Confirmed with Link: Nick Ritchie to Toronto (2x2.5M AAV)

[Fogelhund]

Cheap. LW. Willing to play in Canada.Would be my guess.

Clearly it's more than that... but yes, the cap hit fits.

 

[Coachcorner]

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thanks but I know what I saw. Of course Ritchie has his flaws, but it’s being exaggerated by people like you.

also reports are he’s spent his entire summer working on his skating, which certainly can’t hurt

ice to hear sire! Ritchie GON KILL BIG TYME IN TO SIRE!! Toroonto is the city to be and be ON THAT ICE HOCKEY SIRE. FOR LIFE : :leaf: :maple leaf: So many others is jelious and not being in hockey's mecca. Others is suckas. Ritchie has ARRIVED. He doing that during summer..... mayne we gon be much more itchy and scratchy this season with ritchie, our lemieux type of pest bunting, simmonds... and gabriel (with mikayla demaiter). What a catch by US

 

[All Mod Cons]

Clearly it's more than that... but yes, the cap hit fits.

They sign a dozen cheap cast off guys every year. They did last year, they'll do so going forward (with our cap structure). I wouldn't read too much into it.

If you're cheap, willing to play in Canada, and you play a position we're short in, we're likely interested in you.

 

[Lauro]

I have the feeling that Ritchie will be the biggest disappointment of our new acquired players. Hopefully I'm totally wrong.

 

[ACC1224]

I have the feeling that Ritchie will be the biggest disappointment of our new acquired players. Hopefully I'm totally wrong.

Hope you're wrong as well.
He's the player I'm most excited to see what he'll bring.

 

[zeke]

They sign a dozen cheap cast off guys every year. They did last year, they'll do so going forward (with our cap structure). I wouldn't read too much into it.

If you're cheap, willing to play in Canada, and you play a position we're short in, we're likely interested in you.

there were many cheaper options than Ritchie.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

there were many cheaper options than Ritchie.

Who some adv stats queen. This statement has zero relevance. You post all the cheaper option that compare identically to what Ritchie brings then champ. Just baseless statements without content is not going to cut it.
Put up your list

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I have the feeling that Ritchie will be the biggest disappointment of our new acquired players. Hopefully I'm totally wrong.

A feeling. Well i have at least a educated guess he will be a nice role player for us. I happen to think he is in a good position where he will be playing with the best quality of players in his career these next couple years.
I think he is in the best position of success of his career. I’m feeling career year

 

[4thline]

Who some adv stats queen. This statement has zero relevance. You post all the cheaper option that compare identically to what Ritchie brings then champ. Just baseless statements without content is not going to cut it.
Put up your list

I think you're missing the point. Zeke's saying that Ritchie wasn't some bargain basement add, he was someone we identified as a target and spent money on.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I think you're missing the point. Zeke's saying that Ritchie wasn't some bargain basement add, he was someone we identified as a target and spent money on.

Oh haha

 

[hotpaws]

I never felt strongly about Vesey either way, nor do I feel strong here particularly, but there is undeniable potential for a good fit. We will see what happens.

As for your first paragraph, you go ahead and keep thinking that… or you can join the rest of us in reality

i could also say there's potential for a large number of players to be a ''fit'' in our top 6 so that's not really saying much about Ritchie

i'd love to know what reality you say your living in where you believe Ritchie played well for Boston but they decided not to qualify him because um reasons , i guess Ana which used a high 1st on him also misused him lol

now if you believe he'll be more productive playing in our top 6 i'll agree but he'll need to do more than just hang around the net vulturing some points

 

[Sypher04]

i could also say there's potential for a large number of players to be a ''fit'' in our top 6 so that's not really saying much about Ritchie

i'd love to know what reality you say your living in where you believe Ritchie played well for Boston but they decided not to qualify him because um reasons , i guess Ana which used a high 1st on him also misused him lol

now if you believe he'll be more productive playing in our top 6 i'll agree but he'll need to do more than just hang around the net vulturing some points

I already explained the reasons to you. Not my problem if you don’t accept them for some unknown reason.

