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My Cozen Dylan said:
I think some people just don't have the drive to be dominant professional athletes. Josh Rosen seems like a prime example - he had all the on-field talent, but he was fairly open that he didn't really view an NFL career as his end-all-be-all dream. Of course, he ended up flaming out.

Obviously this is purely from what we can see from the outside, but Power strikes me as a guy who lacks the fire within.
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Considering how solid he was coming out of Michigan, I have to put a lot of what we’re seeing is poor coaching. I just hope Ruff can un-Granato him who actively coached passive, soft play. Im not asking him to be Pronger but Haven’t seen enough personally from coaching from a carrot-stick aspect. No benching, no press box. Nothing to suggest the accountability enforced
 
JLewyB said:
Considering how solid he was coming out of Michigan, I have to put a lot of what we’re seeing is poor coaching. I just hope Ruff can un-Granato him who actively coached passive, soft play. Im not asking him to be Pronger but Haven’t seen enough personally from coaching from a carrot-stick aspect. No benching, no press box. Nothing to suggest the accountability enforced
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But he wasn't a drastically different player at Michigan. That's the point.
 
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Beerz said:
Byram has the "it" factor. The guy that will go to war with you in playoffs.. do what needs to be done..whether blocking a shot or sticking a cross check in a dudes back.. add in his transition ability, skating and ability to create and I am taking him over Power every day of the week.
I don't think you are going to have to pay him more than 7ish mill a year.

Power will always have his offensive ability but he will always be a defensive train wreck with no battle in him whatsoever.
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That's why I'd love for Vancouver to look at a Power for Pettersson deal. I get it, Vancouver would be in the same spot as Buffalo, having two high end puck movers. But the Vancouver management team seems more old school and might think that can work.
 
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Der Jaeger said:
That's why I'd love for Vancouver to look at a Power for Pettersson deal. I get it, Vancouver would be in the same spot as Buffalo, having two high end puck movers. But the Vancouver management team seems more old school and might think that can work.
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Difference there is they have the defensive partner for him.

Hughes - Hronek
Power - Pettersson

An argument there that it would be the best top-4 in the league.
 
Beerz said:
EP40 scares me. I can't shake it.
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I suspect he's either hurt or has confidence issues based on how things went recently in Vancouver. Both have potential to be fixed (need the team to do the research).
My Cozen Dylan said:
Difference there is they have the defensive partner for him.

Hughes - Hronek
Power - Pettersson

An argument there that it would be the best top-4 in the league.
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Agree. However, they run into the same issue Buffalo does, which is Power on PP2 behind the 1D. Seems like a waste of an asset. But, their top 4 would be amazing.
 
Jim Bob said:
Plan A would be offering Byram a 2 or 3 year deal that is max $6M AAV
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I think this is what we are most likely to see. A three year term walks Byram right into UFA with the chance to land a long term deal, in a location of his choice, after the cap has jumped significantly between now and 2028.

I will be thrilled if they can bring back BB on a 3 year term at $6M or less.
 
To be clear, I do not think Power is a bad hockey player. But I think he needs to be the clear 1D with 1st unit PP time to be effective. He's not getting that in Buffalo with Dahlin. My desire to move Power is simple asset management. If Power is running 45 seconds of a PP unit, and mostly counted on to transition the puck, I think that's a waste of an asset.

I think Power is way better off on a team where he's getting all the top PP time, and the team can build a defensive corps around him to mitigate what he doesn't do well. That's not happening in Buffalo, no matter who Adams acquires as his partner.
 
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Beerz said:
Byram has the "it" factor. The guy that will go to war with you in playoffs.. do what needs to be done..whether blocking a shot or sticking a cross check in a dudes back.. add in his transition ability, skating and ability to create and I am taking him over Power every day of the week.
I don't think you are going to have to pay him more than 7ish mill a year.

Power will always have his offensive ability but he will always be a defensive train wreck with no battle in him whatsoever.
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A bit off topic but give me Sam Bennett. He has exactly what this team needs. Why would he come here? Overpay.
 
My Cozen Dylan said:
I bet it would cost us 7 x $8M to get him here.
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I would offer him 7m x 7 or 8m x 6 thats probably what it takes. He probably signs in Toronto or Boston for 6 million but thats the spot we are in.

Bennett is from Ontario so maybe Buffalo is somewhere he would go?(I know, no one wants to come here)

I do it because he is exactly what this team needs. I will take Bennett and 8m over Mittelstadt at 6m.
 
toddkaz said:
I would offer him 7m x 7 or 8m x 6 thats probably what it takes. He probably signs in Toronto or Boston for 6 million but thats the spot we are in.

Bennett is from Ontario so maybe Buffalo is somewhere he would go?(I know, no one wants to come here)

I do it because he is exactly what this team needs. I will take Bennett and 8m over Mittelstadt at 6m.
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I think he'll get $7M AAV from several contenders. He's the exact type of player that GMs overpay for.
 
toddkaz said:
There is two GMs in every trade. So leaks come come from many people just the GMs. When I say we don't hear anything about Buffalo and you say thats because Buffalo doesn't leak then you are assuming no one else from any other franchise is leaking when they talk. Of course there are leaks.

