Proposal: Nick Leddy to Winnipeg for Jack Roslovic, 2nd 2021

[CupHolders]

Crazy that Isles fans are willing to receive such a small package for a top pairing D.

More a reflection of how well their younger d-man have been developing. With that said agree with @miscs75, Leddy has been terrific thus far with Greene in the playoffs.

 

[miscs75]

We don't want to trade him, but we need to dump cap. And he's the most logical to trade to dump cap as he has value league wide and the NYI have enough depth on defense to withstand losing him.

I mean if someone would take Ladd, I would love to keep Leddy. But can't envision anyone taking Ladd without a huge over payment.

I’m sure a guy like Melnyk would love Ladd to help waste roster space.

 

[PWJunior]

I’m sure a guy like Melnyk would love Ladd to help waste roster space.

Boychuk actually makes sense for Ottawa, he is only owed $1.25M and $4M in real money with a $6M cap hit. If he would approve a trade there, he could be a really good veteran mentor for a young defense group and he can still play. He wouldn't need to be protected in the ED as it's doubtful Seattle would take him.

Ladd is unmovable. Lou needs to get a shady doctor to pull a Hossa to put him on LTIR.

 

[miscs75]

Boychuk actually makes sense for Ottawa, he is only owed $1.25M and $4M in real money with a $6M cap hit. If he would approve a trade there, he could be a really good veteran mentor for a young defense group and he can still play. He wouldn't need to be protected in the ED as it's doubtful Seattle would take him.

Ladd is unmovable. Lou needs to get a shady doctor to pull a Hossa to put him on LTIR.

There’s also an NHL quality guy on a decent contract by the name of Thomas Hickey. I can see him getting moved for a mid round pick clearing up another $2.5m in space. Lou will pull some magic out of thin air that no one will know how it happened. Watch him trade the 1st round pick to Seattle for them to take Ladd or JB.

 

[PWJunior]

There’s also an NHL quality guy on a decent contract by the name of Thomas Hickey. I can see him getting moved for a mid round pick clearing up another $2.5m in space. Lou will pull some magic out of thin air that no one will know how it happened. Watch him trade the 1st round pick to Seattle for them to take Ladd or JB.

The ED is still a year away so it's too hard to predict anything now.

I would love nothing more to get rid of Hickey, but he can be buried in the the AHL again to save $1M in cap space. I pray that there is a team that would want him, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm pretty biased though since I've been one of his harshest critics for a while.

 

[miscs75]

The ED is still a year away so it's too hard to predict anything now.

I would love nothing more to get rid of Hickey, but he can be buried in the the AHL again to save $1M in cap space. I pray that there is a team that would want him, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm pretty biased though since I've been one of his harshest critics for a while.

He’d be a bottom pairing defenseman this year if it wasn’t for Dobson playing well above his age. They need to find a way out of the Boychuk, Ladd, Leddy, Cal, Leo and Hickey contracts in the long run. Thankfully Cal, Leo, Hickey, JB and Leddy all end the same summer which is a huge cap relief. Ladd will possibly be LTIR if he goes down with another injury.

 

[The Real JT]

Still holding out hope for a 1st for Leddy. People say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one.

True enough but on another note:

Well, can you put your hands in your head? Oh no!

 

[voyageur]

I can't believe that Isles fans would give up on Leddy that easily. I mean move Johnny Boychuk, who isn't cut out for the NHL pace anymore, and you still have Pulock and Dobson on the right side. Room for the Parise/Ladd trade that should happen, and room to re-sign Barzal, Pulock and Toews.

 

[Forge]

I can't believe that Isles fans would give up on Leddy that easily. I mean move Johnny Boychuk, who isn't cut out for the NHL pace anymore, and you still have Pulock and Dobson on the right side. Room for the Parise/Ladd trade that should happen, and room to re-sign Barzal, Pulock and Toews.

The Islanders would have to attach a pretty good asset to boychuk to move him. 2 years, 6 million each? That's brutal. And the isles have no first round of this year as it is. I'm not sure what they give to make that happen.

 

[CREW99AW]

Even if it’s a 2nd, Roslovic is still a quality middle 6 piece that would fit nice alongside JGP.

He'll be coming off his ELC and looking for a raise. My thought was saving $ for Barzal/Pulock/Toews

 

[CREW99AW]

Probably because they're shopping him now, and not in 2015 Leddy has been a disaster in the past few seasons and his contract is an albatross.

Leddy's contract is not an albatross. When injuries hit and his workload greatly increased, he struggled.
Now that the isles are healthy and he is not being asked to log a ton of top pairing mins, his play has improved.
He is still a good top 4.

With the isles depth on the blue line he is expendable.

 

[CREW99AW]

The Islanders would have to attach a pretty good asset to boychuk to move him. 2 years, 6 million each? That's brutal. And the isles have no first round of this year as it is. I'm not sure what they give to make that happen.

