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Yup, gimme a 2nd and a pretty decent prospect….
He‘s very effective and can eat minutes in a good top 4.
He‘s very effective and can eat minutes in a good top 4.
Value of: Nick Jensen
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- Jul 7, 2006
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The Caps probably need to extend Jensen. Hard to imagine Gustafsson & TVR will be adequate enough going forward, even if they were to add a Chychrun to the mix to offset the loss of Orlov.
A second plus would be decent but unless Jensen is demanding a lot of term they're likely better off keeping him. Who really needs a second pair RD? Toronto? Maybe Colorado? Dallas?
A second plus would be decent but unless Jensen is demanding a lot of term they're likely better off keeping him. Who really needs a second pair RD? Toronto? Maybe Colorado? Dallas?
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Jensen is a player I prefer they keep rather than trade, but it will depend on how much term he's looking for on his next deal (which could be his last meaningful NHL contract, given that he's 32).
If he's traded, he's probably worth similar to what he was when the Capitals traded for him a while ago. 2nd + B prospect.
If he's traded, he's probably worth similar to what he was when the Capitals traded for him a while ago. 2nd + B prospect.
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Not worth a 1st, maybe a 3rd + 6th
CapsFrontOffice
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Caps fan here, not worth a first but to a contender that is not Boston or Toronto, he is worth a 1st for both sides.
If Toronto is looking to add on the blueline now, Jensen is the guy. Very solid defensively, but mobile enough to extend OZ possessions and create chances. Would fit in very well with how Toronto plays.
Brodie/Jensen - high leverage defensive minutes
Giordano/Holl - secondary leverage minutes
Rielly/Liljegren - sheltered offensive minutes
Brodie/Jensen - high leverage defensive minutes
Giordano/Holl - secondary leverage minutes
Rielly/Liljegren - sheltered offensive minutes
Petes2424
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He’ll get about what he got last time. That was a 2nd and Bowey.
I keep trying to understand what this means and I'm still confused
SherVaughn30
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If there is a bidding war then yes. There is always more demand for RD, with less supply. A '23 2nd rounder should be right. If a team gets desperate, then a 1st rounder in a weaker draft or if the team is ranked like the Bruins are.
If we get the Oilers 2nd + 4th thats suggested here id be fine. No problem taking a 20 game look at Puljujarvi in a different scenery either.
But also fine if we keep him for resigning purposes. That should be priority, but obviously depends on what he is demanding.
But also fine if we keep him for resigning purposes. That should be priority, but obviously depends on what he is demanding.
SherVaughn30
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If you want Jensen with max 50% of his cap hit retained($1.25 million), then it will cost you a 1st. Max retained of a players contract so they fit within a teams salary cap, is costly. It's why you don't see a lot of 50% retained in trades, unless a 3rd team gets involved. 3-way trades can get complicated and fall apart.
Why do you have our 2 best D-men not named Brodie getting sheltered minutes?
If the leafs traded for a RD it would be Holl sitting not Sandin.
It would be
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Sandin-Jensen
SherVaughn30
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Whether it's with the Caps or another team that gives Jensen a new contract, it will be something like 3 years @ $4 million per year. The $2.5 million cap hit he's had with the Caps, was a bargain. 2nd pairing d-men normally don't get paid that low of a cap hit.
I’d offer any prospect in the leafs system not named Minten or Knies for Jensen. Or I would offer a 2024 1st lol.
SherVaughn30
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Jensen playing on the 3rd d-pairing? He's well suited for 2nd pairing. If the Leafs were to do that, then they should go for a lesser cost d-man.
Doesn’t Washington want to re-tool not re-build? I’m surprised Jensen is available. Are they planning to blow it up completely? Who is going to play defence for Washington next year?
SherVaughn30
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Caps will gladly take the Leafs '24 1st. I'm just not sure Dubas will be willing to do that for a rental, unless Jensen signs a new deal with them. Sounds like Muzzin's career could be over with that spine injury?
If Jensen can't be extended before the deadline, the Caps run too much of a risk losing him for nothing. It's the reason Orlov was traded. Orlov wants 6 years and the Caps were only offering 3 years.
Muzzin is done for this season and playoffs. Not sure about his career but possibly career ending. Jensen would be a solid upgrade on Holl.
I would like to see him in EDM plus he is signed for next year.2nd Pulju. Add a 4 for cap retention.it is not like it will be much money and then 5 to another team for 50% retention. Gives EDM a bit more money for a depth centre.
StephenPeat
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This is objectively stupid. Washington will not trade Jensen (a pretty clear Top 4 DMan whose competition metrics are pretty close to elite) for a 3rd + 6th.
I’d peg his value as a 2nd+ but I’m leaning towards Washington trying to keep him, his style of play tends to age well. He’ll be a cheap, effective contributor for the Capitals or someone else for several more seasons.
- Feb 13, 2019
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Jensen isn't signed for next year, he's going to be a UFA after this season.
Because Rielly is not that good. He is so massively overrated it's not even funny. Absolutely no exaggeration, he might be the single worst rush defender in the NHL. Any 1v1 rush against is an automatic high-danger scoring chance. I even see him routinely turn 1v2s into scoring chances against. He is a massive liability defensively and all the data, analytics, and eye test support this.
I'd argue a large degree of his production is also just because of opportunity. He's force-fed ES offensive minutes and PP1 time. Anyone will put up points in that situation. He is a great skater, which helps him activate and jump in the rush, but he doesn't have the awareness to be a real elite chance creator from the backend, like a Makar or Fox or Karlsson. He should be used in sheltered minutes.
Holl does a lot of good things that casual fans don't see. He gets to the puck on retrievals and moves it. He turns rushes against into dump-ins. He's a top-four defenseman.
Jensen will return slightly more than what he was traded for. He was a late bloomer to begin with and only became a better player in DC. I'd say he goes for a 2nd and a talented prospect(bowey was a bust at the time of the trade to DET) or if the caps aren't interested in prospects per the "quick retool" rumors then I'd say the price becomes a 1st for draft capital to trade back out. Maybe he's packaged with Eller like the Orlov Hathaway deal for a 1st and another pick. Maybe a 3rd.
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