There is no way the Avs go the buyout route.I understand being pissed and wanting him gone, but i just cant get on board with wanting him gone at any cost. If the standard buyout is the only option, i cant see taking a 2 million cap hit for 12 years to do it
AgreedI understand being pissed and wanting him gone, but i just cant get on board with wanting him gone at any cost. If the standard buyout is the only option, i cant see taking a 2 million cap hit for 12 years to do it
That leaves them trading him, does he have value? Would we have to retain, what would be the market for him.There is no way the Avs go the buyout route.
I would!If they bring Val back after all this, would you boo him if you’re at the game?
Yep. It's been reported that the treatment in January was pushed onto him by management. It's obvious at this point that he either doesn't believe he has a problem or doesn't care.The most important thing is whether or not Val himself thinks he has an addiction and really wants help. If not then all this programs and stuff are a waste of time. He’s gonna continue doing what he’s doing if he doesn’t think he has an addiction and he’s actually having fun doing drugs
And that’s a real problemYep. It's been reported that the treatment in January was pushed onto him by management. It's obvious at this point that he either doesn't believe he has a problem or doesn't care.
If they bring Val back after all this, would you boo him if you’re at the game?
Or wait it out until he screws up.That leaves them trading him, does he have value? Would we have to retain, what would be the market for him.
Id lean towards doesn't care. Like a functional alcoholic, he got caught in a drug test. This time it wasn't no showing a practice and being found in a hotel room. Maybe the consequences finally get him to change his mind or maybe he looks at how much money he's already banked from his NHL deals and DGAF. Honestly though the family really surprises me. It's one thing to miss your old home and want to see friends and family there. It's another to live there these days. I mean what if when he retires they say thank you for those great years now go grab a gun because you have been drafted?Yep. It's been reported that the treatment in January was pushed onto him by management. It's obvious at this point that he either doesn't believe he has a problem or doesn't care.
Val goes back to Russia a hero and gets signed by a KHL team to sell tickets and dominate the league. He will be a political prop for a long time if he does that…only needing to get cleaned up for potential international competitions.Id lean towards doesn't care. Like a functional alcoholic, he got caught in a drug test. This time it wasn't no showing a practice and being found in a hotel room. Maybe the consequences finally get him to change his mind or maybe he looks at how much money he's already banked from his NHL deals and DGAF. Honestly though the family really surprises me. It's one thing to miss your old home and want to see friends and family there. It's another to live there these days. I mean what if when he retires they say thank you for those great years now go grab a gun because you have been drafted?
Personally I can't wait for the riot that ensues when he scores the OT winner against us for the Lightning while signed to league minimum.If they bring Val back after all this, would you boo him if you’re at the game?
Florida and Nuke huh. I see absolutely nothing going wrong with that combination.Personally I can't wait for the riot that ensues when he scores the OT winner against us for the Lightning while signed to league minimum.
It does matter to teams. If a player is a POS, but it can be hidden... they are more likely to keep that player over one that has public issues.PR for the outside doesn’t matter what would is what the room thinks of him. Plenty of athletes are pieces of **** and it is overlooked because of their impact on the game.
We are talking about a guy with a substance abuse problem, not a domestic abuser or worse.It does matter to teams. If a player is a POS, but it can be hidden... they are more likely to keep that player over one that has public issues.
A guy with substance abuse issues who is married and was caught in a hotel room with a prostitute... and spent his summer getting hammered and posed like a Russian gangster with an AK47. Pretty clear to see there are PR issues here.We are talking about a guy with a substance abuse problem, not a domestic abuser or worse.
Imagine if the NHL was popular enough to really give a shit -- imagine all this if he were an NBA player. That AK photo would have been front page news.A guy with substance abuse issues who is married and was caught in a hotel room with a prostitute... and spent his summer getting hammered and posed like a Russian gangster with an AK47. Pretty clear to see there are PR issues here.
The NHL would have their own Ja Morant!Imagine if the NHL was popular enough to really give a shit -- imagine all this if he were an NBA player. That AK photo would have been front page news.
Da Morant.The NHL would have their own Ja Morant!
And that's exactly what I was thinking of.The NHL would have their own Ja Morant!
Da Morant.
And that's exactly what I was thinking of.
None of what you described above were a major PR problem before. Why would they be now? I'm not trying to downplay those actions btw.A guy with substance abuse issues who is married and was caught in a hotel room with a prostitute... and spent his summer getting hammered and posed like a Russian gangster with an AK47. Pretty clear to see there are PR issues here.
They have been before and the Avs worked hard to minimize their impact. Any future issue will have even more of a lens shown on it because of those past issues. The Avs are sensitive to PR things which is why they work to control the narrative as much as possible.None of what you described above were a major PR problem before. Why would they be now? I'm not trying to downplay those actions btw.