And given that he didn’t just vulture points hanging around the net in Boston or Anaheim, I have little concern that’s gonna be a problem here. Not that he didn’t spend a lot of time around the net, I just don’t see it being this negative degree you decided to take.

Actually, to be honest, on this club we could kinda use a guy who just wants to be up in their goalie’s business all night…

 

[hotpaws]

I already explained the reasons to you. Not my problem if you don’t accept them for some unknown reason.

And given that he didn’t just vulture points hanging around the net in Boston or Anaheim, I have little concern that’s gonna be a problem here. Not that he didn’t spend a lot of time around the net, I just don’t see it being this negative degree you decided to take.

Actually, to be honest, on this club we could kinda use a guy who just wants to be up in their goalie’s business all night…

you gave your opinion why they didn't re-sign him but for some reason you believe it's a fact which is strange since teams don't just walk away from cheap productive players in their mid 20's

do you actually believe if Ritchie was half the player you and others keep insisting he was Boston wouldn't have qualified him ? hell he'd still be with the Ducks if he played anywhere near the level people believe he did

and lets say for argument sake the Ducks and Bruins are idiots , do you actually believe the rest of the league are also incompetent fools as well and that's why they didn't outbid us for a huge youngish physical player with some skill ?

also it's one thing to have some hope he can step it up if he can but to constantly set yourself up for disappointed year after year by over estimating the scrap heap guys is nuts

 

[Sypher04]

you gave your opinion why they didn't re-sign him but for some reason you believe it's a fact which is strange since teams don't just walk away from cheap productive players in their mid 20's

do you actually believe if Ritchie was half the player you and others keep insisting he was Boston wouldn't have qualified him ? hell he'd still be with the Ducks if he played anywhere near the level people believe he did

and lets say for argument sake the Ducks and Bruins are idiots , do you actually believe the rest of the league are also incompetent fools as well and that's why they didn't outbid us for a huge youngish physical player with some skill ?

also it's one thing to have some hope he can step it up if he can but to constantly set yourself up for disappointed year after year by over estimating the scrap heap guys is nuts

I’m not going to defend myself against arguments I never made.

 

[hotpaws]

I’m not going to defend myself against arguments I never made.

i'm not attacking you

i'm just responding to your argument that Ritchie played well for Boston but they didn't re-sign him which they easily could have done because um he's a top 6 player who doesn't fit the 3rd line , lol

and um the rest of the league was also sleeping while Dubie snuck in and snapped up a youngish huge physical somewhat skilled power forward for peanuts

the problem with these discussions is they wouldn't even get started if people would just take off there blue and white tinted glasses and look at things objectively instead of trying to defend illogical positions

 

[LeafChief]

Watching some clips of Ritchie's goals from last season. A lot from in and around tight to the net. Also a surprising amount of one-timer goals.

 

[Sypher04]

i'm not attacking you

i'm just responding to your argument that Ritchie played well for Boston but they didn't re-sign him which they easily could have done because um he's a top 6 player who doesn't fit the 3rd line , lol

and um the rest of the league was also sleeping while Dubie snuck in and snapped up a youngish huge physical somewhat skilled power forward for peanuts

the problem with these discussions is they wouldn't even get started if people would just take off there blue and white tinted glasses and look at things objectively instead of trying to defend illogical positions

Not attacking per se, but once again attempting to put words in my mouth with your misrepresentations of what I said.

and just because I don’t see this how you do, doesn’t mean that I’m the one not looking at things objectively or logically.

The arbitration side of this has been talked about by a bunch of places, and I have watched more than a good enough amount of Ritchie to hold my opinion, so this isn’t just me pulling things out of my ass to fit a narrative.

it’s also plain to see to anyone who tuned in that Ritchie’s effectiveness took a huge hit when he (rightfully) got pushed down the lineup by a freshly acquired Hall.

I’ve never once positioned this as some steal by Dubas or some gotcha where he grabbed some great player no one else was aware of. I’ve never once talked about Dubas at all in fact nor have I made any predications of how well I think Ritchie will do as a Leaf. So not even sure what I am allegedly not being objective about.

