I don't think I watched a single game after the break. I'm all about bringing a guy along slowly as long as he gets his shots. I don't think he was totally mishandled in that regard, although I could be wrong, but maybe behind the scenes there were issues.

Imagine you came to play for the Canucks and you felt you could play more, but they didn't communicate what they wanted from you or how you could earn more ice time. It would be pretty frustrating. Wasn't there a similar thing with Kassian and him feeling like there wasn't enough communication in regards to what they wanted out of him?

 

[Josepho]

This ****ing blows, but I don't think this is the end of him. 5 years is more than enough time to get actual decent management and coaching. Let's hope he can come back.

 

[nucks88]

This should please the "draftists'. New motto "fallin' for Dahlin".

 

[Toxic0n]

I assume someone in the media will find some way of blaming Gillis though. "Gillis didn't bring in any Russians so there was no one from before for Tryamkin to bond with."

I already see Gillis being slammed on Reddit. "Well, it was still an awesome pick, it just didn't work out. Gillis didn't even try to sign Russians, he just drafted over agers LOL what a dummy"

 

[vt89*]

This ****ing blows, but I don't think this is the end of him. 5 years is more than enough time to get actual decent management and coaching. Let's hope he can come back.

Yes

But I think it might have more to do with the Olympics than management and coaching, even though he hasn't outright stated it.

 

[TruGr1t]

You can't do anything but laugh at this point. What a complete disaster.

Surely they knew this was a possibility and he wasn't happy, and he was just left playing 16 minutes/game all season, even when he had clearly earned more icetime on a terrible team going nowhere.

And this is why Gillis has the policy he had with Russians. For all the criticism he took, it doesn't seem so dumb now, does it?

Hopefully some good can come of this if it turns more fans against this pathetically incompetent administration.

So disappointing. One of the only positives to look forward to.

Oh, I think they knew this was coming. Not sure when, but I suspect they did.

It was suspicious how they never really leveraged Tyramkin's popularity in the team branding. Botch made a huge issue all year about how there was never Tryamkin "shirsey's" in the team store, and you couldn't get any team paraphernalia with his name on it. Also the apparent trade that kept getting talked about wherein we moved a defenseman for scoring help ... never happened.

And I totally blame management. If this was purely an ice time issue it would be remedied with WD's firing. It's a problem with the organization. Plus he's probably just more comfortable in Russia. A competent management team maybe could have found a way to make him stick around, though. Or if this team/organization wasn't, you know, a total tire fire.

Meanwhile, Botch is off committing seppuku somewhere following this news.

 

[Isi]

Not here to troll. I have heard Vancouver fans **** all over Gudbranson since he was traded. Is the assessment of his play that negative? I always had the impression that he was a fairly dependable blueliner when he was in Florida.

he sucks badly and to boot is in a prime position to get upped to a bad bad contract

 

[vancityluongo]

Something tells me that there won't be as much hand wringing about that one.

It's actually really hilarious that the guy who needed to be played over Tryamkin at all costs and is the reason he didn't play the first 10 games happens to leave on the same day.

Tryamkin's comments would be whiny if he was wrong. But he's not. Doesn't matter if he's not Erik Karlsson, he's sure as hell better than Philip Larsen. Again, not everyone can have Bo Horvat's conviction.

GODDDAMNIT!!!!!! Tryamkin was the only thing I liked about this team. **** ****

**** THIS ****ING TEAM

Sorry man. Literally every post I remember you making on this board over the past 3 years has been Tryamkin related. Reminds me of when y2k heard about the Shinkaruk trade. This is probably worse though.

Not here to troll. I have heard Vancouver fans **** all over Gudbranson since he was traded. Is the assessment of his play that negative? I always had the impression that he was a fairly dependable blueliner when he was in Florida.

Also - if Tryamkin is that much of a primadonna, do you really want him around during a rebuilding phase? The guy just showed you that he will quit on his team if he doesn't get his way. You have a ton of young talented players that want to be there and ride out the process - build upon those guys. Culture trumps talent - look at Edmonton's last decade as proof of that.

Probably best served for the Gudbranson thread, but yeah, he's not very good. At least, he's only a bottom pairing defenseman, which isn't bad but is pretty terrible for the price they paid to get him. Bigger problem is he's treated by management as a top-4 rock and is probably about to get paid that way too.

Culture only trumps talent when you have an absolute surplus of talent with no direction. The Canucks have no ****ing talent and just a bunch of rah rah spewers that can't actually play at the NHL level very well. The players that want to be here most - Megna, Chaput, Sbisa, Dorsett, and to some extent Sutter - feel that way because they're gifted opportunities that they simply would not be afforded anywhere else. For the first three, that means NHL icetime...

 

[Superlative Soup]

Part 1 of 4 canuck fails this offseason.

Part1: tryamkin to khl
Part2: canucks bumped down to 5th overall
Part3: canucks draft rasmussen while makar, vilardi still available at 5th
Part4: gudbranson extensed 6×6, benning/linden both get raise and extensions.

Welp, this was a day ruiner

 

[vancityluongo]

Oh, I think they knew this was coming. Not sure when, but I suspect they did.

It was suspicious how they never really leveraged Tyramkin's popularity in the team branding. Botch made a huge issue all year about how there was never Tryamkin "shirsey's" in the team store, and you couldn't get any team paraphernalia with his name on it. Also the apparent trade that kept getting talked about wherein we moved a defenseman for scoring help ... never happened.

And I totally blame management. If this was purely an ice time issue it would be remedied with WD's firing. It's a problem with the organization. Plus he's probably just more comfortable in Russia. A competent management team maybe could have found a way to make him stick around, though. Or if this team/organization wasn't, you know, a total tire fire.

Meanwhile, Botch is off committing seppuku somewhere following this news.

In hindsight, yeah. It's a bit of a chicken/egg scenario though too... if they had leveraged Tryamkin's popularity with the fans, maybe he feels more at home in the city? Surely it would have helped seeing people with his jersey on around town, getting more of a chance to integrate into the community, etc.

There are some aspects of this where it comes down to the player's own personal decision to go back home. At the same time, it's a massive human resources fail from a group that has been dog **** at management/the business side of running an $800M $700M organization from day one.

 

[jimmythescot]

For people questioning his annoyance regarding ice time, I'll restate that Sbisa played 2 minutes a game more than him.

I'd be annoyed too.

 

[Samzilla]

why can't we have nice things? ah well, gudbranson's probably doing fist pumps right about now

 

[vt89*]

Fun fact: Tryamkin will be playing in Yekaterinberg, the same city in which the Bolsheviks executed the Tsar and his family.

Just like how Benning is executing this franchise