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Nick Robertson, what do you think about this Kid ?

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Twine Tickler said:
if not for the OHL starting up, I would keep Nick with the Marlies. It is exactly the level he is at. And quite frankly the AHL is a bit more physical, which plays harder into his deficiencies. He loses puck possession often due to the physical nature of the AHL. His skill level is 100% NHL ready, and maybe if he were to come up, depending on who he is lined up with could end up getting more space. But when you look at the root of his deficiencies it is 100% something that will play a factor in the show at the moment. Cycles tend to die on his tape because he is either losing 1 on 1 battles or getting pushed off the puck. Rather easily might I add. The point totals are great, but as some previous posters have said it is a tad fraudulent. #1 a handful of his assists were fluky secondary assists. #2 point totals never tell a true story. I am as high on Nick as anyone on this board, trust me. But he will struggle at the NHL level right now IMO. He will get points just because of his skill, but he will not come into the leafs right away and have the impact that Mitch/Willy/Auston had. I still think he is better off with the leafs vs the petes when the season fires up. He doesn't need to work on his skill and shot, which is what he would be doing in the O. He needs to get stronger, and learn how to compete against men. Which he can do in practice and limited games. I have no problem burning his 1st year ELC to get that development from him. And I certainly wouldn't just Healthy him every game. I'd give him probably 10-15 games depending on when he gets called up. Of course i could be completely wrong, and Nick could absolutely dominate at the NHL level right away, but from what I have seen so far I believe it will take a little time before he becomes that dominating player i think he projects to be
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paragraphs are your friend :laugh:
 
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Wafflewhipper said:
I’m going to keep a close eye on his rookie group who are basically all the same age. The Marlies are not a very good team yet. The quality of linemates he plays with are not great.
His defensive play is on point. Thats the most important development curve we likely want to see.
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Ya, I will say this. Positionally I have zero issues with him. He is where he needs to be, he is in the right supporting areas defensively and has an active stick to close out lanes. All very good characteristics. He thinks the game at a high level IMO. It really comes down to strength. Which is totally understandable, he is only 19. At the end of the day, if you were to ask me if he fully ready, I would say no. But he would be no less effective than Jimmy Vesey IMO. My only concern is that I do not want his confidence to be hindered by not producing at the NHL level. Because I am not 100% certain it will come right away if he is playing bottom 6. He is highly effective on the PP, and would play him on the RW wall for the 1T, it will at least give him some pts to make him feel good about himself. At the end of the day, the boys have a very healthy lead in the standings, and have afforded themselves the luxury to experiment a bit. I would play Nick like crazy until he no longer can play in the A, and then call him up and reward him. After all, ready or not, this kid has earned an opportunity. I think the guys in the room are pulling for him too. You can see that after he went to the bench when he scored in the blue/white. A lot of his team mates were giving him extra love for a meaningless goal in a meaningless game
 
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literally just having robertson on team as 12 man in limited role, but have him play on the PP, just having him on the PP helps us more than a lot of guys playing for us now...these guys you leave them alone right infront of net, and they cant buy one, we aint gonna win a series with these players...have we not learnt from last 3 playoff series that we gotta score goals to win games, and score big goals too

i had no problem burning a year of other young guys contracts last few years even when we were just a good team...now that we are looking like a great team that can maybe contend, i got ZERO problem burning a year off anyones contract, burn them all i want a cup.....i mean ya robertson can be more ready but look at the guys playing above him, they are less ready them him, just older
 
In comparison,
2019 5th overall pick: Alex Turcotte has 0 goals and 0 assists in 5 AHL Games this season.

Robertson is at near a PPG, with 6 points in 7 games so far in the AHL. After coming from a gruesome knee-injury.
 
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OB34KNH said:
In comparison,
2019 5th overall pick: Alex Turcotte has 0 goals and 0 assists in 5 AHL Games this season.

Robertson is at near a PPG, with 6 points in 7 games so far in the AHL. After coming from a gruesome knee-injury.
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Im hoping to see him on our big club and hoping he can make a difference and be part of our Leafs for many years .
 
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Lumberg said:
paragraphs are your friend :laugh:
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Let the kid play 20 mins a night, let him get used to the professional rigours. We don’t need to burn a year off his contract. He is progressing very well and that is all we need to see from a 19 year old.

Next year when the cap will be flat again having him for three years at under a million will be a god send. Hopefully both he an Amirov can make that leap.
 
He's a keeper.

I've been very impressed with his drive in puck battles. Dare I say he has a lot of similarities in how he plays, minus the personality characeristics, to... Brad Marchand?
 
The Assclown said:
He's a keeper.

I've been very impressed with his drive in puck battles. Dare I say he has a lot of similarities in how he plays, minus the personality characeristics, to... Brad Marchand?
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I am not sure he has the same bite to his game as Marchy. Just don't see the ability to agitate as much as Marchand. Someone here said Cam Atkinson. I think that is the best Comp in the NHL. Persistent, undersized, great shot, reads the play very well, pure goal scorer
 
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BertCorbeau said:
Per the comments in the Marlies thread, his puck management has been a bit questionable the last couple of games with some turnovers. Which is to be expected with a kid coming out of junior.

I'd be excited to see him get called up, but a stronger part of me wants to leverage this situation where he can develop in the AHL a little to iron out some kinks in his game before getting called up with the big boys.

The Leafs are performing well and are sorting out the depth they have already. And if we're expecting a 19 year old rookie to help fix Tavares and Nylander's line, I think we have bigger problems (not to mention the pressure :laugh:). I'd like to slow our roll a bit here and ensure he's developed properly, especially because they have the chance to have him in the AHL now and not the O.
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I think the plan is to leave him in the A.

Trying to gauge the player movement with him, the only thing I can glean is that they want him playing against men now.
Not kids.
 
Twine Tickler said:
I am not sure he has the same bite to his game as Marchy. Just don't see the ability to agitate as much as Marchand. Someone here said Cam Atkinson. I think that is the best Comp in the NHL. Persistent, undersized, great shot, reads the play very well, pure goal scorer
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That's a great comparable!
 
I'm frustrated on behalf of Robertson. He skips the WJC to work out and prepare to make the Leafs and as soon as he gets a shot to do so he's knocked out for weeks with an unfortunate injury. Then when he's healthy again that opportunity to play on the Leafs this season is never given back, as the organization is content to let him play for the Marlies. Through no fault of his own and piss poor luck he's lost the chance to make an impact on the big club.
 
Jimmy Firecracker said:
I'm frustrated on behalf of Robertson. He skips the WJC to work out and prepare to make the Leafs and as soon as he gets a shot to do so he's knocked out for weeks with an unfortunate injury. Then when he's healthy again that opportunity to play on the Leafs this season is never given back, as the organization is content to let him play for the Marlies. Through no fault of his own and piss poor luck he's lost the chance to make an impact on the big club.
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I think this could work out for the best. Although he would have had a chance to make an impact on the Leafs, I'd rather having him playing every day in a key role for the Marlies than be hanging out on the third/fourth line for the Leafs. Maybe he would have been able to find a spot in the top 6, but from what I've read it sounds like he's not quite there. I can see the points he's put up but then there's also mention of the turnovers, needing to get stronger, etc. I don't want to rush his development just because we have a hole in our top 6; better to address that through a trade at the deadline unless the team is very confident he is ready.
 
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