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Yup, gimme a 2nd and a pretty decent prospect….
He‘s very effective and can eat minutes in a good top 4.
He‘s very effective and can eat minutes in a good top 4.
Caps fan here, not worth a first but to a contender that is not Boston or Toronto, he is worth a 1st for both sides.What's he worth if Washington decides to move him? Saw some Caps fans say he's worth a 1st. Not so sure myself.
He’ll get about what he got last time. That was a 2nd and Bowey.What's he worth if Washington decides to move him? Saw some Caps fans say he's worth a 1st. Not so sure myself.
I keep trying to understand what this means and I'm still confusedCaps fan here, not worth a first but to a contender that is not Boston or Toronto, he is worth a 1st for both sides.
If there is a bidding war then yes. There is always more demand for RD, with less supply. A '23 2nd rounder should be right. If a team gets desperate, then a 1st rounder in a weaker draft or if the team is ranked like the Bruins are.What's he worth if Washington decides to move him? Saw some Caps fans say he's worth a 1st. Not so sure myself.
If you want Jensen with max 50% of his cap hit retained($1.25 million), then it will cost you a 1st. Max retained of a players contract so they fit within a teams salary cap, is costly. It's why you don't see a lot of 50% retained in trades, unless a 3rd team gets involved. 3-way trades can get complicated and fall apart.In the Oilers case I don't think we'd be willing to part with a 1st for him. Not sure about other teams. I could see a 2nd, a 4th and Puljujarvi to make the cap work for Jensen with 50% retention.
Why do you have our 2 best D-men not named Brodie getting sheltered minutes?If Toronto is looking to add on the blueline now, Jensen is the guy. Very solid defensively, but mobile enough to extend OZ possessions and create chances. Would fit in very well with how Toronto plays.
Brodie/Jensen - high leverage defensive minutes
Giordano/Holl - secondary leverage minutes
Rielly/Liljegren - sheltered offensive minutes
I’d offer any prospect in the leafs system not named Minten or Knies for Jensen. Or I would offer a 2024 1st lol.If you want Jensen with max 50% of his cap hit retained($1.25 million), then it will cost you a 1st. Max retained of a players contract so they fit within a teams salary cap, is costly. It's why you don't see a lot of 50% retained in trades, unless a 3rd team gets involved. 3-way trades can get complicated and fall apart.
Jensen playing on the 3rd d-pairing? He's well suited for 2nd pairing. If the Leafs were to do that, then they should go for a lesser cost d-man.Why do you have our 2 best D-men not named Brodie getting sheltered minutes?
If the leafs traded for a RD it would be Holl sitting not Sandin.
It would be
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Sandin-Jensen
Doesn’t Washington want to re-tool not re-build? I’m surprised Jensen is available. Are they planning to blow it up completely? Who is going to play defence for Washington next year?Jensen playing on the 3rd d-pairing? He's well suited for 2nd pairing. If the Leafs were to do that, then they should go for a lesser cost d-man.
Caps will gladly take the Leafs '24 1st. I'm just not sure Dubas will be willing to do that for a rental, unless Jensen signs a new deal with them. Sounds like Muzzin's career could be over with that spine injury?I’d offer any prospect in the leafs system not named Minten or Knies for Jensen. Or I would offer a 2024 1st lol.
If Jensen can't be extended before the deadline, the Caps run too much of a risk losing him for nothing. It's the reason Orlov was traded. Orlov wants 6 years and the Caps were only offering 3 years.Doesn’t Washington want to re-tool not re-build? I’m surprised Jensen is available. Are they planning to blow it up completely? Who is going to play defence for Washington next year?
Muzzin is done for this season and playoffs. Not sure about his career but possibly career ending. Jensen would be a solid upgrade on Holl.Caps will gladly take the Leafs '24 1st. I'm just not sure Dubas will be willing to do that for a rental, unless Jensen signs a new deal with them. Sounds like Muzzin's career could be over with that spine injury?
If Jensen can't be extended before the deadline, the Caps run too much of a risk losing him for nothing. It's the reason Orlov was traded. Orlov wants 6 years and the Caps were only offering 3 years.
This is objectively stupid. Washington will not trade Jensen (a pretty clear Top 4 DMan whose competition metrics are pretty close to elite) for a 3rd + 6th.Not worth a 1st, maybe a 3rd + 6th
Jensen isn't signed for next year, he's going to be a UFA after this season.I would like to see him in EDM plus he is signed for next year.2nd Pulju. Add a 4 for cap retention.it is not like it will be much money and then 5 to another team for 50% retention. Gives EDM a bit more money for a depth centre.
Because Rielly is not that good. He is so massively overrated it's not even funny. Absolutely no exaggeration, he might be the single worst rush defender in the NHL. Any 1v1 rush against is an automatic high-danger scoring chance. I even see him routinely turn 1v2s into scoring chances against. He is a massive liability defensively and all the data, analytics, and eye test support this.Why do you have our 2 best D-men not named Brodie getting sheltered minutes?
If the leafs traded for a RD it would be Holl sitting not Sandin.
It would be
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Sandin-Jensen