Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season, Part I

beastintheeast · 2024-10-01T12:55:14-0400

OHL4Life said:
its 2 games.

Yeah but not a bad start for a team that some people here had written off
My point still is this is not a team that is going to be an easy 2 points like it was.

OHL4Life · 2024-10-01T12:56:04-0400

beastintheeast said:
Yeah but not a bad start for a team that some people here had written off

ok, but its two games.

Dogs Enthusiast · 2024-10-01T13:11:57-0400

I agree, we will not be bottom feeders this year. Mostly because the high draft picks we got for a few years are starting to produce points. Kevin He being the best example.

dogs777 · 2024-10-01T13:38:35-0400

beastintheeast said:
Seems to me that I remember a raccoon that took heat on this page because he said that Niagara was not going to be a doormat like in past years. @Sam14

I did not say they would be the best team but they have shown that with Flores playing well they are not gong to be easy to beat.

Let’s see what Flores and the rest look like against 2 of the league’s better teams this week

Dogs Enthusiast · 2024-10-01T15:25:54-0400

IceDogs ripped off and insulted!!!!
Only ranked #15 in the OHL Power Rankings.

OHL Power Rankings: Sept. 30, 2024 - Ontario Hockey League

The Brampton Steelheads are the #1 team in the OHL following Opening Week action.

chl.ca

Sam14 · 2024-10-01T15:58:00-0400

For IceDog fan interested in these numbers. The most recent Season Opener attendance numbers (rounded off) were:

4800
5300
4800
3800
4400

Home Opener
Sunday, October 6th vs NFL Week 5

As of Oct 1st 2400 tickets sold…embarrassing low for this franchise.

Last year, they propped up their attendance numbers by selling heavily discounted tickets and dispensing freebies.

Dogs Enthusiast · 2024-10-01T16:21:40-0400

They emailed a season opener promotion out yesterday. You pay $25 and get a mystery seat in the gold, platinum or club. So basically a $6 discount and you don't get to choose your seats.

Not much of a discount.

Sam14 · 2024-10-01T16:37:22-0400

Dogs Enthusiast said:
They emailed a season opener promotion out yesterday. You pay $25 and get a mystery seat in the gold, platinum or club. So basically a $6 discount and you don't get to choose your seats.

Not much of a discount.

Hey, I got that too! You may be right the $10.00 tickets were mostly available the 2nd half of the season. They’re probably best advised not to do that this early but they’ll have to do something creative to get to a respectable number

the dog · 2024-10-01T19:34:54-0400

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knowescape · 2024-10-02T06:30:10-0400

Sam14 said:
For IceDog fan interested in these numbers. The most recent Season Opener attendance numbers (rounded off) were:

4800
5300
4800
3800
4400

Home Opener
Sunday, October 6th vs NFL Week 5

As of Oct 1st 2400 tickets sold…embarrassing low for this franchise.

Last year, they propped up their attendance numbers by selling heavily discounted tickets and dispensing freebies.

Good thing DDD is running the team like a business.

Sam14 · 2024-10-02T07:44:07-0400

knowescape said:
Good thing DDD is running the team like a business.

Darren is an odd duck. Even his biggest detractors once mentioned, “Doesn’t know much about hockey, but he is a smart business man.” The first thing he told ID fans was “Niagara should never go through a rebuild”; fans gulped, “Oh oh, I think we have a problem!” Or as some hopefully suggested, “Perhaps, he plans to invest financially and blue print the London Knights hockey model?” Three years later, the answer is NO and DD is still the GM; he still hasn't learned that every OHL team (except London) has to go through a proper rebuild.

His move to IceDog Sunday games, during the NFL season, is curious. IceDogs play Sunday games and they do draw well, but they’ve always been after the NFL season ends. I honestly question if he is aware of that?

The Home Opener this Sunday, instead of Saturday night (Meridian Centre empty) was a business decision? FACT: IceDogs play only 5 Saturday night home games the entire 24-25 season.

Sam14 · 2024-10-02T07:50:07-0400

dogs777 said:
Let’s see what Flores and the rest look like against 2 of the league’s better teams this week

Keep in mind the Oshawa team the IceDogs play on Friday will not be the one challenging for the Eastern Conference: only two of their core six players will actually be in the lineup.

So this won’t be as much of a test, as it will be a huge opportunity to steal 2 points from a team, they’ll likely won’t be able to, later in the season.

As for Sunday’s home opener, the Steelheads will be arriving in Niagara with all its fire power in the lineup!

Dogs Enthusiast · 2024-10-02T08:36:28-0400

Sam14 said:
His move to IceDog Sunday games, during the NFL season, is curious. IceDogs play Sunday games and they do draw well, but they’ve always been after the NFL season ends. I honestly question if he is aware of that?

My understanding. The Burkes were big Bills fans and had season tickets. So it was partly so that the Burkes could attend Bills games and partly because they didn't want to compete with NFL on a Sunday.

Honestly, I love Sunday afternoon games. I also love the Bills. I am fine with more Sunday games and possibly conflicting with the NFL. If I were DD, I would do the same thing.

Sam14 · 2024-10-02T08:43:47-0400

Dogs Enthusiast said:
My understanding. The Burkes were big Bills fans and had season tickets. So it was partly so that the Burkes could attend Bills games and partly because they didn't want to compete with NFL on a Sunday.

