Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III

[Dogs Enthusiast]

In normal times FrontsFan67 trading He at the deadline would have been the best move. Unfortunately, it was absolutely critical that we have a winning team and a decent playoff run to get the fans back and to send a signal to future players that we are not always in chaos and bottom dwellers.

I think it was the right move considering everything that has happened in the last 5 years.

 

[knowescape]

You barely ever say anything positive.

Researches how to block annoying members.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

That would be silly and lame. People are entitled to opinions.

 

[three dog night]

St Catharines Merdian Centre host the Minto cup this year if that a success it may help in the Memorial Cup bid.

 

[frontsfan67]

In normal times FrontsFan67 trading He at the deadline would have been the best move. Unfortunately, it was absolutely critical that we have a winning team and a decent playoff run to get the fans back and to send a signal to future players that we are not always in chaos and bottom dwellers.

I think it was the right move considering everything that has happened in the last 5 years.

I don’t mean trades this year I mean for next. He won’t be back as an OA obviously. Could also argue roobroeck won’t be back as a 19 year old. I think next year they definitely have to trade He at the deadline to load up for the following season- they’ll still be competitive next year and maybe win a round even if they traded He. Then the next year 2026/27 they’d be looking to get that OHL championship.

 

[Sam14]

You barely ever say anything positive.

DE back and read #117. Is it a negative IceDogs` post or an OHL factual post?

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I don’t mean trades this year I mean for next. He won’t be back as an OA obviously. Could also argue roobroeck won’t be back as a 19 year old. I think next year they definitely have to trade He at the deadline to load up for the following season- they’ll still be competitive next year and maybe win a round even if they traded He. Then the next year 2026/27 they’d be looking to get that OHL championship.

Why can't they win the OHL championship next year?

Yes there are some holes to fill. But... He, Roobroeck, Wasilyn, Czata, Assadorian and Arrowsmith will probably be the most dynamic top 6 in the league. Brauti is a very good #2 dman. Kevin He is already one of the best players in the league. Roobroeck is on pace for 50 goals at 17 years old. Wassilyn is leading all rookies, basically a point per game as a 16 year old.

As I've stated before. Bring in 2 strong overagers, use the import draft well and you're really rounding out that team nicely (luring a player of two from the states could also be possible).

At the deadline you can make a deal that brings in an elite player and a strong supporting player, with whoever Niagara takes in the first round this summer as the center piece going the other way.

You also have a crop of players like Crete, Galiyanov, Virgilio, Hotles etc who you can either bank on getting better next season, or use some of them to beef up the top end of the lineup even more. Depth roles won't be expensive to fill.

Banking on 2 years from now makes little sense, as you very likely won't have players as dynamic as He and Roobreock to build around.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

Sam, That was your back handed way of saying something negative about the Dogs, You were saying we have no chance of winning because we don’t have enough NHL drafted players.

That was your post this morning after we had a fantastic comeback to win on the road which gives us a 3 point lead in the Conference. You refuse to celebrate and congratulate the players because of your unhinged hatred of the owner.

Come on man, please start to enjoy the ride. You are wasting this moment.

p.s. I think you have far more knowledge of Junior hockey than I do. I value your posts. I am not trying to pick a fight or insult you. I just want you and the other naysayers to get back on board. Cheers and Go Dogs

 

[Sam14]

Sam, That was your back handed way of saying something negative about the Dogs, You were saying we have no chance of winning because we don’t have enough NHL drafted players.

That was your post this morning after we had a fantastic comeback to win on the road which gives us a 3 point lead in the Conference. You refuse to celebrate and congratulate the players because of your unhinged hatred of the owner.

Come on man, please start to enjoy the ride. You are wasting this moment.

p.s. I think you have far more knowledge of Junior hockey than I do. I value your posts. I am not trying to pick a fight or insult you. I just want you and the other naysayers to get back on board. Cheers and Go Dogs

Your interpertation of the post couldn`t be more inaccurate. It was an OHL factual post. That`s it.

What it can do is serve as guideline (education) for IceDogs fans (myself included), as to what the IceDogs need to do with this roster (perferably) next year while you have He and RR or the following year (if DD is determined to be a Mem-Cup host). It`s a point of discussion for IceDog fans serious about a championship team. Perhaps, this type of discussion is not for you and that`s fine, however, there are many on here that do like to discuss the topic of roster construct and OHL championships.

 

[dirty12]

I don’t mean trades this year I mean for next. He won’t be back as an OA obviously. Could also argue roobroeck won’t be back as a 19 year old. I think next year they definitely have to trade He at the deadline to load up for the following season- they’ll still be competitive next year and maybe win a round even if they traded He. Then the next year 2026/27 they’d be looking to get that OHL championship.

The IceDogs should be trying to contend next season. If Barrie returns (all) of their ‘06s and Brampton has all of their players that should return, there might be a tough decision to make at the next deadline. The central could be wicked next season.

 

[Countyview]

Your interpertation of the post couldn`t be more inaccurate. It was an OHL factual post. That`s it.

What it can do is serve as guideline (education) for IceDogs fans (myself included), as to what the IceDogs need to do with this roster (perferably) next year while you have He and RR or the following year (if DD is determined to be a Mem-Cup host). It`s a point of discussion for IceDog fans serious about a championship team. Perhaps, this type of discussion is not for you and that`s fine, however, there are many on here that do like to discuss the topic of roster construct and OHL championships.

Yawn. Real fans can do both, discuss the future and celebrate the surprising current team. You unfortunately seem only to focus on coulda’, woulda’ and shoulda’ in skepticism of the current management, passing along inneuendo and rumour and generally pontificating over everyone on this site. A real fan….i think not. The IceDogs really don’t need you much as you may disagree.

