Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season, Part I

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bigsportsfan

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total attendance is the number of tickets that have been issued for the game. that includes

tickets sold to season-ticket holdrs
tickets sold at the gate
comp tickets tht were given out
sponsor tickets. Usually, ads on boards and such not only have the ad as part of the deal but a set of tickets

In the case of Ottawa and Kingston probably other arenas also it is the number of tickets that the team has to pay the city for.

Back in the day, Earl used to horde comp tickets like they were gold and diamonds from Howard store. Used have to be a fight sometimes to explain why we were giving them out
Your right except here in Niagara, they also count all club seats, all suite seats, all handicapped seats and about 150 standing room spots as sold tickets whether they are sold or not.

It's easy to figure this out. A sell out is 5300. However, not all handicapped seats are sold. Not all club seats and private suite spots are sold. Most of the time they don't even sell standing room spots. If they were really only counting tickets sold, the sell out number would vary.

In the past, the team has put 410 standing room spots for sale when they are in the playoffs. Maybe 100 or 150 of those tickets get sold. People expect the attendance to be announced higher than 5300 but it's not. Its still listed at 5300 because those 100 or 150 tickets were counting as sold whether they were sold or not. It's only when they sell more than 150 standing room tickets that they announce the attendance as above 5300.

Attendance at most OHL games is not as high as most people think.
 
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I don’t think “all fans” thought they’d make the playoffs I bet if that old board was still active the majority would still say no playoffs. As for the teams play 3 games in its honesty better than I expected I thought they’d only manage 2 points from the opening 4 games
You’d be surprised at just how many would begrudgingly agree they’ll make the playoffs. DD made that his coaches mandate this year so it has to happen. The question will be at what cost. A good start will first save Ben’s job 😊 and second keep his finger off the trigger. Trust me on this one, I have it from a reliable source, DD will make whatever trades are required to accomplish the “mandate”. It’s how he measures success. So this start is good news. Just hope it doesn’t go south over the next 20 games.
 
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Whether the team makes the playoffs or not doesn't change the fact that they are badly run. The owner makes bad trades and won't spend the money required to run the team properly. Even a badly run team will have decent seasons now and then.

Look at the draft picks they have over the next 4 years. Being in last place the last 3 seasons you would think they have a well stocked draft cupboard. But they don't. How is that possible? It's because they are badly run.
 
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Haven’t seen Frolov play yet this season, but I’m sure that he could slot in 6-7 on the IceDogs D right now.
Still can’t answer even a single fair question 😂😂. You have zero credibility with IceDog fans on and off this site. It’s hilarious!

There are rule against trolling on hf boards. Still waiting for your answers to these questions. 😂

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Haven’t seen Frolov play yet this season, but I’m sure that he could slot in 6-7 on the IceDogs D right now.
Do your credibility a favour and go back and watch his games and report back
 

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Whether the team makes the playoffs or not doesn't change the fact that they are badly run. The owner makes bad trades and won't spend the money required to run the team properly. Even a badly run team will have decent seasons now and then.

Look at the draft picks they have over the next 4 years. Being in last place the last 3 seasons you would think they have a well stocked draft cupboard. But they don't. How is that possible? It's because they are badly run.
Oh they are really poorly run. It's a shame - because with the core in place, a proper GM could still get this team to contend next year, even with the limited assets.

(It will include wise use of the Import slots next season, as well as trading whoever is taken in the first round at the deadline next year)
 

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Do your credibility a favour and go back and watch his games and report back

I will see Flint vs Erie, Kingston, Oshawa, and the central division teams; then, I will report directly to you how Frolov and Podrekar in depth roles.
 

Sam14

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Your right except here in Niagara, they also count all club seats, all suite seats, all handicapped seats and about 150 standing room spots as sold tickets whether they are sold or not.

It's easy to figure this out. A sell out is 5300. However, not all handicapped seats are sold. Not all club seats and private suite spots are sold. Most of the time they don't even sell standing room spots. If they were really only counting tickets sold, the sell out number would vary.

In the past, the team has put 410 standing room spots for sale when they are in the playoffs. Maybe 100 or 150 of those tickets get sold. People expect the attendance to be announced higher than 5300 but it's not. Its still listed at 5300 because those 100 or 150 tickets were counting as sold whether they were sold or not. It's only when they sell more than 150 standing room tickets that they announce the attendance as above 5300.

Attendance at most OHL games is not as high as most people think.
Thanks for that clarification. I always wondered why some of our playoff games in the past were not announced as more than 5300.

I will see Flint vs Erie, Kingston, Oshawa, and the central division teams; then, I will report directly to you how Frolov and Podrekar in depth roles.
Still not going to answer any of the other questions. So funny!!!
 
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Thanks for that clarification. I always wondered why some of our playoff games in the past were not announced as more than 5300.
Some are announced at more than 5300. Like this one at 5580

 

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There’s no question Niagara has been the most dysfunctional franchise in the league for several years - - almost like they’re being run by a few posters from this site.