 

[4thline]

If all Ritchie is is literally what he has shown the last two seasons, no next gear, no boost from better linemates "just" a ~19 goal, 19 assist borderline top 6 power forward, that's a good thing at 2.5m.

 

[hotpaws]

Not attacking per se, but once again attempting to put words in my mouth with your misrepresentations of what I said.

and just because I don’t see this how you do, doesn’t mean that I’m the one not looking at things objectively or logically.

The arbitration side of this has been talked about by a bunch of places, and I have watched more than a good enough amount of Ritchie to hold my opinion, so this isn’t just me pulling things out of my ass to fit a narrative.

it’s also plain to see to anyone who tuned in that Ritchie’s effectiveness took a huge hit when he (rightfully) got pushed down the lineup by a freshly acquired Hall.

I’ve never once positioned this as some steal by Dubas or some gotcha where he grabbed some great player no one else was aware of. I’ve never once talked about Dubas at all in fact nor have I made any predications of how well I think Ritchie will do as a Leaf. So not even sure what I am allegedly not being objective about.

tbh i don't even know what your trying to say any more , lol

on the one hand your downplaying what your expecting out of him but on the other hand your saying he played well when given an opportunity and would have been paid well in arb if Boston qualified him

 

[Sypher04]

tbh i don't even know what your trying to say any more , lol

on the one hand your downplaying what your expecting out of him but on the other hand your saying he played well when given an opportunity and would have been paid well in arb if Boston qualified him

doesn’t seen that complicated to me.

Ritchie probably gets even more than we paid him on an arbitration award. His numbers are his numbers. The contrast of his effectiveness when he was bottom 6 vs top 6 doesn’t really come into it. Based on what the Bruins believed his award could be if he were to file, they didn’t value him to that tune based on his body of work in their bottom 6, as he would see no top 6 time most likely barring injuries, and so they decided to forego his QO.

If he plays top 6 all season, I think he could do quite well. If he doesn’t, then he’ll have a harder time being good value.

 

[hotpaws]

doesn’t seen that complicated to me.

Ritchie probably gets even more than we paid him on an arbitration award. His numbers are his numbers. The contrast of his effectiveness when he was bottom 6 vs top 6 doesn’t really come into it. Based on what the Bruins believed his award could be if he were to file, they didn’t value him to that tune based on his body of work in their bottom 6, so they decided to forego his QO.

If he plays top 6 all season, I think he could do quite well. If he doesn’t, then he’ll have a harder time being good value.

what was stopping Boston from re-signing him before arbitration ? absolutely nothing so i have no idea why it's even being discussed , never mind acting like it was a lock that he was going to get awarded a large payday

and don't confuse production with effectiveness , a player can produce by leaching off his line mates but not be an effective player and that's the reason Ritchie wasn't retained by Boston and why i have little expectations of him magically turning into a different player here

 

[Sypher04]

what was stopping Boston from re-signing him before arbitration ? absolutely nothing so i have no idea why it's even being discussed , never mind acting like it was a lock that he was going to get awarded a large payday

and don't confuse production with effectiveness , a player can produce by leaching off his line mates but not be an effective player and that's the reason Ritchie wasn't retained by Boston and why i have little expectations of him magically turning into a different player here

no confusion here. I know exactly what I saw

It’s pretty clear you and I are not going to agree, so how about we just call it here. I abhor circular arguments.

 

[All Mod Cons]

there were many cheaper options than Ritchie.

Ok. But, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

 

[TML Dynasty]

This is becoming a painful read.

I hope he steps up his compete level and becomes the power forward type we need. I hope he further elevates his game against Boston too for not qualifying him. Im hopeful.

 

[Tarmore]

You likely have the person being quoted on ignore. They incorrectly stated that he didn't play well and that's why Boston let him go.

Lol, I think you are correct and that makes a lot of sense!

I recently found that several posters allowed to post in the Leafs forum's only goal was to only put a negative spin on everything. As a result I put a bunch on ignore, by doing so has made this board MUCH more enjoyable for me personally. I past years I completely avoided this HF between seasons because of posters like that. This year I was able to continue to enjoy HF in the off-season.