GM Kevyn has made 1 roster move so far and when Buffalo does get involved it does leak. Like Buffalo interested in EP40, Ehlers, Necas, Chyrchrun, heck sometimes we even here the details involved.

The other GM doesn't have some loyalty to Adams not to leak from their side. The assumption that we don't hear anything out of Buffalo because its tightlipped is ignoring the other possibility its because Adams isn't doing anything.
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Two things on this:
1.) The middle paragraph proves my point. The leaks do not come from Buffalo. The leaks tend to come from a seller trying to drum up value.

2.) Do you honestly believe that Adams isn't doing anything on the trade front right now?


Circling back to point 1. If insiders are not fed information from teams or agents, they will just deduce shit (see Friedman, E). Most of the "rumors" out there don't hold water. There is also no "loyalty" out there but you do need to maintain working relationships. There are only a certain amount of teams and burning a bridge is bad business, so if a GM asks to keep things quiet...
 
Something is wrong when sabres cant get controll of the puck against Carolina . Why arent Kevin noticing they are one of the worst teams in the League . Sabres need to retool making some trades.
 
Going through twitter to look for reports of scouts going to games.

- We scouted Vancouver 2/6 and tonight.

- We scouted LA on 1/22, 2/5, and 2/8.

- Boston scouted us on Tuesday and we are at their game tonight.

- Karmanos attended Utah/CBJ on 2/6.
 
Putting this here because I only care about Buffalo fans’ thoughts and don’t want to deal with main board crap.

Cozens seems to be on the outs. Byram seems kind of the oddman out with Dahlin/Power (plus Samuelsson) all LH and locked up. McLeod is also an RFA - not sure what indications you guys have about his fit or whether he wants to sign long term.

Lafreniere + Schneider (+ balancers if necessary) for Cozens + Byram + McLeod

Schneider is a physical RHD with size and upside. A few months younger than Byram, super physical 6’3 defense first kid. Lafreniere is a year younger than Cozens and has the 1OA pedigree. Rangers fans don’t want to trade him but I think he needs OUT of the big city spotlight and to focus on hockey and not be “on a contender” (though we ain’t this year lmao) where he constantly defers to either Kreider or Zibanejad or Panarin or Trochek or Fox or now Miller. Not as many veterans to do that with in Buffalo, he can play his game more and be one of the main pieces instead of a kid surrounded by vets.

I figure we owe you a prospect or pick to balance things. Not sure you’d be willing to move McLeod so I’d be willing to entertain it as just Laf/Schneider for Cozens/Byram.

Am I way off base?
 
LokiDog said:
Putting this here because I only care about Buffalo fans’ thoughts and don’t want to deal with main board crap.

Cozens seems to be on the outs. Byram seems kind of the oddman out with Dahlin/Power (plus Samuelsson) all LH and locked up. McLeod is also an RFA - not sure what indications you guys have about his fit or whether he wants to sign long term.

Lafreniere + Schneider (+ balancers if necessary) for Cozens + Byram + McLeod

Schneider is a physical RHD with size and upside. A few months younger than Byram, super physical 6’3 defense first kid. Lafreniere is a year younger than Cozens and has the 1OA pedigree. Rangers fans don’t want to trade him but I think he needs OUT of the big city spotlight and to focus on hockey and not be “on a contender” (though we ain’t this year lmao) where he constantly defers to either Kreider or Zibanejad or Panarin or Trochek or Fox or now Miller. Not as many veterans to do that with in Buffalo, he can play his game more and be one of the main pieces instead of a kid surrounded by vets.

I figure we owe you a prospect or pick to balance things. Not sure you’d be willing to move McLeod so I’d be willing to entertain it as just Laf/Schneider for Cozens/Byram.

Am I way off base?
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Not way off base but McLeod would probably be a no.

We can't trade 2 Centers ..we are already thin in that position.


I don't hate it but don't love it either.
 
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Beerz said:
Not way off base but McLeod would probably be a no.

We can't trade 2 Centers ..we are already thin in that position.


I don't hate it but don't love it either.
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I would do Cozens/Byram for Laf/Schneder. HFNYR will crucify me over it. I’d also want to know what realistically it takes to make Schneider for Byram work. Same age. We need LHD, you need RHD.
 
LokiDog said:
I would do Cozens/Byram for Laf/Schneder. HFNYR will crucify me over it. I’d also want to know what realistically it takes to make Schneider for Byram work. Same age. We need LHD, you need RHD.
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It’s interesting but I think I’d pass for two reasons: (1) Schneider’s defensive numbers are BRUTAL. More than fixing handedness, we need a steady defensive guy for the top-4; and (2) this moves two of our best tradable assets and we don’t get a center back.

I don’t think the value is bad, I just don’t think it makes a ton of sense for us.
 
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