But this year they seem to have realized acquiring talented players is important and winning hockey games is a good thing.

Bringing in Loshko from the Q cost them absolutely ZERO and I can’t believe nobody else was in on him.

And then flipping a couple of Euros to Flint so they could acquire Jack Brauti was a brilliant move.

Love Brauti’s game. He’s undersized but he’s such a smooth defenceman. I can’t believe Barrie ever let him go.
 

Mcnotloilersfan

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There’s no question Niagara has been the most dysfunctional franchise in the league for several years - - almost like they’re being run by a few posters from this site.

But this year they seem to have realized acquiring talented players is important and winning hockey games is a good thing.

Bringing in Loshko from the Q cost them absolutely ZERO and I can’t believe nobody else was in on him.

And then flipping a couple of Euros to Flint so they could acquire Jack Brauti was a brilliant move.

Love Brauti’s game. He’s undersized but he’s such a smooth defenceman. I can’t believe Barrie ever let him go.
I imagine other teams put a claim in on Loshko, Niagara just would have been one of the first teams on the list to have the rights.

They only flipped one Euro to Flint. Frolov is a North American player and has more upside than Brauti (my opinion and that of a scout that I talked to).

I like Brauti. But Barrie got a dman that will likely be on Team Canada out of the deal. It's a big upgrade.
 
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Thanks for that clarification. I always wondered why some of our playoff games in the past were not announced as more than 5300.


Still not going to answer any of the other questions. So funny!!!

I just saw the IceDogs coach have Brauti on the ice for about 5 of the final 8 minutes against Oshawa; I think that answers everything you need to know how the coach feels. I also saw the interview of Boudreau praising the team for it’s acquisitions on defence
 

Sam14

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I just saw the IceDogs coach have Brauti on the ice for about 5 of the final 8 minutes against Oshawa; I think that answers everything you need to know how the coach feels. I also saw the interview of Boudreau praising the team for it’s acquisitions on defence

OMG. You're still posting on here and still haven't answered a single question!!! Wow! How much lower can you stoop. That's embarrassing.

Do you need me to repost the questions AGAIN?
 
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Whether the team makes the playoffs or not doesn't change the fact that they are badly run. The owner makes bad trades and won't spend the money required to run the team properly. Even a badly run team will have decent seasons now and then.

Look at the draft picks they have over the next 4 years. Being in last place the last 3 seasons you would think they have a well stocked draft cupboard. But they don't. How is that possible? It's because they are badly run.
This is what they have left in terms of DRAFT CAPITAL (As of Oct 5, 2024)

2025: - , *3, 4, 4, (*conditional 3rd involving Zito?)

2026: 2, 3, 4,

2027: 2, 3, 4, 4

2028: 2, 3, 4,

NOTE: Frolov deal included a 2025 2nd round pick, which will leave Niagara without a 2nd rd 2009.
 

bigsportsfan

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Some are announced at more than 5300. Like this one at 5580

Yes, once they sell about 150 standing room spots they are at 5300 (assuming all the seats are sold out) and if the sell more than 150 standing room tickets, attendance then goes above 5300.
 

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You’d be surprised at just how many would begrudgingly agree they’ll make the playoffs. DD made that his coaches mandate this year so it has to happen. The question will be at what cost. A good start will first save Ben’s job 😊 and second keep his finger off the trigger. Trust me on this one, I have it from a reliable source, DD will make whatever trades are required to accomplish the “mandate”. It’s how he measures success. So this start is good news. Just hope it doesn’t go south over the next 20 games.
Trouble is, first sign the team is in a playoff spot, DDD will announce that it is a "go for it" year and, you guessed it - tinker. He can't resist inserting himself into the equation but lacks the self-awareness that he shouldn't.
 
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This is what they have left in terms of DRAFT CAPITAL (As of Oct 5, 2024)

2025: - , *3, 4, 4, (*conditional 3rd involving Zito?)

2026: 2, 3, 4,

2027: 2, 3, 4, 4

2028: 2, 3, 4,

NOTE: Frolov deal included a 2025 2nd round pick, which will leave Niagara without a 2nd rd 2009.
the reason no one answers is your question is non consequnetial and no matter the answer you will have a bad reason.

Playoff games unless they are an actual sellout are always lower because there are fewer if any cop tickets. Season ticket holders donot necessarily buy them. Walk up due to the weather can also be lower

Are you still saying this is a crap team that will finish last
 
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Sam14

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I’ll be there hopefully they can keep it close and under 6 goals although I’m not counting on it the way Brampton has looked
It’s their home opener, confidence at an all-time high, only their 4th game of the season and Ben does not accept anything but maximum effort from these kids. I’ll be surprised (and disappointed) if they get blown out this afternoon.

#BillsvsTexans
#SeahawksvsGiants
 
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