Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season, Part I

[bigsportsfan]

Fans staying away also strengthens the argument for the team moving where as I can’t imagine a team that performs well attendance wise ever having a strong argument for relocation.

The team can’t move until the first term of their lease ends in 2034. After that the team has the option to extend the lease for up to another 20 years in 5 year increments.

 

[ScoutLife4]

Can’t hit what you can’t catch

I’ve seen him get crushed a few times skating with his head down through centre this season.
He’s been caught lots.

 

[frontsfan67]

Roobroeck with the hat trick including the game winner with forty eight seconds to play gave the Icedogs a 4 to 3 win before 3,548 fans at the Meridian Centre. He scored the other goal for the Icedogs. Next game tomorrow night at Brantford

Who scored the other goal for the ice dogs?

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

That is the second time we replied with a victory after a bad loss. That is what good teams do.

Past the quarter mark of the season and we are still first place in the Conference.

Go Dogs.

 

[stealth1]

Was at the game last night. My first game of the season. I thought they played very well. It's much better than last season. My only question is, has the reffing been this bad all season? Last night it felt like Sarnia was getting all the calls.

The big one was the hit to the head in the first period and then in the third there was a high stocking call they missed only to call He a minute later for the same thing. They were bad last night.

 

[dogs777]

Was at the game last night. My first game of the season. I thought they played very well. It's much better than last season. My only question is, has the reffing been this bad all season? Last night it felt like Sarnia was getting all the calls.

The big one was the hit to the head in the first period and then in the third there was a high stocking call they missed only to call He a minute later for the same thing. They were bad last night.

Yes the refs have been pretty bad all season

 

[three dog night]

Who scored the other goal for the ice dogs?

Keven He

Was at the game last night. My first game of the season. I thought they played very well. It's much better than last season. My only question is, has the reffing been this bad all season? Last night it felt like Sarnia was getting all the calls.

The big one was the hit to the head in the first period and then in the third there was a high stocking call they missed only to call He a minute later for the same thing. They were bad last night.

Yes worse this season

I’ve seen him get crushed a few times skating with his head down through centre this season.
He’s been caught lots.

Never seen him get crushed yet

 

[frontsfan67]

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[knowescape]

Fans staying away also strengthens the argument for the team moving where as I can’t imagine a team that performs well attendance wise ever having a strong argument for relocation.

DDD isn't going to fund the team with low attendance for the next ten years, which is what is left on the original lease. Any other owner would realize if you wipe the slate clean and commit to a quality product, the fans in Niagara will return.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

Big win. Broke the curse against the bulldogs.

He with three goals.

13 and 5 now. Best start for the franchise.

 

[Chitownhockey999]

If it was me I’m starting someone else tomorrow who that someone is

some posts just don't age well. please keep posting. i need a good laugh now and then.

 

[three dog night]

He with the hat trick has the Icedogs beat slumping Brantford 6 to 4 ending the curse. 3,201 fans in Brantford today next game Friday night in Guelph.

 

[I Loveallsports]

This team looks to have turned the corner.

 

[dogs777]

some posts just don't age well. please keep posting. i need a good laugh now and then.

No they don’t credit where it’s due he’s had 2 really good games but the previous couple (when I made the comment) weren’t good and it looked like he could use a break

 

[Countyview]

DDD isn't going to fund the team with low attendance for the next ten years, which is what is left on the original lease. Any other owner would realize if you wipe the slate clean and commit to a quality product, the fans in Niagara will return.

Take a closer look. Looks like a pretty quality product right now. How long can you ignore what’s under your nose by complaining about the past forecasting future failures. Maybe all you old STH’s should acknowledge what’s in front of you.

 

[IceDogs452]

Frolov out here getting healthy scratched by Flint. Might be time to admit the IceDogs won the f**k outta that trade to date.

 

[Dogs Enthusiast]

Frolov out here getting healthy scratched by Flint. Might be time to admit the IceDogs won the f**k outta that trade to date.

That is amusing.

Just took another look at that confusing trade to refresh my memory.

