Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season, Part II

[Dogs Enthusiast]

Flores for 2,5 picks and Levin, Federkow for 3,5 picks were good for Niagara trades too.

That was a good one too. However sticking London with the under-performing Copeland was highly entertaining.

Seems to me, that lately our London trades work out pretty good for the IceDogs.

 

[Sam14]

That was a good one too. However sticking London with the under-performing Copeland was highly entertaining.

Seems to me, that lately our London trades work out pretty good for the IceDogs.

FYI. We didn’t stick London with Copeland they took him on in the deal to pay for his education package.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

FYI. We didn’t stick London with Copeland they took him on in the deal to pay for his education package.

I maintain we stuck London with Copeland. Who is now playing in a league that may go defunct soon.

 

[dirty12]

FYI. We didn’t stick London with Copeland they took him on in the deal to pay for his education package.

That just makes it more with it. I thought sticking Windsor with the Castle gold package when trading Dionicio for Ride, O’Flaherty, 2, 6 was brilliant.
I did not like the Ride to NB trade so much (for Niagara that is).

 

[Sam14]

I maintain we stuck London with Copeland. Who is now playing in a league that may go defunct soon.

No. Copeland was the reason Niagara overpaid on the trade. Not sure why you feel the need to change the narrative on trade. Those are the facts not an opinion. DD trades draft picks to save himself money.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

"change the narrative"?

"Those are the facts not an opinion. "

I think you mean change your negative narrative and counter to your opinion.

It was a really good trade for the IceDogs.

 

[dirty12]

"change the narrative"?

"Those are the facts not an opinion. "

I think you mean change your negative narrative and counter to your opinion.

It was a really good trade for the IceDogs.

It was a really good trade for Niagara. It could have been great if Humphrey was able to keep his emotions in check.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

All the fans in Niagara knew Copeland was under performing and just coasted around on the ice. If we didn't get to trade him we probably would have released him eventually. Just like London did.

 

[Sam14]

"change the narrative"?

"Those are the facts not an opinion. "

I think you mean change your negative narrative and counter to your opinion.

It was a really good trade for the IceDogs.

Trading away high draft picks in exchange for London taking on the cost of Copeland’s education package is a good deal?

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

Trading away high draft picks in exchange for London taking on the cost of Copeland’s education package is a good deal?

Its like you are purposely ignoring that we got Paris in the trade too.

 

[Sam14]

Its like you are purposely ignoring that we got Paris in the trade too.

You have got to be kidding me!!!

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

You have got to be kidding me!!!

Why would I kid. I like Paris and look forward to his return. He was playing very well at the beginning if the season when we had a 5 game win streak.

I get it and everybody else does too. You loathe to admit anything good about the IceDogs as long at DD is the owner.

 

[Sam14]

It was a really good trade for Niagara. It could have been great if Humphrey was able to keep his emotions in check.

Wow! You know nothing about that trade.

 

[dirty12]

Trading away high draft picks in exchange for London taking on the cost of Copeland’s education package is a good deal?

Because they got Paris, Humphrey, and unloaded the education package for 2, 3 picks; yeah, very good exchange

 

[knowescape]

All the fans in Niagara knew Copeland was under performing and just coasted around on the ice. If we didn't get to trade him we probably would have released him eventually. Just like London did.

Underperforming? If he was performing in any capacity, I suspect it was Ice Capades. Definitely not hockey. The poor guy looked lost most shifts.

 

[knowescape]

Because they got Paris, Humphrey, and unloaded the education package for 2, 3 picks; yeah, very good exchange

While I wasn't sad to see Copeland go, the standard of "costs money = bad" can't be the driving force for your franchise. Let's not forget a whole pile of picks disappeared from Niagara then as well. Picks are currency, you use them to buy new players and enhance your team. When your team plays better, ticket sales go up, which means all the ancillary revenue goes up too. DDD thinks investing in the team is bad, so he avoids it. He gets rid of picks as if they are a non-commodity and the team cannot be enhanced. And before you point to this year's stats, think about next year.

 

[Sam14]

Because they got Paris, Humphrey, and unloaded the education package for 2, 3 picks; yeah, very good exchange

Do yourself a favour and refrain from discussing matters you know nothing about and care nothing about.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

Do yourself a favour and refrain from discussing matters you know nothing about and care nothing about.

Apparently they know a good trade when they see one. ;-)

 

[ScoutLife4]

Because they got Paris, Humphrey, and unloaded the education package for 2, 3 picks; yeah, very good exchange

Why would you care on saving education money as a fan?
It has no benefit to the team skill level and is just another indication of a cheapskate owner.

This guy decided to buy a JR hockey team knowing education costs were a massive factor.

 

[dirty12]

While I wasn't sad to see Copeland go, the standard of "costs money = bad" can't be the driving force for your franchise. Let's not forget a whole pile of picks disappeared from Niagara then as well. Picks are currency, you use them to buy new players and enhance your team. When your team plays better, ticket sales go up, which means all the ancillary revenue goes up too. DDD thinks investing in the team is bad, so he avoids it. He gets rid of picks as if they are a non-commodity and the team cannot be enhanced. And before you point to this year's stats, think about next year.

Next season and the season after appear more promising than this season. So yeah, the concept of picks as a commodity seems understood.

 

[dirty12]

Why would you care on saving education money as a fan?
It has no benefit to the team skill level and is just another indication of a cheapskate owner.

This guy decided to buy a JR hockey team knowing education costs were a massive factor.

I do not care or said I care about anyone saving education $; being rid of education $ money in trade is certainly not a negative though.

 

[ScoutLife4]

I do not care or said I care about anyone saving education $; being rid of education $ money in trade is certainly not a negative though.

I think the education cost is meaningless to the fans of the team and definitely a negative overall.
He unloads education costs associated to the team by giving away picks and unloading talent in return.
It's a huge negative to the ice dogs team and Ice Dog fans have a right to be frustrated by it.

 

[Dog Fan]

How long can DDD hang in as owner? I have a good friend that owns a pretty big general insurance firm and he doesn't think DDD has the funds to keep this thing going. All these trades to save costs are just postponing the inevitable sale. #SELLTHETEAM

 

[ScoutLife4]

How long can DDD hang in as owner? I have a good friend that owns a pretty big general insurance firm and he doesn't think DDD has the funds to keep this thing going. All these trades to save costs are just postponing the inevitable sale. #SELLTHETEAM

I'm personally hoping Bruce Boudreau puts together a group to buy this thing.
I think that would be an ideal situation knowing his involvement as an advisor.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

Now that there is some success on the ice it can result in two things.

- DD stays on as owner and keeps trying.

- DD thinks the value of the team has increased and sells.

I bet it is the first one.