P.S. Remember Mickey Cheravaty?

 

[Sam14]

Yawn. Real fans can do both, discuss the future and celebrate the surprising current team. You unfortunately seem only to focus on coulda’, woulda’ and shoulda’ in skepticism of the current management, passing along inneuendo and rumour and generally pontificating over everyone on this site. A real fan….i think not. The IceDogs really don’t need you much as you may disagree.

P.S. Remember Mickey Cheravaty?

I thought you took your net home and didn’t want to play anymore

 

[Sam14]

The IceDogs should be trying to contend next season. If Barrie returns (all) of their ‘06s and Brampton has all of their players that should return, there might be a tough decision to make at the next deadline. The central could be wicked next season.

Definitely agree! The first step in building this roster for 25-26 will be the Import draft. IceDogs need to hit on two!

 

[frontsfan67]

The IceDogs should be trying to contend next season. If Barrie returns (all) of their ‘06s and Brampton has all of their players that should return, there might be a tough decision to make at the next deadline. The central could be wicked next season.

I’m saying keep everyone but He. Trade him at deadline similar to what Saginaw did the year they traded mintyukov and then host following year with potentially roobroeck back who may be the best player in the league then

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

The IceDogs should be trying to contend next season. If Barrie returns (all) of their ‘06s and Brampton has all of their players that should return, there might be a tough decision to make at the next deadline. The central could be wicked next season.

Re: Brampton - I've heard a rumour for starters that Mortone will go to Michigan next season if he doesn't crack the NHL.

 

[dirty12]

I’m saying keep everyone but He. Trade him at deadline similar to what Saginaw did the year they traded mintyukov and then host following year with potentially roobroeck back who may be the best player in the league then

if contention seems hopeless at the deadline, sure. But there is a good chance Niagara contends. Brampton prematurely attempting to contend this season really helps I think.

 

[frontsfan67]

if contention seems hopeless at the deadline, sure. But there is a good chance Niagara contends. Brampton prematurely attempting to contend this season really helps I think.

If they trade he next deadline or in the off season it’ll be right with what Kitchener did pretty much with Rehkhopf while still staying pretty competitive

I wonder if they end up getting some ncaa guys to commit to them

 

[knowescape]

That would be silly and lame. People are entitled to opinions.

Then why are you trying to stifle people who don't agree with you? If we don't think what you do, we are negative or wrong. Enjoy the ride dude, and if people present facts that differ from the sky colour in your world, how about either learning from them or tapping the block button.

Funny story, when I got my phone call begging me to come back as a paying fan this past week, they asked if there was anything they could do to change my mind. I said sure, I'd love to discuss it with the owner. That was met with laughter. Can't blame the poor lad who called, it wasn't his fault and I doubt everyone was as polite to him. It reminded me though when I called Elijah to cancel my season tickets after twelve years, he laughed too and said I'd be back.

 

[dogs777]

If they trade he next deadline or in the off season it’ll be right with what Kitchener did pretty much with Rehkhopf while still staying pretty competitive

I wonder if they end up getting some ncaa guys to commit to them

IF they trade He you can’t do it in th summer he’d get you a 16 year old that you could either keep or move in another trade (I thought Kitchener could get one for rehkhopf if they wanted to as well)

 

[frontsfan67]

IF they trade He you can’t do it in th summer he’d get you a 16 year old that you could either keep or move in another trade (I thought Kitchener could get one for rehkhopf if they wanted to as well)

I meant if they went the Rehkopf route or Mintyukov route with picks only and you use the picks as gold for the following season

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

Then why are you trying to stifle people who don't agree with you? If we don't think what you do, we are negative or wrong. Enjoy the ride dude, and if people present facts that differ from the sky colour in your world, how about either learning from them or tapping the block button.

Funny story, when I got my phone call begging me to come back as a paying fan this past week, they asked if there was anything they could do to change my mind. I said sure, I'd love to discuss it with the owner. That was met with laughter. Can't blame the poor lad who called, it wasn't his fault and I doubt everyone was as polite to him. It reminded me though when I called Elijah to cancel my season tickets after twelve years, he laughed too and said I'd be back.

Not trying to stifle any discussion, I am trying to get people to support the IceDogs.

How many times do I need to say that.

I tried to be nice yesterday to Sam by complimenting his knowledge. He replies and insults me by suggesting the discussion is over my head. You say I am trying to stifle discussion. Both assertions are wrong. Sigh.

Anyway all you naysayers, here is some more good news to ruin your day. Barrie has lost four in a row. Dogs are still up 3 points on Barrie. If we win today we will be leading the division by 5 points with 27 games left. No matter what happens today we will still be FIRST IN THE CONFERENCE!

Amazing! Real IceDog Fans Rejoice!

 

[Sam14]

I tried to be nice yesterday to Sam by complimenting his knowledge. He replies and insults me by suggesting the discussion is over my head.

Never wrote you are in over your head or insulted you merely mentioned that you don’t have any interest in the topic of roster construction. That’s it and that’s fine.

“Perhaps, this type of discussion is not for you and that`s fine, however, there are many on here that do like to discuss the topic of roster construct and OHL championships.”

 

[knowescape]

Anyway all you naysayers, here is some more good news to ruin your day.

So you're saying someone can't be a fan of the team unless they pay to see games?

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

“Perhaps, this type of discussion is not for you

This is insulting. Period.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

So you're saying someone can't be a fan of the team unless they pay to see games?

If you are purposely withholding funds that would support the team because you are mad at the owner. Then the team greatly improves. Having the best season we have had in what ... a decade. Loyal fans would buy a few tickets.

A few of you were actively hoping the team lands in last place again this year.

That is the opposite of a fan. IMO.