IceDogs wheel and deal | BP Sports Niagara

Defenceman Jack Brauti is heading from Barrie to Niagara as part of a multi-player, three-team trade. Photo: OHL IMAGES. The Niagara IceDogs shook up their roster on the verge of training camp with a pair of trades Monday involving three teams, six players and up to 11 draft picks. The IceDogs...

www.bpsportsniagara.com

 

[knowescape]

Take a closer look. Looks like a pretty quality product right now. How long can you ignore what’s under your nose by complaining about the past forecasting future failures. Maybe all you old STH’s should acknowledge what’s in front of you.

I'm watching the games, just not giving DDD my money. I'm not ignoring the team, just not rushing in to say the problem is solved when there are so many unresolved issues. I gave DDD a few seasons, he kept stepping on his crank. Let's see what happens during the trade deadline before we plan a parade. Us old STH's were patient in the building and can be equally as reserved at home.

You've been on this site since October, I won't hold it against you for thinking you know it all. I was new once too.

 

[Sam14]

As requested of me by several fans on and off this site, the complete list of DD's trades

2022-2023 SEASON
TOTAL TRADES: 22
June 30, 2022…a nice try, he just wasn’t very good here and didn’t want to be here.
To Niagara: Pasquale Zito (03)
To Windsor: 2nd, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 6th

June 30, 2022…his play, so disappointing...over-rated and over-paid for this OA.
To Niagara: Nathan Ribau (OA)
To Windsor: 3rd, 4th

June 30, 2022…the best of all three OA D. Oshawa felt Niagara overpaid, but he was worth the 3rd
To Niagara: David Jesus (OA)
To Oshawa: 3rd, 5th

June 30, 2022…the trade, the return, just horrible!
To Niagara: Matthew Papais (OA)
To Guelph: 3rd, 4th
(6 games later Oct.11, 2023) IceDogs trade with Owen Sound. Papais for their 5th in 2025.

June 30, 2022 …never did show up and the pick was not conditional.
To Niagara: Russian import F Vsevolod Gaidamak (03)
To OTTAWA: 4th

August 2, 2022…fair price coming off a 29 goal season; expected 40 was on pace for 12 goals.
To Niagara: Nolan Dann (03)
To Sarnia: 2nd, 2nd, 5th

August 4, 2022…Enright IceDogs 1st rd 2020 pick.
To Niagara: 3rd, 3rd, 12, 15
To Missy: Isaac Enright (03) Ryan Struthers (04)

August 31, 2022…the max return was great! The Problem: In 14 months DD gave all the picks (plus more) back to London.
To Niagara: 3x2rds, 3x3rds and a 5th
To London: Sam Dickinson (07)

September 8, 2022…didn’t look like a good deal at the time, but it has proven to be one of DDs better trades.
To Niagara: Owen Flores (04)
To London: 2nd, 5th

Sept 12, 2022…as bad as a trade can possibly be. WTF!
To Niagara: 8th
To Oshawa: Dylan Roobroeck (04)

Sept 12, 2022
To Niagara: William Stewart (05)
To Flint: 12th

Sept 21, 2022
To Niagara: Gabe Runco (05)
To Petes: 15th

Sept 27, 2022 …first goalie drafted the 2021 OHL Priority Draft. WTF!
To Niagara: 4th, 12th
To Windsor: Joey Costanzo (05)

Sept 29, 2022…fair trade just a horrible flip of draft capital the following year.
To Niagara: Andrew LeBlanc (04) and Jacob LeBlanc (04)
To Kitchener: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 5th
(June 6, 2022) Jacob Leblanc and Andrew Leblanc (04) to Sarnia for 5th, 6th, 14th, 15th

Oct 11, 2022…an OA overpay. Keane was just not very good.
To Niagara: Gerard Keane (OA), 12th
To London: Alec Leonard (04), 2nd, 3rd
…that trade forced this trade: Papais for a 5th.