Boychuk is owed a total of $5.2m in actual salary for the next 2 seasons. Hardly brutal for a veteran RHD, who is still solid in his own end and a locker room leader,

 

[miscs75]

He'll be coming off his ELC and looking for a raise. My thought was saving $ for Barzal/Pulock/Toews

I figured that as well. I’m not sure what his value is in terms of a contract. I’m guessing around $2m or so which is less then half of Leddy.

 

[Tres Peleches]

Crazy that Isles fans are willing to receive such a small package for a top pairing D.

We don’t parade him around as such. Back when we traded for him, we hoped he would become one. But he’s settled in nicely as a 2nd pair d-man.

In a cap world, unfortunately there will be cap casualties. The Isles are VERY deep on D, and Leddy is the one player on this team whose larger contract may actually be movable without having to give up assets to dump him

 

[Heldig]

Jets should not be trading young assets for a guy they cant protect in the expansion draft.

 

[PWJunior]

Boychuk is owed a total of $5.2m in actual salary for the next 2 seasons. Hardly brutal for a veteran RHD, who is still solid in his own end and a locker room leader,

Boychuk won't be easy to move, but it won't be impossible. It cracks me up when people suggest the Isles will have to part with someone like Dobson as a sweetener to move him. I've seen that exact thought here and there around HF, just say no to drugs man.

 

[Forge]

Boychuk is owed a total of $5.2m in actual salary for the next 2 seasons. Hardly brutal for a veteran RHD, who is still solid in his own end and a locker room leader,

Your prospective pool of trade partners is limited to the dregs of the league who need the cap hit, and one of those teams, New Jersey, doesn't need him.

Teams with any hope of being competitive won't take him on like they may with leddy who is cheaper in cap hit and a better player. You'll have to add an asset to ship boychuk off. It is not an easy deal to move, only further complicated by a modified ntc. The actual money owed is enticing for a team like Ottawa, but they don't do that for free

 

[Forge]

Boychuk won't be easy to move, but it won't be impossible. It cracks me up when people suggest the Isles will have to part with someone like Dobson as a sweetener to move him. I've seen that exact thought here and there around HF, just say no to drugs man.

Who said anything about Dobson? The isles sent giving up Dobson in a cap dump

 

[CREW99AW]

I figured that as well. I’m not sure what his value is in terms of a contract. I’m guessing around $2m or so which is less then half of Leddy.

With raises due Barzal/Toews/Pulock, I wonder if the isles wouldn't prefer one of their AHL forwards to make the team on an ELC instead.

 

[CREW99AW]

Your prospective pool of trade partners is limited to the dregs of the league who need the cap hit, and one of those teams, New Jersey, doesn't need him.

Teams with any hope of being competitive won't take him on like they may with leddy who is cheaper in cap hit and a better player. You'll have to add an asset to ship boychuk off. It is not an easy deal to move, only further complicated by a modified ntc. The actual money owed is enticing for a team like Ottawa, but they don't do that for free

Fortunately Boychuk is still a solid D. Teams looking for a RHD veteran, who brings leadership could have interest.

 

[KrisBeKreame]

Who said anything about Dobson? The isles sent giving up Dobson in a cap dump

Not here but in other threads people have told Islander fans they will be forced to give up Dobson to move anyone this offseason.

 

[miscs75]

With raises due Barzal/Toews/Pulock, I wonder if the isles wouldn't prefer one of their AHL forwards to make the team on an ELC instead.

As would I but Lou loves his veterans. I’d love to see them clear out of these players without taking a substantial return back or giving up anything of value but we know it won’t happen:
Ladd - one step away from a wheelchair
Boychuk
Hickey - can possibly trade him for a mid-late round pick
Clutterbuck - 1 step away from a wheelchair
Komarov

 

[PWJunior]

Who said anything about Dobson? The isles sent giving up Dobson in a cap dump

Sorry, not you. It's definitely something I've seen around other parts of HF though. It's typically confined to team boards, but the really delusional ones will bring a gem like that to the mains on occasion.

 

[bert]

Honestly, I'd be surprised if someone has to pay that much for Leddy, but I could also be underestimating the demand on Leddy, which is basically what it will amount to (or overestimating the cap crunch). He's not a negative asset by any stretch, but everyone knows that they have to get rid of him. I would just expect nothing but low ball offers.

I think if a team likes a player and knows he can play in their top 4 they will offer something adequate. He is certainly not a cap dump by any means, the Islanders should be able to recoup a few picks for him.

What about this for a basis of a deal?

To Winnipeg: Leddy, Strome

To Chicago: 21, 33, 64

To Ottawa: 10

To NYI: 55

 

[miscs75]

Not here but in other threads people have told Islander fans they will be forced to give up Dobson to move anyone this offseason.

Who was that Rangers fans who don’t realize he’s better then any prospect they have at the moment or Leafs fans who still think the Isles want to move Mayfield for Nylander.