Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season, Part II

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donjohnson

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Not this season. Floris is the reason the IceDogs have such a great record. He often faces 50+ shots a night and makes many great saves to keep them in the game.
Thanks...Saginaw is similar and different... We don't play a ton of defense either but have a ton of puck possession in the o zone with our active dmen so we don't end up facing a lot of shots... Good luck the rest of the way!
 
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beastintheeast

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Kevin He won't be back for an OA year and Roobroeck is questionable at best.

I really don't see the league giving Niagara the Memorial Cup unless there is an ownership change soon. Remember, DD has done a lot of bush league type things, like not paying for the players meals when travelling to out of town games, taking long bus rides the day of the game instead of staying at a hotel, not providing meals in the media/scout room and we can't forget his 2 year suspension (which ends after this season) for the bullying scandal.

Before the league gives him the Memorial Cup, he needs to have a track record of running the team properly for multiple years. Awarding the tournament to Kitchener is a much safer pick.
My point is that if he stays on the road he presently is on and builds a team like he has now it will be difficult for them to ignore him and NIagara.

I am also not stating that you shouldn't go for it. What I am stating, and this is what is upsetting a lot of people, is that he has, through draft and trades, built a team that is quite formidable.

Even with all the sanctions.

Consider where this team is compared to Kingston. YOu can cry about the trades he made and how it seemed so bad but it was those trades and picks that he got that built this team.

He has a coach that is doing what is needed. He has players that have bought into the system.

I am sure that Boudreau and the GM are looking but then again 2 years is a long time and alsoremember the host site is decided before the NHL draft so Roobrek will still for intense and purpose still be an ice dog.

What I do not understand is why when you have a team that is doing really well there is this desire to screw it all up with trades or talk about the negative as[ects.


OR IS IT SIMPLY YOU GUYS DO NOT WANT A CUP WINNING TEAM OR HOSTING A m cup..

dO YOU THINK YOU ARE NOT WORTH

Consider that a lot of players get sent back from NHL camps. There is no guarantee that He will make the jump right away, and there is no guarantee that Roobek will not be 8 and done, especially if he is going back to a cup-contending team.

My proof is 2 words: Shane Wright remembers the kid who was a guaranteed first-overall draft pick guaranteed to make the NHL.

The first step is building a consistent winning exciting team. Niagara has done that if you do not blow it up.


Why not sit back and enjoy it. I think if you asked a lot of other fans on here they would gladly trade their team for Niagara.

Niagara is going to be really bad in the second half of the season… Owen Flores is already overworked. His luck is running out aswell as the teams luck. Consorti will screw things up as the trade deadline is coming up. The Aerosmith deal was terrible.
YOu guys traded for a faded rock band congratulations
 

beastintheeast

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Niagara is going to be really bad in the second half of the season… Owen Flores is already overworked. His luck is running out aswell as the teams luck. Consorti will screw things up as the trade deadline is coming up. The Aerosmith deal was terrible.
The ARROWMITH deal was a rookie that has 8 points in 11 games and is plus 5 for 3 picks that really mean little in the scheme of things.

How can you really tell me it was a bad deal.
 

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Niagara is going to be really bad in the second half of the season… Owen Flores is already overworked. His luck is running out aswell as the teams luck. Consorti will screw things up as the trade deadline is coming up. The Aerosmith deal was terrible.
Dead wrong
 

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Icedogs rallied to beat a stubborn Peterborough team 3 to 2 .Parris game winning goal with a little over four minutes left in the third period. Bryant scored one of the two Petes goal .Tge game was sold out 5,300 next game Friday night in London.
Coach Ben

Boudreau said. “With the season being half over we had to look at ourselves in the mirror. We’re a high-scoring team with two very good goalies but we don’t have too many defensive stats we’re proud of and we found a way to systematically change that.”
 

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Boudreau said. “With the season being half over we had to look at ourselves in the mirror. We’re a high-scoring team with two very good goalies but we don’t have too many defensive stats we’re proud of and we found a way to systematically change that.”

Comparatively young and small; a lack of defensive stats adds up.
 

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Why not sit back and enjoy it. I think if you asked a lot of other fans on here they would gladly trade their team for Niagara.
Fans may want to trade their team for the IceDogs but I don’t think they would trade for the IceDogs situation.

To get to where the IceDogs are today, the team has missed the playoffs for 4 straight seasons and have been in last place for 3 straight seasons. The last 2 seasons saw the team finish with their worst records in franchise history.

Now with all those losing seasons, you would figure the IceDogs would be overflowing with draft picks. However over the next 4 years, they have only 3 second round picks, 4 third round picks, 6 fourth round picks and 2 fifth round picks. In other words, they spent a lot of draft capital to get to where they are today and they still aren’t in contention for a championship.

