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At a time where i was focused 110% on the canadiens. I dont think i have missed a game from 1995 to 2016... a few games of Joe Sakic here and there doesn't count.
Player Discussion Nick Suzuki Part 11
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At a time where i was focused 110% on the canadiens. I dont think i have missed a game from 1995 to 2016... a few games of Joe Sakic here and there doesn't count.
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I was a big Koivu fan. The only jersey I own.
He was a terrific player but he had trouble carrying the load of a 1C. Always looked like little brother battling big brother. Always the underdog going against other top C’s.
Lots of fight, but 20lbs light. If only he had a little of Mikko’s size.
Suze is an elite 200ft 1C.
He was a terrific player but he had trouble carrying the load of a 1C. Always looked like little brother battling big brother. Always the underdog going against other top C’s.
Lots of fight, but 20lbs light. If only he had a little of Mikko’s size.
Suze is an elite 200ft 1C.
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Suze reminds me so much of Bergeron, I think his offense is a little better. Suze that is.
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I’m sure after the season is done they will announce Suzuki has been playing injured in the playoffs with a broken back from carrying the other 3 lines into the playoffs.
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That and he made errant passes all night. I have to think something was wrong with his shoulder or something. Worst game I've seen from him in a long time.
Again though, he could've eaten nothing but donuts on the bench this series and I wouldn't have cared. His heroics down the stretch were amazing. Playoffs were a bonus.
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A nearly perfect season and he makes it look easy.
I hope he gets a nomination for the Lady Byng award (and maybe even win it?)
I hope he gets a nomination for the Lady Byng award (and maybe even win it?)
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I wonder if the fact we haven't heard anything means he wasn't given the green light to go play at the worlds.
That would be too bad. Sure he needs the rest, but a chance to sit on the bench with Crosby and MacKinnon, maybe get some PP time with them, would be huge.
Not to mention his Olympic team bid.
That would be too bad. Sure he needs the rest, but a chance to sit on the bench with Crosby and MacKinnon, maybe get some PP time with them, would be huge.
Not to mention his Olympic team bid.
Is he a franchise player? We haven't got one of those in a long time. Except Price but Price was a goalie.
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Interesting question. I’ve been sitting here thinking about it.
He’s the undisputed leader and it’s his team. He’s helped everyone develop and the only real offensive center we have. He’s also a legit number one center.
But the typical franchise player is usually a mega superstar like Nathan MacKinnon. Suzuki isn’t in that category.
Is Robert Thomas a franchise player? Is Hischier? That’s the class of player Suzuki is in.
Was Wendel Clark a franchise player?
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Here are the last 10 Stanley Cup Champions no.1 C when they won the cup:
Panthers - Barkov
G Knights - Eichel
Avs - MacKinnon
Bolts - Point
Bolts - Point
Blues - O'Reilly
Caps - Injured Backstrom/Kuznetsov
Pens - Crosby
Pens - Crosby
Hawks - Toews
Besides Crosby, MacKinnon and maybe Barkov, I'd definitely put Suzuki (with a good team around him) in the same tier as those other guys. Toews on a dynasty never hit PPG. Backstrom was injured throughout that playoff run to the point where Ovi needed to help him hold up the cup/Kuznetsov individually isn't better than Suzuki in any aspect of the game, O'Reilly isn't close to Suzuki offensively, and i truly believe if you give Suzuki a player like Kucherov in his prime which he may get with Demidov, he puts up better numbers than Point, plus he's better defensively. That leaves Eichel who I think is ahead of everyone in that tier imo. So Suzuki is no worse than most of the previous no.1 C's to win a cup. The difference between him and them is they actually had a dominant team around them
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MacKinnon, Crosby, Barkov, Point, Toews, Eichel are better then him
ROR can compare, Suzuki is better offensively but ROR is better defensively
I prefered Suzuki then Kuznetzov
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I disagree on Point. Suzuki is better defensively. And point not only played with Kuznetsov, but also played on a supertramp and the most he ever got was 95 points. Age wise, his 25 year old season was in 2021-22 where he got 58 pts in 66 games. Suzuki this year nearly got 90 pts (89) on a mid team. What if he was on a good team (formerly superteam) and playing with Kucherov like Point is, what would his offensive output be? Probably higher.
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I'm not sure what you're arguing here. I mean of course Suzuki's a number one. I think he may even qualify as a franchise player. It kinda depends on how you look at it.
I don't think Point's a franchise player. Do you? Eichel? Sure. Backstrom? No. Toews? Yeah... O'Reilly? No.
Ask a Leaf fan if Wendel Clark was a franchise player and I think many will say yes. The guy was a heart and soul type guy and really, really good. Got hurt a lot but he was amazing. Was he a franchise player though? I don't know.
In some ways Suzuki qualifies. He's THE leader on this team. Apart from some stretches from Caufield Suzuki's has always been our best player and there hasn't been a full season that he wasn't our best player at the end of it. But I don't have him in that mega superstar category. I think it depends on how you look at it.
When I think of 'franchise player' it's a no brainer type thing. They are generally better than an average superstar. Crosby, Mackinnon, Karlsson, Doughty, Ovechkin, Price, Lundqvist, Pronger... super elite.
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Point is a close to PPG in career player with 3 90pts + season and 4 40g season what Suzuki never did. and defensively they are comparable.
But yes, on that list he's the one who's the closest to Suzuki
