Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season, Part II

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FYI - The Ice Dogs have accumulated 11(+) extra picks over the next 4 draft seasons, here is an up-to-date chart;
Would you agree the usual denomination for high ranked players is a number of 2nd picks? No one makes a trade for a boat load of 4ths. That's like paying with pennies.
 
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FYI - The Ice Dogs have accumulated 11(+) extra picks over the next 4 draft seasons, here is an up-to-date chart;


Anything beyond a 4th (maybe 5th) round pick is an insignificant surplus. They don’t acquire elite players.

Unfortunately, that is what DD meant, when he told fans in the concourse, “we have lots of picks”. Not to be overly mean to DD (who does not look well) but he honestly doesn’t get it.

16 spots - 17 picks. One unconfirmed conditional 3rd. Missing 2nd 2025. Not good, nor a surplus for IceDog fans to brag about.

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Chromiak is also an unfair comparison because Kingston had 3 OA so they had to trade him

The way I see it; Chromiak, Eliasson, Loshko, Molnar, Uronen are all one year imports that were not going to play for their respective teams and were not going to return value equal to their talent.
 

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Would you agree the usual denomination for high ranked players is a number of 2nd picks? No one makes a trade for a boat load of 4ths. That's like paying with pennies.
I would firmly assert that the higher the selections, the greater the likelihood of success. Fortunately, the teaching at the minor level has greatly improved in recent times. Many late developers will fall down the draft lane somewhat, with a good team of scouts, teams find them and develop them very well. If you have the extra 3rd, 4th or even 5th picks they are still very valuable, but in general, yes, 2nd picks are easier to trade in order to improve and get the player that is needed
 

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Anything beyond a 4th (maybe 5th) round pick is an insignificant surplus. They don’t acquire elite players.

Unfortunately, that is what DD meant, when he told fans in the concourse, “we have lots of picks”. Not to be overly mean to DD (who does not look well) but he honestly doesn’t get it.

16 spots - 17 picks. One unconfirmed conditional 3rd. Missing 2nd 2025. Not good, nor a surplus for IceDog fans to brag about.

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NB ‘25-3rd & (KIT 5th already used in trade) is for Zito playing as an OA for Windsor. Niagara, NB, and Windsor all get their *pick(s) in that circle trade. PBO ‘28-3rd is unconfirmed but can be counted I think.

The person responsible for the most recent Niagara off-season does get it imo.
 
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PBO ‘28-3rd is unconfirmed but can be counted I think.
No one has confirmed it. Makes me believe it is not linked to Reid otherwise they would have been the first to get that out to all media outlets. Recent words spoken by DD, “we don’t want any negative press, only positive”
 

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with a good team of scouts, teams find them and develop them very well.
IceDogs employ a league low 5 scouts. The league average is just under 10 scouts per team and there are teams that have scouting staffs counting in the mid teens. It’s a pathetic situation here and he was been told numerous times by disgruntled STHs to do something about it.
 
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IceDogs employ a league low 5 scouts. The league average is just under 10 scouts per team and there are teams that have scouting staffs counting in the mid teens. It’s a pathetic situation here and he was been told numerous times by disgruntled STHs to do something about it.
Understand the situation here, the pressure is definitely on, not much room for the skeleton scouting team to make errors here, I am they must be in contact with the league central scouting as well, but that don't beat the eyes on the players
 

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