Honestly, I love Sunday afternoon games. I also love the Bills. I am fine with more Sunday games and possibly conflicting with the NFL. If I were DD, I would do the same thing.

It will be interesting to see how those games are received. You are an example of one unaffected, ticket sales would tell you many STH were upset by the decision and many have moved their Sunday NFL games to other dates.
However, to be fair, the NFL Sunday attendance numbers this year will ultimately answer the question, good or bad business decision.

The home opener being its first test.

knowescape · 2024-10-02T08:46:05-0400

Dogs Enthusiast said:
My understanding. The Burkes were big Bills fans and had season tickets. So it was partly so that the Burkes could attend Bills games and partly because they didn't want to compete with NFL on a Sunday.

Honestly, I love Sunday afternoon games. I also love the Bills. I am fine with more Sunday games and possibly conflicting with the NFL. If I were DD, I would do the same thing.

Sunday matinees were my least favourite. I most enjoyed Friday or Saturday night games as we would make an evening out of it. The businesses downtown will take a hit this year, unlike the "seats sold" method, they rely on actual people showing up.

Dogs Enthusiast · 2024-10-02T08:54:04-0400

Sam14 said:
It will be interesting to see how those games are received.

We had a few last year when the NFL was happening. Here is one that had decent attendance.

Ontario Hockey League

The OHL consists of 20 member teams, including 17 in the province of Ontario as well as three in the United States, with two in the state of Michigan and one in the state of Pennsylvania.

chl.ca

Sunday matinees were my least favourite

This was always a discussion on the old ID board. I was in the minority liking Sunday games.

I can sleep in on Sunday morn, then laze around the house or do some chores. Go to the game. Come home with a little daylight left and make have a Sunday roast for dinner. Hopefully celebrating a victory. Its a perfect Sunday for me!!!

Don't know what is happening with that hyperlink. It was 4384 in attendance on Dec 3 against Peterborough.

knowescape · 2024-10-02T08:57:45-0400

Dogs Enthusiast said:
This was always a discussion on the old ID board. I was in the minority liking Sunday games

This year, that should translate to tens of screaming kids in attendance.

Sam14 · 2024-10-02T09:02:42-0400

knowescape said:
Sunday matinees were my least favourite. I most enjoyed Friday or Saturday night games as we would make an evening out of it. The businesses downtown will take a hit this year, unlike the "seats sold" method, they rely on actual people showing up.

One of the real local draws of IceDogs hockey was the Saturday (and Friday) "night out" factor it provided fans and businesses around the MC. Sunday afternoon eliminates that!

knowescape · 2024-10-02T09:07:44-0400

Sam14 said:
One of the real local draws of IceDogs hockey was the Saturday (and Friday) "night out" factor it provided fans and businesses around the MC. Sunday afternoon eliminates that!

So in addition to killing his own business, he is adversely affecting many others.

Dogs Enthusiast · 2024-10-02T09:22:03-0400

The restaurants that are open on Sunday afternoon do a pretty good business on game day. We have done that before a Sunday game. So its not all doom and gloom.

usahockey22flyers · 2024-10-02T09:24:19-0400

2-0 baby! Anyone have the lines from the weekend?

Dogs Enthusiast · 2024-10-02T09:26:59-0400

usahockey22flyers said:
2-0 baby! Anyone have the lines from the weekend?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840438060468642116

three dog night · 2024-10-02T09:52:01-0400

Sam14 said:
Darren is an odd duck. Even his biggest detractors once mentioned, “Doesn’t know much about hockey, but he is a smart business man.” The first thing he told ID fans was “Niagara should never go through a rebuild”; fans gulped, “Oh oh, I think we have a problem!” Or as some hopefully suggested, “Perhaps, he plans to invest financially and blue print the London Knights hockey model?” Three years later, the answer is NO and DD is still the GM; he still hasn't learned that every OHL team (except London) has to go through a proper rebuild.

His move to IceDog Sunday games, during the NFL season, is curious. IceDogs play Sunday games and they do draw well, but they’ve always been after the NFL season ends. I honestly question if he is aware of that?

The Home Opener this Sunday, instead of Saturday night (Meridian Centre empty) was a business decision? FACT: IceDogs play only 5 Saturday night home games the entire 24-25 season.

Merdian Centre is booked Saturday having a Pow Wow

Sam14 · 2024-10-02T09:57:05-0400

Dogs Enthusiast said:
The restaurants that are open on Sunday afternoon do a pretty good business on game day. We have done that before a Sunday game. So its not all doom and gloom.

The difference in crowd size in local businesses on weekend nights and Sunday afternoon (some were even closed) is massive. Weekends require reservations or arriving early to secure a table. That can’t be debated. Business will be affected by the decision. Now will attendance be affected.

dogs777 · 2024-10-02T09:58:13-0400

Sam14 said:
It will be interesting to see how those games are received. You are an example of one unaffected, ticket sales would tell you many STH were upset by the decision and many have moved their Sunday NFL games to other dates.
However, to be fair, the NFL Sunday attendance numbers this year will ultimately answer the question, good or bad business decision.

The home opener being its first test.

STH numbers I don’t think are because of the change in day to Sunday I’m pretty sure they are down more so because of the play of the team in previous years and the fact that DDD is still around and a lot of previous STH hate the guy personally I think it’s a good idea to move away from the mainly Thursday home games just not sure Sunday was the right day especially during football

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