Player Discussion Nicholas Robertson vs. Ryan Reaves

[Ianturnedbull]

A few games of slightly less bad opportunity mixed into a sea of bad opportunity is not great opportunity.

This is a triple negative. Did Robertson not get any opportunity with this organization?

 

[BraveCanadian]

This is a triple negative. Did Robertson not get any opportunity with this organization?

Not much of one so far tbh.. limited ice time with plugs isn’t how you develop small skill based forwards

 

[Gallagbi]

He's not massively better. That's hyperbole too.

When you look at Robertson's game logs:

1× over 15 min
4x over 14 min
1x over 16 min
1x over 17 min

Any player in the NHL could do a lot more with this opportunity. Reaves could for sure.

Robertson has been expensive for this organization. I'm not talking about his contract. I'm talking about the investment in this player: from drafting, the AHL, and now on the Leafs.

Reaves is a borderline unplayable 4th liner. He gets sheltered ES time and can't play in tight games. I want more from Robertson, but the game has passed Reaves by.

 

[Menzinger]

Neither really should be in the lineup come game 1 if the playoffs

Reaves is one of the oldest forwards in the league who can't keep up with the play. When he's at his best these days the team is barely getting replacement level play from the guy

Robertson hasn't clicked and may never will. He needs another team to see for sure

 

[Dekes For Days]

Did Robertson not get any opportunity with this organization?

Some but not much.

 

[meefer]

Until you see Robertson play with a competent C, which includes being defensively capable, I think it's hard to evaluate the player.

 

[Budz]

Until you see Robertson play with a competent C, which includes being defensively capable, I think it's hard to evaluate the player.

Strongly disagree.

I think it’s pretty easy.

 

[Evilhomer]

Neither really should be in the lineup come game 1 if the playoffs

Neither will be.

 

[meefer]

Strongly disagree.

I think it’s pretty easy.

Robertson's two main C options this year have been Domi and Holmberg. While Domi offers some of the distributing skills Robertson should be taking advantage of, his defensive weaknesses put two such players on the same line, leading to less than optimum results. I don't mind Domi working on Matthews wing, but as a C his play isn't sufficient to bring the line to life. Robertson's production has suffered because Tie can't provide a shooting option, and because of his weak D play, they spend far too much time in their own zone. I don't know if Robertson can stick with the team, but I think his skill set demands a more capable C (for that matter the team deserves a better 3C) than Domi. Holmberg...works hard, but hasn't the offensive skills to really help either of his wingers, but he is good at drawing penalties.

Neither will be.

Robertson may well be gone. I think it is going to be asking a lot to move Domi, his 3.75M x 3 more years contract ain't going to be an easy move. Perhaps you're suggesting that he'll be a healthy scratch? Again, difficult to envision, is Minten the replacement, an acquired 3C?

 

[Budz]

It doesn’t matter who his Centre is when he can’t stay on his skates and never wins puck battles.

Nice kid. Not heavy enough. End of story.

 

[Evilhomer]

Robertson may well be gone. I think it is going to be asking a lot to move Domi, his 3.75M x 3 more years contract ain't going to be an easy move. Perhaps you're suggesting that he'll be a healthy scratch? Again, difficult to envision, is Minten the replacement, an acquired 3C?

I was talking about Robertson and Reaves. Domi will absolutely be in the lineup in the playoffs.Treliving loves him. He isn't going anywhere.