If the last few years is what the IceDogs need to go through to have a competitive team, not a lot of fans would be okay with that.
 

beastintheeast

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Fans may want to trade their team for the IceDogs but I don’t think they would trade for the IceDogs situation.

To get to where the IceDogs are today, the team has missed the playoffs for 4 straight seasons and have been in last place for 3 straight seasons. The last 2 seasons saw the team finish with their worst records in franchise history.

Now with all those losing seasons, you would figure the IceDogs would be overflowing with draft picks. However over the next 4 years, they have only 3 second round picks, 4 third round picks, 6 fourth round picks and 2 fifth round picks. In other words, they spent a lot of draft capital to get to where they are today and they still aren’t in contention for a championship.

If the last few years is what the IceDogs need to go through to have a competitive team, not a lot of fans would be okay with that.
Please take a look at the team he was left with when he bought the team. He has taken a way tht most GM's owners would not. While being in last is not the place you want your team to be, if this team reaches the top and stays there because of the way he built it, then you have to say that it may have been worth it.

My point is that right now, you have one of the hottest teams in sports. You have a team that on paper at least should be top for a long period.

Instead of people complaining and saying the sky is falling, why not enjoy the sunshine and the team? Don't talk about, "Well, watch e is going to do this or they are going to do that."

Again you have a team with a lot of hot prospects and drafted plaeyrs. You have a team that is playing way above where I think any of you thought they would.

ENJOY THE RIDE! YOU DESERVE TO ENJOY IT NOT be looking at well I just got given this amazing car it is the best BUT allyou can see is well I am going to have to get the oil changed. the tires are going to wear out and I will probably in a couple of years hve to buy some parts or get it tuned. So really this lamborghini sucks
 

Sam14

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We are short one 2nd round pick. Next year.

That is the extent of our draft pick shortage. A single pick next year.
This has been explained in detail many times not just on our forum but other OHL team forums also.

Teams in contention (or planning to be in contention) accumulate (or accumulated) a surplus of picks for the year they would require them (e.g., Kingston, Brampton, Brantford, Barrie, Sudbury, etc…). The fact that the IceDogs don’t have a “surplus” of picks and missing a 2nd in 2025 is awful asset management, for a hockey ops that should probably go all in next season but think they are going all in for 26-27.

Yet here we are, four years later, and they barely have enough draft picks to simply conduct a regular draft never mind acquiring multiple NHL draft players for a championship run.
 
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This has been explained in detail many times not just on our forum but other OHL team forums also.

Teams in contention (or planning to be in contention) accumulate (or accumulated) a surplus of picks for the year they would require them (e.g., Kingston, Brampton, Brantford, Barrie, Sudbury, etc…). The fact that the IceDogs don’t have a “surplus” of picks and missing a 2nd in 2025 is awful asset management, for a hockey ops that should probably go all in next season but think they are going all in for 26-27.

Yet here we are, four years later, and they barely have enough draft picks to simply conduct a regular draft never mind acquiring multiple NHL draft players for a championship run.

Yes, I know in theory we should have been selling at the deadline the last 3 years to build up picks. Because we were so bad and such a damaged team we used the surplus picks we had to build this current excellent team. I realize that is not the traditional way. But that is what we did.

Time to let it go Sam14. I get the feeling you won't let it go because that is basically the only legit thing to complain about right now.

Go Dogs.
 

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Yes, I know in theory we should have been selling at the deadline the last 3 years to build up picks. Because we were so bad and such a damaged team we used the surplus picks we had to build this current excellent team. I realize that is not the traditional way. But that is what we did.

Time to let it go Sam14. I get the feeling you won't let it go because that is basically the only legit thing to complain about right now.

Go Dogs.
Dann, Zito, Dionicho, Lavoie, Sobolev were deadline seller trades. Using picks on three-year players in Arrowsmith, Dohertyy, Brauti, Virgilio was a good way to compliment the core ages of the team imo. There is a bit less certainty acquiring players yet to prove themselves, but it is certainly a whole lot more cost effective than trying to acquire four 19-20 year olds during an all-in type season.
 
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Sam14

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Yes, I know in theory we should have been selling at the deadline the last 3 years to build up picks. Because we were so bad and such a damaged team we used the surplus picks we had to build this current excellent team. I realize that is not the traditional way. But that is what we did.

Time to let it go Sam14. I get the feeling you won't let it go because that is basically the only legit thing to complain about right now.

Go Dogs.

At the last few deadlines, DD did sell (and also undersells in exchange for educational packages) but then he overpays horribly for players. That is why the IceDogs don't have a surplus of draft picks. Honestly, it's very simple math that any fan should understand. You just don't want to understand it and honestly that is fine too!

As far as things to complain about, I haven't and won't mention the series of the off-ice embarrassments over the last month and as recent as the Michigan trip. The behind-the-scene happening are a complete sh$tshow! There are some very unhappy people.
 
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