Dec. 12, 2022…first really good trade (and a win) by DDD.
To Niagara: Michael Podolioukh (04), 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 5th,
To North Bay: Pasquale Zito

Dec. 12, 2022…heavy price tag.
To Niagara: Zakary Lavoie (04)
To Mississauga: 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th,

Dec. 15, 2022…a 3rd for a soft perimeter player was fair.
To Niagara: 3rd, 8th
To SSM: Brenden Sirizzotti (03)

Jan. 1, 2023…return was decent for a kid who desperately wanted out of the mess.
To Niagara: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd
To Erie: Pano Fimis (04)

Jan. 6, 2023 …ok, but still undersold on Dionicio because of Castle’s educational package
To Niagara: Chris O’Flaherty (05), Bronson Ride (05), 2nd, 6th
To Windsor: Aidan Castle (04) and Rodwin Dionicio (04)

Jan 10, 2023…a little pricey.
To Niagara: Alex Assadourian (05)
To Sudbury: 2nd, 3rd,

Jan 10, 2023…crazy good return for an underachieving player!
To Niagara: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th,
To Flint: Nolan Dann


2023-2024 SEASON
TOTAL TRADES: 14
June 6, 2023…what they paid for them, in combination with, what they got back was an embarrassment.
To Niagara: 5th, 6th, 14th, 15th
To Sarnia: Jacob Leblanc and Andrew Leblanc (04)

June 6, 2023…for Kitchener’s backup goalie (23gp), a 2nd and 5th was a steep price.
To Niagara: Marcus Vandenberg (04)
To Kitchener: Gabe Runco, 2nd, 5th

August 2, 2023…a good trade despite being an Import/OA. One of the best pure hitters Niagara has ever had.
To Niagara: Daniil Sobolev (Import/OA)
To Windsor: 4th, 8th, 15th

August 24, 2023…only that 3rd received make that trade seem ok now
To Niagara: Gavin Bryant (04), 3rd
To Owen Sound: Declan Waddick (05)

September 5, 2023…the price for London’s OA 8th D/ 4th line F was high, but he turned out to be a pleasant surprise.
To Niagara: Connor Federkow (OA), Mike Levin (05)
To London: 3rd, 5th

September 11, 2023…overpay, educational package implication trade
To Niagara: Ryan Humphrey (OA), Mathieu Paris (05)
To London: Juan Copeland, 2nd, 3rdh
(Sept 30th, 2023)…11 games later, Humphrey left Niagara to play in the USHL

November 9, 2023…overpay, educational package implication trade
To Niagara: Brody Crane (04)
To London: Chris O’Flaherty, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
(January 4, 2024)…Crane traded to Owen Sound for a 6th.

December 8, 2023…gave up a 2nd and 5th to get him a few months ago got back two 3rds
To Niagara: 3rd, 3rd
To Sudbury: Marcus Vandenberg (04)

January 4, 2024…Good Trade.
To Niagara: Charlie Robertson (05), 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 9th
To North Bay: Bronson Ride (05)

January 4, 2024…Horrible Trade, when you factor in what Niagara paid to acquire him!
To Niagara: 6th
To Owen Sound: Brody Crane

January 9, 2024…Two younger players (who are still struggling) for an expiring OA/Import is still a Good Trade.
To Niagara: Callum Cheynowski (06), Mason Wray (06)
To Brantford: Daniil Sobolev (Import/OA)

January 9, 2024
To Niagara: Anson Thornton (OA)
To Barrie: 15th

January 9, 2024
To Niagara: 10th
To Erie: Charlie Burns (06)

January 10, 2024…Bad trade, under-sold due Education Package implications
To Niagara: 3rd, 3rd, 8th
To Brantford: Zak Lavoie

2024-2025 SEASON
TOTAL TRADES: 08
June 6, 2024 …overpaid.
To Niagara: Matthew Virgilio (06)
To SSM: 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th

August 19, 2024…Part I Overpaid
To Niagara: Tristan Bertucci(05), 8th, 14th ,*3rd (currently seeking clarification on condition)
To Flint: Artem Frolov, Urban Podrekar, Hayden Reid, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd,

August 19, 2024…Part II Under-sold
To Niagara: Jack Brauti (06), Blair Scott (05), 2025 2nd, 3rd, 4th
To Barrie: Tristan Bertucci (05)
…in the words of an OHL GM, “Barrie recieved Bertucci and got Niagara to play for it.”

August 23, 2024… While his physicality has his supporters; his foot speed has his detractors, regardless of what fans like or dislike about his play, it still an OA overpay.
To Niagara: Noah Van Vliet (OA)
To Sudbury: 3rd, 4th, 5th, 15th
FYI. St Catharines native with a similar physicality to his game but better foot speed 6.03 OA Derek Smyth was available from the Ottawa 67s at no cost at all.

September 16, 2024
To Niagara: 9th
To Kitchener: Andrew Vermeulen (06) 2022 4th round selection

September 16, 2024
To Niagara: Sean Doherty (06) 2022 3rd round selection
To Owen Sound: 5th

September 25, 2024…a horrible return for a 6.06 2nd round NHL Drafted 2006 D.
To Niagara: 3rd
To Barrie: Import Gabriel Eliasson (06)

October 22, 2024…return is fine, the team’s reputation not so much.
To Niagara: 3rd, 9th
To Petes: Gavin Bryant (OA)

 

[Countyview]

I'm watching the games, just not giving DDD my money. I'm not ignoring the team, just not rushing in to say the problem is solved when there are so many unresolved issues. I gave DDD a few seasons, he kept stepping on his crank. Let's see what happens during the trade deadline before we plan a parade. Us old STH's were patient in the building and can be equally as reserved at home.

You've been on this site since October, I won't hold it against you for thinking you know it all. I was new once too.

New to you maybe but been in this league since the 70’s and I stand by my comments.

 

[dirty12]

That is amusing.

Just took another look at that confusing trade to refresh my memory.

IceDogs wheel and deal | BP Sports Niagara

Defenceman Jack Brauti is heading from Barrie to Niagara as part of a multi-player, three-team trade. Photo: OHL IMAGES. The Niagara IceDogs shook up their roster on the verge of training camp with a pair of trades Monday involving three teams, six players and up to 11 draft picks. The IceDogs...

www.bpsportsniagara.com

One guy is leading his team’s D in TOI and driving the offence from the back end, the other is a rotational scratch for a <0.500 team. Scott is more reliable defensively than both Podrkar and Frolov.

 

[Wolfman Jack]

Niagara basically gave Barrie two huge pieces in Bertucci and Eliasson for Brauti, Scott a 2nd 3rd 3rd and 4th.

Think about a team at a deadline attempting to make that kind of splash. Have to give it to the Barrie GM.

Then they add Wakely, Gardiner and Hemming to the returning group and instant top team in the East and it wasn't even November. That's how you build a contender.

Niagara may regret doing such a favour to Barrie when playoffs come around. Will come back to bite them in the backside.

WJ

 

[dogs777]

Niagara basically gave Barrie two huge pieces in Bertucci and Eliasson for Brauti, Scott a 2nd 3rd 3rd and 4th.

Think about a team at a deadline attempting to make that kind of splash. Have to give it to the Barrie GM.

Then they add Wakely, Gardiner and Hemming to the returning group and instant top team in the East and it wasn't even November. That's how you build a contender.

Niagara may regret doing such a favour to Barrie when playoffs come around. Will come back to bite them in the backside.

WJ

Why would they regret it? I mean if they were trying to go for it this year they’d definitely regret it but they aren’t so I doubt they truly regret it

 

[Wolfman Jack]

Why would they regret it? I mean if they were trying to go for it this year they’d definitely regret it but they aren’t so I doubt they truly regret it

So you are telling me Niagara was giving up before the year started. Dealing Eliasson was premature. Maybe not making the Van Vliet deal and keeping Bryant would have been a smart move. Just saying they have one of the top OA imports in the league. I guess he is getting dealt too from what you are saying.

WJ

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I'm curious if the NCAA announcement changes Niagara's approach into making a run at it this season?

Roobroeck and He could both go that route if they so chose next season. Things just got a whole lot riskier.

I think long term, the OHL will need to change into a 15-19 year old league